After playing necromancer for about a month in pvp and running this build, I am convinced that necromancers, or at least this build, are/is overpowered. Nerf….maybe
That is the best build i have ever seen. Thank you for bringing this spec to the attention of the necromancer community. My life is changed. Necro is now the king of all.
You made me spit my coffee today. Well played OP, good laughs!
Also, that build is simply amazing! Now I’m unkillable with my fantastic Vampiric Rituals, no Consume Conditions and wonderful “two steps foward, one step back to avoid” wells ! Jeez, thanks!
Necromancers really are overpowered guys, and that build is the proof. If you all just want to sit around and trash talk then that is still fine by me. I just thought I should bring this to the attention of the community for all the crap that people give me for playing an overpowered class. Guess I’ll just keep stomping on people if this won’t get nerfed. FYI not sure what hotjoin is but the only pvp I do is solo queue. I’ll see how necros are like in wvw and team queue later.
Necromancers really are overpowered guys, and that build is the proof. If you all just want to sit around and trash talk then that is still fine by me. I just thought I should bring this to the attention of the community for all the crap that people give me for playing an overpowered class. Guess I’ll just keep stomping on people if this won’t get nerfed. FYI not sure what hotjoin is but the only pvp I do is solo queue. I’ll see how necros are like in wvw and team queue later.
Just stop already…
The build you posted was the most idiotic thing to even run in a somewhat competitive scene would that exist…
Any other self-respecting necromancer would run a build that would not only peform twice as good as your build, but would kill yours in a mere couple of seconds…
WoB is absolutely horrible to switch out for instead of CC, and Signet of Locust means giving up a utility slot that could actually damage the opponent… Just these two things make the build completely horrendous in any way…
Siphoning is laughable – even when specced for healing power it does jack kitten – and the worst part, you rely on your freaking wells, which someone with more than half a brain would step out from… People have been wanting to see this viable for years and here you come and say that it is “OP”…
Please, do us a favor and remove yourself from the internet… It is people like you who needlessly get things nerfed “For the greater good” because you lack the skills to even comprehend a class…
FYI not sure what hotjoin is but the only pvp I do is solo queue.
Hotjoin is when you go to the “Game Browser” and click “Play Now”.
Solo queue is when you go to “Arenas” and click “Join” on the left where it says Solo-Arena. If you do that for a couple of games you’ll be ranked on the ladder.
I can’t find your account anywhere on the leaderboard, ergo: you’ve been playing hotjoins all this time.
As to your build, perhaps you’d care to elaborate on what makes this build so op…?
Whoa there Googlebrandon, I think you need to eat a snickers. As for Flow, I just searched up my account and I am on the leaderboards, so maybe you put in a typo? I think the confusion on the build comes from people thinking it’s the wells that do the damage; rather, the wells are just there for survival, and the effects of them are just a bonus. You basically just juggle between going in and out of death shroud, and when you are out of death shroud you are extremely tanky and still do good damage. Your life force will recharge quickly, so then it’s back to death shroud. Death shroud damage is insane, and don’t even get me started on how ridiculous lich form is. In conclusion, your just a tank with good damage. Boring to play, so I mainly play engineer, but really powerful. 2vs1 is easy. 1vs1 is even easier, but a good thief can be annoying. Still, everyone could be right and necromancers or this build is garbage, and people in solo arena just plain suck. Also, the 3rd utility slot is optional btw, locust doesn’t need to be there.
Iam sry m8, but if u not trolling u dont know much about builds, Necs or the game itself and looking over your build I see u dont trait for any Condi removal, u dont use Well of power, or Plague Signet, or Offhand Dagger and u dont even use Consume as Heal. Iam sry but this OP tank-burst-Well build would be eaten alive by ANY decent Condi player out there
and dont come to me and say Putrid Mark is gonna save u… just laughing hard at this build and thread.
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OP is ranked. Honestly though OP, at your ranking your build might work, that does not mean it is OP. If your build was so OP that Necros need nerfs then you would be in the top 100 with how many games you’ve played.
