Guild Wars 2

Hi guys!

I’m in a need of a little help or suggestions.

I have played necromancer for a while now and i’m still struggling with capable build.
I have played GW2 for like 3 months now.

I try to build good condi build, or build that can handle outnumbered fights, because i seem to head outnumbered encounters continuously.

I have spent hours in build editor and searching from metabattle for some solutions.

So far i only can take a beating and some random successes. In PvP, it isn’t that unusual that i get my kitten kicked in 1v3 sometimes even 1v4. I think myself as a decent player at least, but can’t really handle groups right now.

My build:

- Carrion Amulet and Carrion stats in gears, accessories, weapons etc
- Scepter / focus + Staff
- Specialization: Death magic / Soul Reaping / Curses
- Rune: Adventurer (Condi DMG + Power)
- Weapon sigils: Bursting (condi dmg) + Corruption (condi dmg stack)
- Utilities: Well skills and spectral armor

I have a build link here if you want to see:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vRAQNArdWjk0QNNWbDu0A/NOCGK6SsFNRMpDgGQuCfQ6C-TJxCABPt/gWlBO+JAAwpAAA

First question
Need help in rotationing skills:

Usually i try to start with staff and cast fear, skill 3 (chill aoe) skill 2 (mark of blood) and then skill 4 (transfer condis)

Then with scepter, Cripple skill and feast of corruption while hitting basic attack.

Any tips?

Question 2

I find necro skill casting really really slow. How can i cast AoE skills against enemies, when it takes imo too much time to cast. Especially staff.
Cast all AoE skills on my location?

Question 3

Does it come to extreme precision with cast times, when multicasting aoe skills?

Question 4

How much PvP best / top necro players play? So far i have like 50 games played.

Now i know that i need to L2P, and i’m doing it everyday. I try to analyze every encounter, what could have done otherwise and what went well.

I just need some advice from more experienced players.

Not gonna say anything special about the build, even if I would change a few things, its pretty decent. Just gonna say that I would change the wells, they arent that great on a condi build, and even less when not traited and easily dodged unless you use them on a place where the enemy is forced to be, which is really situational (PvP/roam).

You’re right when you think that necro has really slow casts, you need to learn to play around this. Talking about staff cast, you need to use the marks guessing where the enemy is going to be, or eventually using them on your location when facing melee enemies, but be aware of not placing them so just a dodge can evade them all. I think practicing is the best way to feel comfortable with cast times and succesful casts. I’m not sure about what do you mean with your last question, but I guess you can consider yourself an acknowledged necro/whatever after ~1k games played with it.

Rotation wise, I would save staff 4/5 most of the times, but I guess you can use it as an opener if you feel like you will not need them anytime soon.

EDIT: Stack sigils (sigil of corruption) are redundant, meaning that if you have it on a weapon the charges will affect the other weapon and so its unnecessary to use two, just make sure to kill (stomp, not just down) the foe with the weapon that has the sigil.

Thank you for your answer.

I have considered changing well skills to marks skills that steals health and other would give some condi dmg.

Why aren’t you using reaper? I assume you have HoT if you bought the game 3 months ago. The traits and shouts are pretty good in PvP.

If you’re using staff, you should consider trying Soul Marks from the Soul Reaping line. It’ll help build your life force and bypass those pesky blocking guards/revs.

Dont use those sigils. Bursting is negligable damage in pvp and corruption stacks only really add up in games youre already stomping in.

Use a combination of geomancy, doom, and frailty. Since you arent using reaper that removes the viability of hydromancy and ice sigils. On swap sigils are great because they activate when entering and leaving death shroud.

Also, focus is a terrible pvp weapon. Use warhorn for the mobility and unblockable interrupt (breaks rev shield, interrupt heals, interrupt ele overloads). If you dont like warhorn at least take dagger offhand for condi xfer and aoe weakness.

onevstheworld.2419:

Why aren’t you using reaper? I assume you have HoT if you bought the game 3 months ago. The traits and shouts are pretty good in PvP.

If you’re using staff, you should consider trying Soul Marks from the Soul Reaping line. It’ll help build your life force and bypass those pesky blocking guards/revs.

I don’t have all hero points in reaper yet, so haven’t really learned to play with reaper elsewhere.

