Guild Wars 2

Hello everybody. This thread is not meant at discussing the Smoke assault 50% damage nerf. Please do so in other threads.

When the new smokescale pet was introduced in BWE3, it got much praise due to its on demand smokefield, which finally granted the ranger a party stealth capability through blast finishers. It is a much needed feature in order to give rangers a chance to fit in the “meta”.

Yesterday night, however, the smoke assault skill was nerfed (did not try it in PvP however, considering the damage potential, it was probably a disserved nerf). At the same time, it was switch with smoke cloud at the active pet F2, thus denying rangers their on demand smokefield. With that change, the smokefield is a pet triggered skill, i.e. it will only trigger during combat.

• it renders the smokefield useless when it comes to party stealth
• it creates issues during combat with the automatic smokefield interfering with firefields

As consequence of this F2 swap, the pet suddenly becomes useless in party PvE (fractals namely) when before the swap it was promising.

Now, I can understand that some PvP players may prefer the new on demand burst (although I am confident that many also prefer the on demand smokefield).

As a consequence, Anet, may it be possible to have two distinct new smokescale pets (e.g. black smokescale and ashen smokescal), one with the original smoke cloud as F2 skill (much needed), and one with the new smoke attack as F2 for those that prefer this option ? This way both needs and gameplay preferences are met and you make all rangers happy (or happier) again.

If impossible to have two pets, then may it please be possible to get smoke cloud back as F2 (while keeping the smoke attack nerf) for the afore mentioned reasons ?

Good suggestion.

+1 on this, great idea

Yeah, I like it, make a second Smokey so we can have the F2 as the smoke field.

if they would be fair,
they would give it to rangers.

but i don’t think so,
because of reasons nobody understand, ranger hate or something, no idea!

so much peoples confirmed something like this undeserved nerfs happens and sad how they was true.

Actually, on second thought, I can’t see it happening. People would just run two Smokeys, use the F2 on one and swap to the other, pretty much would kill anyone, there would be QQ and the Smoke Assault would be nerfed even more.

Gilgalas.7860:

Now, I can understand that some PvP players may prefer the new on demand burst (although I am confident that many also prefer the on demand smokefield).

I would just like to say this:
People who believe that smokescale’s smoke assault cannot be used actively, is an unskilled ranger player. Only people who don’t understand pets will say that.

I can use F2 smoke field actively and pet burst (smoke assault) actively.
Every time you press attack skill on pet, you shift between attacks that pet has.
To get active smoke assault, let your pet get in range of smoke assault range, press attack F1, and your pet will perform smoke assault if your pet is in range, but make sure you don’t spamm it because you can break your assault attack.

Same goes with every other pet, double immobilize OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO no one seen that right ? people are just kittening complaining about rangers without understanding the simply kittening basics.

It’s just rude from other players to demand smokescale and other pets nerfs without knowing what pets do, how hard is it to pull it off, and most importent, they complain about the freaking damage, but would they try to at least dodge one? NOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooo why would they? They rather complain about pet, and say it is op then kittening dodge it. I’m done with this ranger nerfs, it’s just pathetic.

Druid will stay kitten for at least 2-3 months, mark my words, while smokescale got nerfed in 24hours same as Heal As One.

Ranger status, positive feedback, NERF IT, negative feedback/bug, LEAVE IT FOR MONTHS

Good suggestion.

I think it’d be a good idea as well. Excellent compromise.

Maybe make a different existing pet have an f2 smoke field?

Fire Drake seems thematic but with the recent tailswipe one shot vids it could be a new issue.

Maybe you hop on my thread and praise me for fixing every problem ever in a revolutionary and groundbreaking way, especially the issue of wanting to have two different pet attacks bound to keys.

Justine.6351:

Maybe make a different existing pet have an f2 smoke field?

Fire Drake seems thematic but with the recent tailswipe one shot vids it could be a new issue.

Omg PLEASE don’t get my favorite pet in the game nerfed, lol. I’d be very, very sad…

Great suggestion though, OP. Unfortunately I don’t think they would do this simply because there is always an adult version of our pets in the open world. I just don’t think it’s likely they would add a new juvenile version without having to add a bunch of adults through out the world which would obviously be a lot of work.

Either way, it is a superb idea and one could only hope something they might consider doing. We are pretty much in a universal state of agreeance that the damage nerf was justified (albeit a bit much… I think 25% would have been better) but the F2 change was not. It’s not like the smokefield was causing any problems… The only thing it did was give us one of very few pets an option to combo extremely well with it’s master.