Necro Sucks -Proof
I’m sure a wells/heal bunker necro could solo them easily as well. The only mayor difference between guardian and necro bunkers is necros lack stability, which doesn’t play a significant role against these mobs.
I can solo those things fine as a conditionmancer in full Power/Pre/MF gear. Sounds like a user issue.
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He probaly mistaken class skills and player skills …
No probs so far; power crit dmg build …
yup, just tried it as hybrid cond/power spec, not really that bad.
You can kill them with a necro just have to kite use skills well and know the class inside and out.
Guardian you just faceroll and win.
So yes bad game design.
Xomox ~Human Necro/Engineer ET
My Guardian in Full Berserker gear can faceroll vets, my Necro in full Rabbid and Carrion takes forever and has to work so well. But it ain’t the worse try to level a Mesmer…
Yes there is huge imbalances in the game it’s been the case for 5 months so stop hoping.
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Hybrid Necro, one step away from a glass cannon, I can take the vet karka’s down just fine and i’m mostly in Yellows.
Learn2dodge?
Really I think for Necros a conditionmancer is bust, and frankly so is someone who goes pure Power/crit. You need to use all the tools provided, High power to for moderate bursting, condition damage for attrition. Death Shroud for survival and while skills are on cool down.
Tho yes I’ll agree, with a guardian I can wack away with a greatsword blindly chugging a beer and win, but the difference in kill time isn’t far removed from that of a Necro
You can kill them with a necro just have to kite use skills well and know the class inside and out.
Guardian you just faceroll and win.
So yes bad game design.
That’s my point my Guardian just tanks the mob and kills it faster…My not be a necro issue but those are the two classes I play.
Hybrid Necro, one step away from a glass cannon, I can take the vet karka’s down just fine and i’m mostly in Yellows.
Learn2dodge?
Really I think for Necros a conditionmancer is bust, and frankly so is someone who goes pure Power/crit. You need to use all the tools provided, High power to for moderate bursting, condition damage for attrition. Death Shroud for survival and while skills are on cool down.
Tho yes I’ll agree, with a guardian I can wack away with a greatsword blindly chugging a beer and win, but the difference in kill time isn’t far removed from that of a Necro
I must be missing something then because my Guardian with a GS 0/0/30/20/20 I kill those vets so much faster and with no effort at all, just pop my shouts when and as needed and that’s it pretty much.
Necro Build: I use the same build for all forms of PvP but change some traits and utilities -though rarely.
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=;044Z;1kHFG0G4sJkJ0;9;4TT9;036B18A1;6SNH6;2NV05NV051ce
(Above build is by player named Powerr)
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I know what I am doing
The Karkas skill activate which they usually do first is a barrage of what seems to be icicles that deal pretty mean damage, just dodge that… I’ve had no issues what-so-ever and i was killing them in full rare magic find gear.
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I know what I am doing
The Karkas skill activate which they usually do first is a barrage of what seems to be icicles that deal pretty mean damage, just dodge that… I’ve had no issues what-so-ever and i was killing them in full rare magic find gear.
:D
He’s talking about the Veteran Karka, whom imo are actually easier than the Young Karka, but hey… (I always seem to aggro a few of those Young Karka and if you fail to dodge a few of their barrages, the damage quickly adds up).
No need to insult him he is correct Guardian is much easier to play.
Yeah Im sure he can learn how to kill them with a Necro. You will see alot of this kind of talk from elementalist work alot harder for lesser/same results of other classes.
Shame you did not level the Necro up first then any class you played (other then ele) would be faceroll easy.
Its comical how easy/faster my thief is after playing a necro so much…. I keep thinking I should be doing more….nope I just DB like a boss spam one button on my thief everything dies.
Xomox ~Human Necro/Engineer ET
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I don’t know if we are talking about the same mob, this vet ‘Transfers Conditions’ its not like the other vets and is right after that see through wall…In any case I want back again and Guardian is far superior :/
yes some classes are better then others at certain things and some classes are just easier to play well.
get used to it, ITS AN MMO, and its been like that for every MMO since the existence of MMOs.
my power/dagger/CC necro can kitten the face off of guardian bunker builds 1v1 and i can do more AoE damage in WvW, but that guardian will always perform better then me in PvE events. just a fact youll have to deal with instead of whining about.
I have no problems with vet karkas as wellmancer with crit build.
an entire class does’nt suck because one guy cant play the class.
you should try blood/wells build and then tell us its difficult ;-)
I wonder if we yet again confuse difficult and time consuming.
I solo vet karks so easy as a necro. l2p dude.
on top of that, necros are a lot more useful than guards in general.
/wells
Necros have some broken mechanics however they are still a strong class outside of pvp. In pvp their mobility is so bad it makes them a complete liability.
I actually wound up fighting two of these at once, and survived just fine, solo.
Granted, I had already stripped the armor from the first one before accidentally pulling the second. I could have run, but I thought I had it under control… and I did.
10/10/10/20/20 build here. I was still rocking 65-75 gear at the time too…
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Cempa, why did u choose signet mastery when you only have 1 signet on ur utility bar (which you probably won’t activate since you’re soloing)? Better to pick reapers might imo…Otherwise a solid build.
If the game revolves about guardians, warriors, thiefs, elementals and rangers “facerolling” (5 class’ out of eight) then this seems to be the standard. Strictly pve speaking. Aforementioned are also the most popular by design and damage output so it seems necromancers amongst engineers and mesmers are underpowered. They are not simply standard while the other 5 classes are overpowered. No the other 5 classes are standard and necromancers are underpowered.
Not hard to wrap your head around it.
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Necros have some broken mechanics however they are still a strong class outside of pvp. In pvp their mobility is so bad it makes them a complete liability.
I really don’t think this is such a big issue. It is not much of an issue for a bunker necro, which is very strong and has access to the best bunker elite in the game and 3-4 seconds of stability every 10 seconds from speccing into DS.
Even for roamers, necro is not really as movement limited as people often say it is. It really depends on your spec. Conditionmancer is kinda unmobile. Spectral necros have walk, pull, teleport on DS, immobolize. And all necros have extensive access to cripple and/or chill.