Am i losing compatibility too much, if i’m not reaper?

Thor Rising.7850:

Dont use those sigils. Bursting is negligable damage in pvp and corruption stacks only really add up in games youre already stomping in.

Use a combination of geomancy, doom, and frailty. Since you arent using reaper that removes the viability of hydromancy and ice sigils. On swap sigils are great because they activate when entering and leaving death shroud.

Also, focus is a terrible pvp weapon. Use warhorn for the mobility and unblockable interrupt (breaks rev shield, interrupt heals, interrupt ele overloads). If you dont like warhorn at least take dagger offhand for condi xfer and aoe weakness.

That’s nice to know, that shroud activates on swaps.
Hmm, okay, will check better off-hand weapon!

Thank you for tips!

Ikihiki.2316:

I don’t have all hero points in reaper yet, so haven’t really learned to play with reaper elsewhere.

Am i losing compatibility too much, if i’m not reaper?

Personally, I do think you are short changing yourself by not using reaper. It’s the reason there are so many necros in PvP.

As condi reaper, you’d still be using staff + scepter/X, but your F1 changes into a melee shroud instead of ranged, which does take a bit of getting used to. Trait-wise, Deathly Chill is one of the best… it makes chill cause damage in addition to it’s usual slow + skill recharge slowing effects. And reapers get lots of chills.

onevstheworld.2419:

Ikihiki.2316:

I don’t have all hero points in reaper yet, so haven’t really learned to play with reaper elsewhere.

Am i losing compatibility too much, if i’m not reaper?

Personally, I do think you are short changing yourself by not using reaper. It’s the reason there are so many necros in PvP.

As condi reaper, you’d still be using staff + scepter/X, but your F1 changes into a melee shroud instead of ranged, which does take a bit of getting used to. Trait-wise, Deathly Chill is one of the best… it makes chill cause damage in addition to it’s usual slow + skill recharge slowing effects. And reapers get lots of chills.

Which traitline would you have him trade out for reaper?

bearshaman.3421:

onevstheworld.2419:

Ikihiki.2316:

I don’t have all hero points in reaper yet, so haven’t really learned to play with reaper elsewhere.

Am i losing compatibility too much, if i’m not reaper?

Personally, I do think you are short changing yourself by not using reaper. It’s the reason there are so many necros in PvP.

As condi reaper, you’d still be using staff + scepter/X, but your F1 changes into a melee shroud instead of ranged, which does take a bit of getting used to. Trait-wise, Deathly Chill is one of the best… it makes chill cause damage in addition to it’s usual slow + skill recharge slowing effects. And reapers get lots of chills.

Which traitline would you have him trade out for reaper?

Death Magic easily.

Zero Solstice.9754:

bearshaman.3421:

onevstheworld.2419:

Ikihiki.2316:

I don’t have all hero points in reaper yet, so haven’t really learned to play with reaper elsewhere.

Am i losing compatibility too much, if i’m not reaper?

Personally, I do think you are short changing yourself by not using reaper. It’s the reason there are so many necros in PvP.

As condi reaper, you’d still be using staff + scepter/X, but your F1 changes into a melee shroud instead of ranged, which does take a bit of getting used to. Trait-wise, Deathly Chill is one of the best… it makes chill cause damage in addition to it’s usual slow + skill recharge slowing effects. And reapers get lots of chills.

Which traitline would you have him trade out for reaper?

Death Magic easily.

Yeah that would be an overall improvement on this particular build.

bearshaman.3421:

Zero Solstice.9754:

bearshaman.3421:

onevstheworld.2419:

Ikihiki.2316:

I don’t have all hero points in reaper yet, so haven’t really learned to play with reaper elsewhere.

Am i losing compatibility too much, if i’m not reaper?

Personally, I do think you are short changing yourself by not using reaper. It’s the reason there are so many necros in PvP.

As condi reaper, you’d still be using staff + scepter/X, but your F1 changes into a melee shroud instead of ranged, which does take a bit of getting used to. Trait-wise, Deathly Chill is one of the best… it makes chill cause damage in addition to it’s usual slow + skill recharge slowing effects. And reapers get lots of chills.

Which traitline would you have him trade out for reaper?

Death Magic easily.

Yeah that would be an overall improvement on this particular build.

My thoughts exactly