Guild Wars 2

i’ve been exclusively playing Elementalist, Assassin, and Neecromancer in GW1, and these are the 3 most favorite classes for me.

since GW2 shifted things a little this is no longer the case, but the classes are still inspired by GW1, so i wanted to know, How does GW2 Necro feel compared to GW1 necro?, is it still possible to go all out lifesteal builds or builds similar to “hex” builds in GW1?, Assuming all the above is false, is it worth it to roll a Necro?

If you want an experience like GW1 Necro, you would get it better from Mesmer. (Sounds a bit crazy right?) Mesmer clones and phantasms are much closer to the minions of GW1 and also actually useful unlike the Necromancer minions, the minion AI is horrible and they really dont have much of an impact.

Hexes are gone and pretty much all that Necro anti-melee and Mesmer anti-caster hexing were smashed together and into Confusion, to which Necromancers have ZERO access besides Spectral Wall+Staff auto (The magnificent 20% physical projectile finisher chance).

Lifestealing or Siphoning as it is now called is not viable for Necromancers at all. The amount you siphon per attack is 29 and can be increased to something above 30 with a trait. Oh and in order to get the siphon you need to spend 15 points to a single Traitline.

Necromancers arent even the best at conditions, all Necromancers have that others cant do is Epidemic and lolmasterdsandyoullbefine.

Swadow.6213:

If you want an experience like GW1 Necro, you would get it better from Mesmer. (Sounds a bit crazy right?) Mesmer clones and phantasms are much closer to the minions of GW1 and also actually useful unlike the Necromancer minions, the minion AI is horrible and they really dont have much of an impact.

Hexes are gone and pretty much all that Necro anti-melee and Mesmer anti-caster hexing were smashed together and into Confusion, to which Necromancers have ZERO access besides Spectral Wall+Staff auto (The magnificent 20% physical projectile finisher chance).

Lifestealing or Siphoning as it is now called is not viable for Necromancers at all. The amount you siphon per attack is 29 and can be increased to something above 30 with a trait. Oh and in order to get the siphon you need to spend 15 points to a single Traitline.

Necromancers arent even the best at conditions, all Necromancers have that others cant do is Epidemic and lolmasterdsandyoullbefine.

my main is actually a mesmer, but it doesn’t feel much like a GW1 necro.
in theory it may be, but in actuality it’s nowhere near.

No. I wouldn’t waste your time. I got turned down for a FotM group last night because “Necros can’t do damage”. That dungeon is already hard enough to get groups for without people feeling like necromancers are handicapped. Its actually not the first time I’ve been turned down for groups based on that fact.

Dude. In a word. No. I hate saying it. And I’m pissed that I am saying it. But no.

If its worth it is really up to your play style. I am pretty unhappy with the class. To me its really dull and there is not many fun skills or weapon choices I can say that I am wow over.

I started an elementalist yesterday and I am actually having fun. So many cool skills with sparkles that I find entertaining.

Dont do it chose something else.

RapidSausage.4620:

i’ve been exclusively playing Elementalist, Assassin, and Neecromancer in GW1, and these are the 3 most favorite classes for me.

since GW2 shifted things a little this is no longer the case, but the classes are still inspired by GW1, so i wanted to know, How does GW2 Necro feel compared to GW1 necro?, is it still possible to go all out lifesteal builds or builds similar to “hex” builds in GW1?, Assuming all the above is false, is it worth it to roll a Necro?

I am using a build that focuses heavily on life stealing and i am quite happy with it.
Actually, that was what drew me to the Necromancer here in GW2 in the first place.

life stealing or life siphoning? Big difference there. I can see the latter being part of a DS type build, which is sorta ok kinda, but a life siphoning build is kitten crap. If it ‘works’ for you, well, I’m jealous. I kinda wish I was that stupid but happy go lucky person again.

I see, instead of asking me how i do it you simply try to insult my intelligence and
imply i don’t realize i am completely worthless to my groups.

What did you do in order to come to your conclusion in this matter?
Theorycrafting? Did you at least try it ingame with gear and traits you found
appropiate?

Dulon.9347:

I see, instead of asking me how i do it you simply try to insult my intelligence and
imply i don’t realize i am completely worthless to my groups.

