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Posted by: oshilator.4681

oshilator.4681

I’m hoping against hope that this wasn’t intended & somebody (preferably not Roy) reverts/tweaks these AF changes.

As of right now, Druid is clunky & next to useless.

Headdesk

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Posted by: Aidenwolf.5964

Aidenwolf.5964

Can’t build astral force without staff and it vanishes before your eyes in seconds if you don’t use it. Fail.

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Posted by: mistsim.2748

mistsim.2748

I really hope this is a bad bug…

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Posted by: Gilgalas.7860

Gilgalas.7860

At work right now, but reading this, it looks like I won’t even give a try to the druid until it gets at least 2 strong updates (just as other elite spec gots, except for Scrapper)

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Posted by: ProtoMarcus.7649

ProtoMarcus.7649

I fail to see the logic behind this change. AF is extremely slow to generate, HIGHLY depends on staff, they added a CD to the transform, and the Astral skills are very underwhelming. Also, forget about the celestial form glyphs… The Risk vs Reward is really awful.

I’m sadly quite disappointed at the Druid’s current state, please Irenio, you’re my only hope

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Posted by: Wondrouswall.7169

Wondrouswall.7169

Pretty much killed Druid for me. This class can’t seem to avoid “one step forward, two steps back” development choices.

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Posted by: Photinous.4628

Photinous.4628

RIP Druid. Without a staff, the druid is basically worthless since AF generation is abysmal. With a staff, the Druid does absolutely no damage. It serves absolutely no place in PvP right now, and probably the same in all the other modes.

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Posted by: Holland.9351

Holland.9351

To top it off, staff 1 sounds like a annoying submarine radar or something now.

lol I suggested the sound to change since it sounded like grape stomping before. I haven’t heard the new version yet. I’m currently just happy it changed.

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Posted by: Relshdan.6854

Relshdan.6854

awful, chicken kitten nerf……having ill thoughts on whichever dev decided this.

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Posted by: Holland.9351

Holland.9351

When I played Druid I didn’t use CA, so I wouldn’t miss it anyway, but it sounds horrible. Forget about trait-ing for it too then, if it’s as bad as you all say (I believe you).

Staff is pretty nice for mobility and not being reflected, so I’ll probably still use it.

Druid still brings some nice traits to the table… right? Guys? Well maybe just Natural Stride and Ancient Seeds now.

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Posted by: mistsim.2748

mistsim.2748

Lingering Light is “super strong” (I wont say OP). it’s basically blinds for everyone, including yourself. on a 3s ICD. that’s with every new INSTANCE of heals. u can use warhorn, staff 2, staff 1, whatever. not to mention u can also spam blinds in avatar.

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Posted by: Holland.9351

Holland.9351

Lingering Light is broken OP. it’s basically blinds for everyone, including yourself. on a 3s ICD. that’s with every new INSTANCE of heals. u can use warhorn, staff 2, staff 1, whatever. not to mention u can also spam blinds in avatar.

lol, including yourself?

Remember it’s a GM trait and that for an elite spec. Don’t be too quick in calling it OP. Some non-elite spec GM traits can give an entire party 25 stacks of might.

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Posted by: mistsim.2748

mistsim.2748

lol, including yourself?

meaning that when you heal yourself, you blind on next attack and heal for 600 without any healing power. same applies to anyone receiving your heals. I don’t think many understand how strong this is.

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Posted by: Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582

Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582

lol, including yourself?

meaning that when you heal yourself, you blind on next attack and heal for 600 without any healing power. same applies to anyone receiving your heals. I don’t think many understand how strong this is.

That is the best trait Druid has for PvP/WvW, by far.

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Posted by: Wolfs Shadow.7234

Wolfs Shadow.7234

back to the reaper

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Posted by: Sandzibar.5134

Sandzibar.5134

lol, including yourself?

meaning that when you heal yourself, you blind on next attack and heal for 600 without any healing power. same applies to anyone receiving your heals. I don’t think many understand how strong this is.

That is the best trait Druid has for PvP/WvW, by far.

Roy nerf in 3 2 …

Looking forward to testing it when I get back from work.

I had thought to go Druidic Clarity / Celesital Shadow / Ancient Seeds on my Skirm/BM shout build.

Now – given how bad AF apparently generation is, and how we cant maintain a full AF bar moving from fight to fight- it makes traits like Druidic Clarity and Celestial Shadow pretty bad choices.

Will give Cultivated Synergy / Verdent Etchings / Lingering Lights a try instead. Cultivated Synergy has synergy with lingering lights. Verdant etching might be good, but I still think glyphs are in a bad place.

