Guild Wars 2

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I live in WvW and all I do is Solo/roam/small man w/guildies…if that’s your play style then Ranger has several ways to go that work quite well. Most are however bunker/bm based.

As for Zerg surfing, I can’t voice an opinion as I don’t find the fights near as fun and as a result don’t do it very often.

Rangers can zerg surf with the best of them in berserker’s gear with a longbow and either axe/warhorn or greatsword on switch. Very few other builds can match them for badges per hour.

If they use cleric’s or apothecary’s gear instead and run suitable weapons they are among the most effective solo/small group skirmishers and can hold their own against any of the other popular roaming builds.

In other words, rangers are pretty solid in WvW.

I’ve never been a fan of roaming as it doesn’t get much done in WvW, so I wouldn’t know much about that side of rangers, but in group based play rangers in berserker gear and a longbow traited to 1,500 range can be great! You can snipe people while the rest of your team takes the attacks, use barrage to deal a good amount of AoE damage, and destroy siege that the rest of your team can’t reach.

I’ve been running my ranger for quite a long time in WvW.

I run it because I like the class and have fun with it. However, it is NOT because the class is particularly strong in WvW.

If you run a bunker/condition/trap type build, then you’ll be the most viable when dealing with other classes trying to take you out (especially the Thief as we’re they’re favorite target).

Pets, which make up a portion of the Ranger’s effectiveness in DPS and survive-ability are virtually useless STILL.

Personally I would not go glass cannon with the Ranger.

Depends on what you are doing in WvW?

Zerg= trap bunker builds (condition/power based)
Roaming= Beastmaster bunker
Havoc= Any build works fine
Pure glass cannon Rangers= Rally the enemy & free loot bags

Am play ranger on WWW a lot but not best like a lot of fellow ranger around here.
I overall going spec can play in any situation run supply,Repair/Medic/spotter/Anti-yak/Protect-yak/suppression or concentrate fire squad,or even run with zerg.
In WWW must know what did you want to go Ranger good but not best in overall high end as another class in my think.

Don’t nerf your server, don’t bring a Ranger to WvW.

Let the guy/gal play what he/she wants, if you want to try a Ranger in WvWvW, then go for it, don’t listen to all the negative people, go and have fun!

Odokuro.5049:

Let the guy/gal play what he/she wants, if you want to try a Ranger in WvWvW, then go for it, don’t listen to all the negative people, go and have fun!

It’s all false press anyway, rangers are very useful in WvW. Stice was spot on with his analysis. Rangers are great at raking up badges with a longbow, although the actual damage output isn’t super high, while being one of the best roamers in the game with both trap builds and BM bunkers.

Stice.5204:

Rangers can zerg surf with the best of them in berserker’s gear with a longbow and either axe/warhorn or greatsword on switch. Very few other builds can match them for badges per hour.

If they use cleric’s or apothecary’s gear instead and run suitable weapons they are among the most effective solo/small group skirmishers and can hold their own against any of the other popular roaming builds.

In other words, rangers are pretty solid in WvW.

Since last patch, I think ranger is now the best roamer in WvW. In open field, a well played ranger is just simply unkillable in any 1v1 and in most 1v2 and 1v3 situation.
For zerg surfing, maybe ranger can’t contribute much, but who cares since everyone is just follow zerg brainlessly.

CRrabbit.1284:

Since last patch, I think ranger is now the best roamer in WvW. In open field, a well played ranger is just simply unkillable in any 1v1 and in most 1v2 and 1v3 situation.
For zerg surfing, maybe ranger can’t contribute much, but who cares since everyone is just follow zerg brainlessly.

Got any videos of 1 ranger vs 3 of anything in WvW provided they are not upleveled, undergeard, and/or bad at pvp?

Deamhan.9538:

Got any videos of 1 ranger vs 3 of anything in WvW provided they are not upleveled, undergeard, and/or bad at pvp?

There is no build for any class in this game that can win 1v3 against enemies who aren’t bad at PvP, but a well-played ranger with a roaming build can at least escape from that situation much of the time.

There are multiple videos posted here just in the last week showing ranger players being quite successful versus multiple opponents in WvW.

See this one: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/Video-Exploits-WvW-Melee-BM-Ranger

This one: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/Video-Tupro-1vX-solo-roam-WvW

Or this one: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/Don-t-interrupt-duels-the-movie

I have several 1vX fights vs non scaled enemies in my Vids

(granted, there are a couple of fights that had a scaled mixed in with 80s but out-manned none the less)

And I’m kitten LB/SB

Or try Tupro, Exploits, Faux, Xsorus vids and likely others I am not thinking about..

As for 1v1s I dont think I have lost a 1v1 in a good 2 weeks..

Venereus.9473:

Don’t nerf your server, don’t bring a Ranger to WvW.

You just don’t want to deal with the annoyance of being shot off your Flame Ram by a Point-Blank Shot, and then attempt to run back only to be thrown into down state due to Viper’s Nest, Flame Trap, and Spike Trap hitting you along with a Barrage, huh?