What did you do in order to come to your conclusion in this matter?
Theorycrafting? Did you at least try it ingame with gear and traits you found
appropiate?

Life stealing in this game, for this class is hella bad. Period. He is right.

necro is most fun to play class in the game for me everything else seems so boring to me after I tried necro.

I like the necro playstyle more than any other class. So, if it fits for you, wear it. Otherwise, you won’t want to put up with the bugs and class weaknesses.

After the shortbow nerf debacle with the Ranger, I rolled a Necro and have never looked back. You could make the point that I went from the worst to the second worst profession, and you may be right. However, the Necro is a lot of fun to play, and at the end of the day thats all that really matters. The biggest caveat is if you expected to play a minion master. In my experence Necro minions are absolutely worthless. The minion AI is so terrible that I am actually embarrassed for ANET. I know this is subjective, but they are also ugly. Aesthetically speaking, they just dont belong in this otherwise beautiful game. I play a power build and enjoy it a great deal. Despite what you may hear its viable in SPVP and PVE. You will kill slower but you have great survivability and a ton of support options. Bottom line is, its a fun profession despite the bugs and with just the minimum of support from ANET it could be one of the strongest professions in game. Try it out you might find you really enjoyed it as I did, and like all MMOs sometimes it better to be on the cusp of greatness waiting for improvement than overpowered waiting on a nerf.

Roll a warrior. it does a better job than us powermancers.
Roll a mesmer. It bleeds better than our conditionmancers and causes headaches. plus it has portal, time warp, and awesome phantasms that can perform nasty favors on your character and all your friends.

Sheobix.8796:

Roll a warrior. it does a better job than us powermancers.
Roll a mesmer. It bleeds better than our conditionmancers and causes headaches. plus it has portal, time warp, and awesome phantasms that can perform nasty favors on your character and all your friends.

I tried the mesmer and the first thing I noticed different was how cool the staff would bounce back to me and give me boons. The necro on the other hand would fly pass my target and kill squirrels out of trees.

Sheobix.8796:

I tried the mesmer and the first thing I noticed different was how cool the staff would bounce back to me and give me boons. The necro on the other hand would fly pass my target and kill squirrels out of trees.

That’s called Piercing, and it’s a good thing. I use it routinely now. (Necro’s Focus #4 sends out a scythe that bounces, harming enemies and aiding friendlies.)

Alkaline.2809:

Sheobix.8796:

Roll a warrior. it does a better job than us powermancers.
Roll a mesmer. It bleeds better than our conditionmancers and causes headaches. plus it has portal, time warp, and awesome phantasms that can perform nasty favors on your character and all your friends.

I tried the mesmer and the first thing I noticed different was how cool the staff would bounce back to me and give me boons. The necro on the other hand would fly pass my target and kill squirrels out of trees.

Those squirrels had it in for you.

If you want something like the GW1 Necro play a Mesmer. Yes, he doesn’t feel exactly the same as the GW1 Necro, but he’s much closer to it than the GW2 Necro.

Lately I really started to dislike my Necro, mostly because I was doing a lot of FotM runs. Necros can’t do anything right, you don’t have much defensive skills, you have almost no escape skills, you don’t do much damage and you can’t take as much punishment as Guardians or Warriors although those professions out-support or out-damage you. No matter which build you are using, your damage and killspeed is pathetic and your rather high base HP pool isn’t worth much when bosses just through Agnoy at you and ignore it.

Last but not least, since Minions are useless and very stupid there is nothing special about the Necro at all. There is no role in this game you would pick a Necro for.

For some time the Necro is really fun, but in order to pull something off you have to work way harder than with any other profession but this isn’t rewarded with better performance.

I find it amusing that many Necromancers are recommending rolling Mesmers instead; while on the opposite end, Mesmers are angry over a recent damage nerf and no longer want to play Mesmers.

Mesmer damage got nerfed, no doubt, but since I play both I know that they still deal more damage than Necros and have even better survivability.

On the other side: Every profession is underpowered compared to Warriors and Guardians.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/necromancer/On-necros-being-broken/first#post856843