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Posted by: Holland.9351

Holland.9351

lol, including yourself?

meaning that when you heal yourself, you blind on next attack and heal for 600 without any healing power. same applies to anyone receiving your heals. I don’t think many understand how strong this is.

That is the best trait Druid has for PvP/WvW, by far.

That does sound pretty excellent. A solid trait for all kinds of situations. Ancient Seeds has a more powerful effect, but it doesn’t always work.

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Posted by: LegallyBinding.4937

LegallyBinding.4937

Any word from Arenanet? Seems really weird they would implement this huge nerf without comment.

Anyways, if this is the way of things I won’t be playing my Ranger in HoT. Hell we’ll see if I even still play HoT. Engineer maybe?

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Posted by: Puck.9612

Puck.9612

Any word from Arenanet? Seems really weird they would implement this huge nerf without comment.

Anyways, if this is the way of things I won’t be playing my Ranger in HoT. Hell we’ll see if I even still play HoT. Engineer maybe?

I dunno, did anyone check twitter?

Look for something like #lolkittenThoseRangers

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Posted by: Reavan.8753

Reavan.8753

Any word from Arenanet? Seems really weird they would implement this huge nerf without comment.

Anyways, if this is the way of things I won’t be playing my Ranger in HoT. Hell we’ll see if I even still play HoT. Engineer maybe?

This is my thoughts.
It was super huge for a stealth nerf, devs if yer reading some questions that you could answer if you can.

- is generating AF outside of combat by healing others or your pet with staff, self heal etc, is that not intended by the dev team.
Like do you want us to only generate af in fights?

If true
-Whats the logic behind PVP starting with full AF.

- Is this a bug.

- Are you happy with the possibility of hybrid druids having ok damage and really high sustain compared to other classes, keep in mind we can only do one at a time.

-Is staff going to remain so horrible.

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Posted by: Chicho Gosho.6507

Chicho Gosho.6507

That’s what we get with 1 beta weekend. Lets just hope that they address the problem quickly.

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Posted by: Zatoichi.1049

Zatoichi.1049

I had a list of things I was going to do when my download completed. Druid was #1, now its off the list for the time being. Very sad day…

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Posted by: Relshdan.6854

Relshdan.6854

Lets just hope that they address the problem quickly.

they only address buffs quickly. this will stay as is for another 4+ months until the next balance patch.

4 months of useless elite spec.

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Posted by: Relshdan.6854

Relshdan.6854

I posted this in a similar thread, but this is how warriors feel with berserker stance. Adren decay sucks just as much as this.

Getting to enter your elite mode once per fight when the fight is 75% over is not a fun mechanic.

but warriors build adren much qiucker and with all their weapons.

druid must use staff to have any chance of using CF even once.

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Posted by: BeckaPL.2670

BeckaPL.2670

I gotta agree with the complaints on this one. Been testing most of the day and I got enough AF for CAF once and got downed before I could use it to heal myself. The generation of AF is far too low at the moment, even using staff, to justify the degeneration out of combat. It’s utterly ridiculous. I’m hoping it will be fixed cause currently we’re having to deal with: bad resource generation, degeneration out of combat and a cooldown. We’re now the love child of necro and warrior where we got all the bad genes of death shroud and adrenaline.

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Posted by: infantrydiv.1620

infantrydiv.1620

If this is intended, the devs really are conspiring to keep Ranger nonviable in PvP

Ranger//Necro

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Posted by: Piedplat.3597

Piedplat.3597

With out the staff, AF is really hard to build source to transform.

lame…

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Posted by: Yelloweyedemon.2860

Yelloweyedemon.2860

After surviving today’s work I get home to find this…

On a serious note I bet this is a bug caused by the 10s cd of AF.

Many other elite specs have problems as well, so I think we should stop the doom & gloom “OMG I’m so done, I’m rolling Revenant” and wait a couple of days to see what’s up.

By all means though, if this is intended the devs are leaving us (druid) out of pretty much every game mode intentionally.

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Posted by: Reavan.8753

Reavan.8753

After surviving today’s work I get home to find this…

On a serious note I bet this is a bug caused by the 10s cd of AF.

Many other elite specs have problems as well, so I think we should stop the doom & gloom “OMG I’m so done, I’m rolling Revenant” and wait a couple of days to see what’s up.

By all means though, if this is intended the devs are leaving us (druid) out of pretty much every game mode intentionally.

Roy got quick on the mark to inform mesmers of their bug. Don’t see whats taking so long.