RyuDragnier.9476:

Venereus.9473:

Don’t nerf your server, don’t bring a Ranger to WvW.

You just don’t want to deal with the annoyance of being shot off your Flame Ram by a Point-Blank Shot, and then attempt to run back only to be thrown into down state due to Viper’s Nest, Flame Trap, and Spike Trap hitting you along with a Barrage, huh?

Except, you know, those attacks only hit a maximum of 5 people – and we know there’s never more than 5 people at a door.
Or you could always build an arrow cart, get on that and do more than annoy everyone sitting at the gate.

The viability of classes in WvW starts to matter less as you go higher in the server tiers, and instead the emphasis is on zerg tactics, having commanders that aren’t short a few brain cells, and the use of siege. Assuming you want to WvW for what it is and not run around looking for people to solo gank.
You could be a level 1 with nothing equipped and contribute far more toward your server’s score by simply running supply than the level 80 in full exotics+ascended that’s camping the jumping puzzle for kills.

ExpiredLifetime.1083:

RyuDragnier.9476:

Venereus.9473:

Don’t nerf your server, don’t bring a Ranger to WvW.

You just don’t want to deal with the annoyance of being shot off your Flame Ram by a Point-Blank Shot, and then attempt to run back only to be thrown into down state due to Viper’s Nest, Flame Trap, and Spike Trap hitting you along with a Barrage, huh?

Except, you know, those attacks only hit a maximum of 5 people – and we know there’s never more than 5 people at a door.
Or you could always build an arrow cart, get on that and do more than annoy everyone sitting at the gate.

If I’m running defense on a keep or tower and throwing all that at the enemy, either there’s not enough time to build an AC, or we’ve already got people on them. Besides, in T5 and lower, there’s usually only a couple at the door, and they scatter instantly due to the now OP nature of AC. Plus just stopping them at the door with a Spike Trap is enough to get them killed.

Stice.5204:

Deamhan.9538:

Got any videos of 1 ranger vs 3 of anything in WvW provided they are not upleveled, undergeard, and/or bad at pvp?

There is no build for any class in this game that can win 1v3 against enemies who aren’t bad at PvP, but a well-played ranger with a roaming build can at least escape from that situation much of the time.

Lol thief says hello.

Also what is this tier ranking on worlds? Is there a list somewhere?

I’ve pretty much leveled my ranger in WvW, (PvE was just too easy on a ranger I guess). I’ve run with zergs, soloed, small teamed, escorted dolyaks, and defended keeps/towers. I would say rangers contribute alot, but how much will depend on you as a player more than profession X vs Y.

My favorite thing to do is flank. I love breaking out from the zerg and hitting the sides of an enemy with two hyenas and me. I love dropping mud on them, trapping or throwing conditions all around. Flanking pulls players from the main effort and I have plenty of evades, regen, and two pets to lay down problems, back-out if needed and jump back in to harass.

But like I said, how good you will be or how much you will contribute is dependent on you.

I have played a ranger a lot in WvW, do zergs and roaming with a party/solo…they are okay/middle of the road I would say…

Guardians, Warriors, Mesmers are overall better(at everything)…

A Thief is the best roamer solo/in a party…

A Elementalist is best for getting the most loot…

Necro’s/Engineers are with Rangers middle of the road…

My Ranger has got over 2,000 player kills in WvW and died about 800 times getting them…which isn’t great really…

I have to ask what you’re doing wrong then Meglo. I have over 2K kill in WvW and I’ve died less than 100 times.

RyuDragnier.9476:

I have to ask what you’re doing wrong then Meglo. I have over 2K kill in WvW and I’ve died less than 100 times.

I would love to know!

My equipment’s the best possible, all ascended accessories, all exotic weapons / armour, run the best builds for a ranger, best sigils/runes.

In PvP the same character wins above 70%+ of all PvP games played both tournements/hot join…

I am on tier 1 Europe, Seafarers Rest and its pretty brutal, we are constantly outnumbered 3 vs 1 by Viz…often our 30 strong zerg gets overrun by 100 viz…

When roaming, I only die to thiefs or when really outnumbered…

First thing, identify what you like to do in WvW and trait your ranger to achieve that goal. If you like playing as a ranger then no matter what anyone says you will contribute in WvW.
Keep in mind though that there are 2 main ways you can play as a ranger there:
-As a high DPS ranged machine, helping to bring down weak foes from a distance. Stay clear of any possible danger and -always- keep your eyes our for thiefs, they are typically on the hunt to bring you down.
-As a BM build, any of those of your preference (healing oriented/condition oriented/etc). These are optimal in 5 man group or sometimes even solo roaming. You will be tougher to kill, you will be able to provide support by bring hell to those pesky thiefs (if you do it right) and overall you will be able to depend less on the zerg for your own goals. However, your ranged potential is not at all full DPS. So be clever because BM ranger excels in smaller fights, not in large zerg ones, but we all know how important it is to constantly win those small fights even when it’s zerg vs zerg.