According to the pie chart, the class I play most is engineer, and I also play mesmer cause I’m trying to figure that class out. Like I said, it’s boring playing some op class all the time. Challenge accepted though, starting now I will only play my necro and make it high on the leaderboards to prove my point. I also want to say that if there is no condi removal then you can always add the skill for it. It’s not like the skills listed are set in stone, you are encouraged to play around with it. Just make sure that you have at least 2 wells. I have tried the build using only 2 wells, and it is still tanky and hits like a truck. The only thing you shouldn’t change are the traits; however, the first two soul reaping and first blood magic traits can be changed. Also, the soul reaping line can be replaced with power, but I do not recommend this.
You made an idiotic claim based on the level of PvP you are playing… You are disregarding experience of Necromancers with well over thousands of matches, while you randomly stroll along, come up with some horrendous build that somehow works for you, disregarding everything saying that the community is wrong, that Necromancers are OP and need a nerf…
This is why I seem to be angry… You base everything, and I mean everything on your experience, and since I have recently been there (as in a year ago), I know that almost anything can work on your level… Ever dueled a top player with this build and easymoded him? Didn’t think so…
Your traits, utilities, weaponset and mindset are horrible… Stop being so stubborn and listen to those who have freaking mastered the class before you start spouting more nonsense… Again, it is people like you who get things nerfed needlessly…
Why are you still posting? I have already stated that I am now only going to play necro in solo arena and try to reach a high ranking in the leaderboards to prove my point. In fact, I just brought myself up to the 85 percentile from 84 and my win rate to 50 from 48, and I’m hoping it will gradually increase. Good afternoon sir.
Because of your freaking attitude…
Now mine is not great at the moment, and I make myself seem completely out of character, or even as an kitten, but the fact that you were never getting back on your words and refused to even listen to those with over 5 times the experience over you in this class angers me greatly…
Should I play my Ranger for 5 rounds with a double Bearbow build and say that they are OP? Because I can kill unexpected foes with it? Despite any sane Ranger knowing that it is absolutely inviable?
Undo your claims… you might just see a different, and way more helpfull side from me…
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SoloQ builds prove jack kitten as well by the way… Look at my channel and watch the one SoloQ Necromancer video… Never would I ever run it in any form of a higher ranked TPvP game, for very good reasons, yet I peformed reasonably well with it regardless…
Want to make your build seem OP? Show a high-ranked Team battle, with noteworthy names while you do not even play your utmost best to stomp those… Outplay people not by being smarter but by having a superior build – only then will I get back on my words… Quite frankly son, good luck with that…
Currently raised my solo arena ranking to the 89th percentile, starting from 84th percentile when I created this topic. Win rate is now 50.78%, and the increases have been from playing necromancer. Sorry GoogleBrandon, but I’m not going back on my word. A little background info on me is that I got my B.S. in the natural sciences, so I am not going to back down on my idea until I am shown otherwise; furthermore, just because there are necromancers with more “experience” means nothing to me. So far, playing this necromancer build is causing me to rise up the rankings, so I will stick with my assumption that necromancers are op.
Currently raised my solo arena ranking to the 89th percentile, starting from 84th percentile when I created this topic. Win rate is now 50.78%, and the increases have been from playing necromancer. Sorry GoogleBrandon, but I’m not going back on my word. A little background info on me is that I got my B.S. in the natural sciences, so I am not going to back down on my idea until I am shown otherwise; furthermore, just because there are necromancers with more “experience” means nothing to me. So far, playing this necromancer build is causing me to rise up the rankings, so I will stick with my assumption that necromancers are op.
I’m glad you’re finding success with the necromancer, but nothing about the stats you’re posting is showing that necro is OP. Until you – and many other necros – are rocking top 100 in teamQ, you really can’t even begin to seriously imply that necro is OP.
Necro can be completely overwhelming against bad players but the higher you go the less that happens.
You are correct Roe, that’s why I’m trying to get up the solo ladder. I will do team arena later, although it is tempting to do it now because my stats on there are pretty much clean. As for my win/loss in solo arena, this is due to jumping straight into ranked matches; I think I have only played three hotjoin games. I have been playing ranked for testing builds, trying classes, etc. Sadly, this makes the process of rising up the ladder more difficult. A great thing that I have learned so far is that since this build is powerful, at least in the ranking I’m at, it’s easy to coordinate with my team members on where I want them to go since I am fully aware of my capabilities. Something I can say so far is that playing necromancer is an easy way to get you out of the percentile system and into the actual leaderboards.
lol I’ll do it eventually…could be later today even. I’m taking a break from the pvp at the moment; it sure is exhausting. This is my first time actually being involved with the GW2 community on the forums, and it’s shocking at how many insults people throw at each other, and how people are easily angered over this. Lol, but I was the same way when I was a teen gamer. Oh, and just let this topic die now. Like I said, I’m working on getting up the ladder. I will post again once I’m up there.
