Guild Wars 2

Haven’t played for 3 months and everyone kept saying they were one of the top 3 worst classes for WvW , is it still the same? And what are the current best builds for WvW?

I had a longbow crit damage build which allowed me to stay really far and land 10k+ crits with the second skill however I’m failing really hard lately and damage doesn’t seem as high. Maybe its just me since I haven’t played for so long

Rangers work in wvw like ninjas work in the ongoing ninjas vs. pirates debate.
If it’s 1 ranger vs 1 somebody else, the ranger does well. However, if there are a bunch of rangers and a bunch of somebody elses, the rangers will get destroyed.

Rangers are just not great in group fights. 1v1 they’re fine, but they lack zerg utility.

~ Kovu

Kovu.7560:

Rangers work in wvw like ninjas work in the ongoing ninjas vs. pirates debate.
If it’s 1 ranger vs 1 somebody else, the ranger does well. However, if there are a bunch of rangers and a bunch of somebody elses, the rangers will get destroyed.

Rangers are just not great in group fights. 1v1 they’re fine, but they lack zerg utility.

~ Kovu

I disagree. I use a zerker build (just exotic armor pieces and ascended trinkets) and i make sure i kill more people from the zerg before i get killed. it’s all about positioning. it’s not that easy but with practice can still be done. btw, i played tpvp in a really long time before i tried wvw.

rangers rock!!!

Valentin.2073:

Kovu.7560:

Rangers work in wvw like ninjas work in the ongoing ninjas vs. pirates debate.
If it’s 1 ranger vs 1 somebody else, the ranger does well. However, if there are a bunch of rangers and a bunch of somebody elses, the rangers will get destroyed.

Rangers are just not great in group fights. 1v1 they’re fine, but they lack zerg utility.

~ Kovu

I disagree. I use a zerker build (just exotic armor pieces and ascended trinkets) and i make sure i kill more people from the zerg before i get killed. it’s all about positioning. it’s not that easy but with practice can still be done. btw, i played tpvp in a really long time before i tried wvw.

rangers rock!!!

On a kill ratio basis I’ld think it would be pretty hard to die more than you kill in WvW as a power ranger.

Zerg Surfing the stragglers cut from the herd. Ohh fierce scavenger.

But definitely not charging the zerg.

So good in WvW may be a matter of perception. Not feeling like I’m winning the war or anything but definitely some fun battles.

Power builds have definitely improved a bit since I left over a year ago. More to go but it’s markedly better.

And bunker builds are aplenty.

No pets don’t survive zergs well but spiders make handy mobile arrow and bullet shields.

rangers are fine in wvw, in solo and small groups i win some fights and i lose some fights.
and in zerging I can stay alive longer then most and farm a heap of bags.

once fight size gets above about 15v15 pets just die even, bears may make it it 20v20

Rangers and thieves both get a lot of flack from warriors and guardians in zerg fights. The reality is, there are tons of squishy or wounded targets that need to be ganked. A full third or more any zerg is going to be squishy, and everyone gets wounded. A half dead warrior quickly becomes a full health warrior unless you finish him off.

I play primarily as a roamer, but thinking thieves and rangers aren’t playing a critical role in zerg clashes is doing them a big disservice. Just because warriors are doing the glorious job of eating all the damage doesn’t mean they’re actually killing more players. Thieves in particular can 1-shot the glass cannon eles that make up the majority of a zerg’s damage. Not to mention the effect on the enemy zerg’s formations.

That’s talking about berserkers. There are of course plenty of durable rangers that can wade through the middle of a zerg while eating cake, but I don’t play those nor know much about them.

Valentin.2073:

Kovu.7560:

Rangers work in wvw like ninjas work in the ongoing ninjas vs. pirates debate.
If it’s 1 ranger vs 1 somebody else, the ranger does well. However, if there are a bunch of rangers and a bunch of somebody elses, the rangers will get destroyed.

Rangers are just not great in group fights. 1v1 they’re fine, but they lack zerg utility.

~ Kovu

I disagree. I use a zerker build (just exotic armor pieces and ascended trinkets) and i make sure i kill more people from the zerg before i get killed. it’s all about positioning. it’s not that easy but with practice can still be done. btw, i played tpvp in a really long time before i tried wvw.

rangers rock!!!

What are your group utilities, as a zerker?
You tag enough people to say you killed enough to be useful, then you die and rallybot 5 foes…

Ranger’s group utilities are close to null…
Heal, that takes in explosions and takes off some alterations… Warhorn explosion… (hopefully) some CC…
not so many group utilities…

Jocksy.3415:

What are your group utilities, as a zerker?
You tag enough people to say you killed enough to be useful, then you die and rallybot 5 foes…

I believe he was talking about picking off squishies and wounded like I mentioned above, while supporting the main zerg with muddy terrain, entangle, cripple and pet CC. In that case you never die to rallybot people. Just pick a target, kill it, continue, stealth and evade if necessary.

Fluffball.8307:

Jocksy.3415:

What are your group utilities, as a zerker?
You tag enough people to say you killed enough to be useful, then you die and rallybot 5 foes…

I believe he was talking about picking off squishies and wounded like I mentioned above, while supporting the main zerg with muddy terrain, entangle, cripple and pet CC. In that case you never die to rallybot people. Just pick a target, kill it, continue, stealth and evade if necessary.

exactlly. i choose the squishiest targets 1st (eles, thieves, other rangers) and then hit enemies who have low health. once detected, i stealth and change position. rangers have so much potential anywhere. you guys just have to love your own profession.

btw, i use both bows to maximize ranger’s range prowess.