how do you beat a mesmer?....

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Posted by: Ozzy Toxin.3074

Ozzy Toxin.3074

as a power necro

this one class I just cant seem to win against I have played one to lvl 80 and know just how bs and unfair they are I know exactly what the Mesmer is doing. I can even guess what exact skill setup they will have, but for the life of me I just cant beat them.

I find one immob it with dagger it just goes invis pops a clone and teleports so I cant find them…… finally when that wears off after 2 phantasms and another dodge clone and I find them, try hitting them and get stun stun knockback for doing so then if I find them again. pop clone .. I hit the clone try disengage clone(hard to do with only a single target non cleave weapon) and hit the Mesmer underneath when I finally do *oh look they can invis again because its off cool down… and the cycle goes round and round and round until I die…. I dono what moron gave them stealth but spawning a phantasm to attack me should reveal them at least kitten -.- especially when they use mass invis.

also how can they give chaos shield to a clone and remove it from themselves!@! I cant figure out how to do it on my Mesmer =s

point of this thread.. tips would be awesome without resorting to one trick ponies like terror mancer (who dies horribly to anything with stability..) or minion master.. bleah

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Posted by: Bo Van Swill.7619

Bo Van Swill.7619

As a mesmer main i can tell you that the best way to win is condition’s we mesmers find it hard to clear conditions and well necros find it easy to to apply them.

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Posted by: Ozzy Toxin.3074

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As a mesmer main i can tell you that the best way to win is condition’s we mesmers find it hard to clear conditions and well necros find it easy to to apply them.

yeah…. only option there is terrormancer but then im even easier to kill due to horrific lf generation once my corrupt boon is gone =\

thanks for the advice anyway

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Posted by: Sors Immani.8429

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Whenever I play power, against a mesmer that acts like the ones you’re describing, I’ll AoE the area (staff marks) and look for the one thats behaving erratically. Having everything except player names turned off & calling the player as target helps a bit, too.

When they invis, hop into DS and hit skills 4/5. When they reappear, DS 3 then flesh golem charge. Once knocked down, you can blast away with staff, re-enter DS & DS 2 to their location. As power, the condis may not do much damage, but the opponent doesn’t know that. They’ll probably panic & shift their focus to getting out of the bleed/poison/chill/fear they now have. At your target, drop enfeebling blood & dagger down.

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Posted by: Sandrox.9524

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They give chaos armor to clone when the clone is in middle of a chaos strom/null field or timewrap and the mesmer using combo finsiher→leap.(e.g phase retreat,ileap).

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Posted by: Waffler.1257

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point of this thread.. tips would be awesome without resorting to one trick ponies like terror mancer (who dies horribly to anything with stability..)

wot? players who use stability just make it easier for terror-mancers to fear chain them.

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Posted by: alamore.1974

alamore.1974

Control t on mesmer, the ganna run so drop.dagger and pull out Axe or staff,

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Posted by: Ozzy Toxin.3074

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if only stealth did not drop targets….. and clones act as meat shields it does work to a degree if I manage to face rub against them for long enough

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Posted by: Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046

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set up some clone counters `between you and the mesmer.. iow if on staff drop your wells to create a “save zone” where you can retreat and draw the clones into.
don’t use your dodges for one clone make sure they start following you (iow wait for the mesmer to shatter them) after the shatter cast, kite the clones and dodge. Or if you have your transfers ready eat the shatter in DS (with retal on trait) and transfer trough dagger #4 of staff #4. DS siphon also solves the problem of clones. As soon as you have the major clones/phantasm down immobilize and spam the kitten out of everything you can get your hands on. (usually dagger #1 after transfer immobilize) forcing the mesmer to use blink/stealth.. wait a bit on point and expect a phantasm to appear. dodge and ignore it while focusing on the mesmer again. he should be dying by now and a couple hit should finish him/her. if you have golem equipped charge it immediately when the mesmer pops stealth for a nice interrupt.

DS torment and siphon are some nice tools to kite clones.

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Posted by: Ozzy Toxin.3074

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set up some clone counters `between you and the mesmer.. iow if on staff drop your wells to create a “save zone” where you can retreat and draw the clones into.
don’t use your dodges for one clone make sure they start following you (iow wait for the mesmer to shatter them) after the shatter cast, kite the clones and dodge. Or if you have your transfers ready eat the shatter in DS (with retal on trait) and transfer trough dagger #4 of staff #4. DS siphon also solves the problem of clones. As soon as you have the major clones/phantasm down immobilize and spam the kitten out of everything you can get your hands on. (usually dagger #1 after transfer immobilize) forcing the mesmer to use blink/stealth.. wait a bit on point and expect a phantasm to appear. dodge and ignore it while focusing on the mesmer again. he should be dying by now and a couple hit should finish him/her. if you have golem equipped charge it immediately when the mesmer pops stealth for a nice interrupt.

DS torment and siphon are some nice tools to kite clones.

but killing clones loads me with soft cc and condis =s

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Posted by: Sors Immani.8429

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but killing clones loads me with soft cc and condis =s

Either redirect the condis back at the mesmer with Plague Sig/Putrid Mark/Deathly Swarm or drop Well of Power and turn em into boons while creating a bit of high ground for yourself.

Speaking of mesmers, ran across one yesterday who had a Birthday boost active & couldn’t understand why I was able to hone in on ’em constantly. If only all mesmers could be this naive!

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