Something I can say so far is that playing necromancer is an easy way to get you out of the percentile system and into the actual leaderboards.
Any class can get you into the top 1k easily.
What you will realize though when you’re higher up the food chain is that some classes can carry a team a lot better than necros.
At a certain point your ranking will mostly be determined by how lucky you are to be placed in the better team rather than how good you are individually. If all of your allies are worse than your opponents you stand no chance at winning even if you’re the best player in the match. However, some players can compensate for their team’s shortcomings to some extent. For example, a team immensly profits from safe rezzing or stomping. Or the ability to tank on a point for a long time against more than one opponent. Or having enough mobility to quickly decap points or steal secondary map objectives.
These are just a few things that can be done a lot better by classes other than the necro. So if your team makes mistakes you’re much less likely to somehow make up for them with a necro than for example a thief who would be able to neutralise side points in a short amount of time. It’s not an argument against the viability of necros, but it means that other classes can exploit an opposing team’s weakness more easily.
Currently raised my solo arena ranking to the 89th percentile, starting from 84th percentile when I created this topic. Win rate is now 50.78%, and the increases have been from playing necromancer. Sorry GoogleBrandon, but I’m not going back on my word. A little background info on me is that I got my B.S. in the natural sciences, so I am not going to back down on my idea until I am shown otherwise; furthermore, just because there are necromancers with more “experience” means nothing to me. So far, playing this necromancer build is causing me to rise up the rankings, so I will stick with my assumption that necromancers are op.
And I am the president of Finland telling you wrong… Honestly, what the frig has a grade to do with anything in an online game?
Also, in my early PvP games I have been playing nothing but mesmer and owned people with it – this stopped however reaching a certain level, as the people you face are significantly better and counter you way more easily since they have the experience to do so… Mesmers are by default not OP since they have glaring weaknesses which can be exploited greatly…
You have proven again jack kitten – I once more ask you to get footage of you finding a team, get those in the Mistpedia weekly tournaments (no ranking involved) and I want you to completely decimate everyone with your build rather than your play…
But why am I bothering right? Nerf siphons, soooo OP, and every necro with over 2000 games on their names is wrong because you say so… Your attitude gets worse with the increasing amount of posts….
About carrying. It’s impossible to do on a necro. The opponents will catch on too soon and then you can count on a constant focus x2 everywhere you go.. since your team is dead at mid
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This build doesn’t look like it is particularly good at anything… Why would you use a build that isn’t good at anything, and then post it on forums as op?
This build doesn’t look like it is particularly good at anything… Why would you use a build that isn’t good at anything, and then post it on forums as op?
You know that’s a good question and based on what I’ve gathered so far, the OP mains an engie. I’m guessing that his intent was to alarm the devs and have them immediately nerf his main’s counter class so that the game will be easier for him.
This build doesn’t look like it is particularly good at anything… Why would you use a build that isn’t good at anything, and then post it on forums as op?
You know that’s a good question and based on what I’ve gathered so far, the OP mains an engie. I’m guessing that his intent was to alarm the devs and have them immediately nerf his main’s counter class so that the game will be easier for him.
That’s probably the best assessment. He probably should have gone with a fear build for that, I’ve heard the most “noob” and “cheese” comments from people regarding that build.
Currently raised my solo arena ranking to the 89th percentile, starting from 84th percentile when I created this topic. Win rate is now 50.78%, and the increases have been from playing necromancer. Sorry GoogleBrandon, but I’m not going back on my word. A little background info on me is that I got my B.S. in the natural sciences, so I am not going to back down on my idea until I am shown otherwise; furthermore, just because there are necromancers with more “experience” means nothing to me. So far, playing this necromancer build is causing me to rise up the rankings, so I will stick with my assumption that necromancers are op.
You should give your B.S. back. Your claims are non scientific for your experiment doesn’t offer data to support or disprove your claim. What you have done is throwing out a theory without proper theoretical and experimental background. Atm. you are not even testing a proper hypothesis.
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Chronomancy works, I am proof of it. Now stop asking me questions. Time must be preserved!
The tests were making it high on the leaderboards for solo arena, team arena, and WvW. Did you even bother reading the posts? Why are people still posting on here? I honestly thought GoogleBrandon’s rant was going to be the final post, so I didn’t give him a reply. To anyone who is looking at this topic: Please read all the posts before posting a reply. Yesterday, I already decided that the only way to convince people was to show them by rising up the ladder. This topic should have died once that was stated.
The tests were making it high on the leaderboards for solo arena, team arena, and WvW. Did you even bother reading the posts? Why are people still posting on here? I honestly thought GoogleBrandon’s rant was going to be the final post, so I didn’t give him a reply. To anyone who is looking at this topic: Please read all the posts before posting a reply. Yesterday, I already decided that the only way to convince people was to show them by rising up the ladder. This topic should have died once that was stated.
Rising up the leaderboards doesn’t equal OP, which is your biggest problem here.
The tests were making it high on the leaderboards for solo arena, team arena, and WvW. Did you even bother reading the posts? Why are people still posting on here? I honestly thought GoogleBrandon’s rant was going to be the final post, so I didn’t give him a reply. To anyone who is looking at this topic: Please read all the posts before posting a reply. Yesterday, I already decided that the only way to convince people was to show them by rising up the ladder. This topic should have died once that was stated.
Rising up the latter says nothing for your individual skill or build. The better TEAM will win. Post some videos.
Hope this will be the final post. Yes Roe you are correct. Even if I make it high on the leaderboards playing only as a necro, other players will have to do the same thing and give their assessment on it. Hell tbh, all that it will really show is that I’m a skilled player. One final thing, I think everyone could learn something from Roe ( I’m looking at you GoogleBrandon). He/she disagreed with what I was saying, yet had useful stuff to say and avoided any needless name calling; that’s how you properly argue, and I am more willing to listen to him/her because of that. Something I forgot to mention, the only reason I haven’t backed down is that out of all the replies I read, nobody even bothered to give the build a try (I think it was only just one other person).
You didn’t even know the difference between hotjoins and soloq. You posted an awful build rocking signet of the locust and we’ll of blood and then told someone to go eat a snickers. You then proceeded to tell us you managed to get a degree so you know what your talking about.
Roe just happens to be nice and slightly more tolerant than some of us. Bet he still knows most of us are right. And the negative comments you receive at the begging weren’t really meant to be negative. The build is so kittening awful alot of us literally thought you were trolling.
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Telling someone to eat a snickers was my retaliation to Googlebrandon insulting me. Besides, it is just another way for me to tell someone to calm down. I never stated that “I have a degree, so I know what I’m talking about.” I mentioned that to show GoogleBrandon why I’m not going back on my word until more people show me that necromancers are not as op as I think. Read that post again and probably the true meaning behind it will become more clear to you. Roe does know that most of you are right, that’s why I said that he disagrees with me.
I mentioned that to show GoogleBrandon why I’m not going back on my word until more people show me that necromancers are not as op as I think.
Usually the one who makes a claim has the burden of proof.
All the info you provided so far is:
1. you’ve been playing necro for a month.
2. you’re convinced necro is op
3. and therefore the class should be nerfed… maybe.
You didn’t say what exactly is op about the class or your build specifically.
You didn’t elaborate on what you think deserves to be nerfed. The damage? The survivability? A certain trait? A weapon?
I agree that some people here seem to have a short fuse, but are you really surprised by the general reaction when you post something that sounds like “I’m almost new to the class, but nerf cuz op! kthxbye”.
@everyone who thinks there’s a secret engi agenda that could actually cause a nerf:
lol. Like any anet dev would go to a profession subforum, read what at first appears to be the one millionth whine-thread whithout any explanation as to why and how, followed up with a build that no one has ever seen before in a high skill environment, and then conclude: Yup… I can totally see it now, the necro needs a giant nerf-slap!
