Is it possible to beat a mesmer as a ranger?
Power mesmer yes, PU condition no.
Condi Mesmers rarely have much, if any, condition cleanse. Survival or Trapper Ranger can make quick work of them.
Personally I’ve always hated LB Ranger and have been a condition Ranger for a very long time. I gave up on Trapper after the trait reworks because throwable traps was what made me like it so much. These days I’m a full Survival/Beastmaster Ranger and Mesmers are still as easy prey as ever due to their low condition management.
Make good use of your weapon evades, bait out Distortion, count their dodges and pin them down with Entangle. From there they should be toast.
Also remember to take Survival Of The Fittest over Empathetic Bond because a passive cleanse won’t save you against a condition Mesmer.
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The condi pu pretty much hard counters ranger. We have too few aoes to get rid of clones and we receive double the amount of conditions since a lot of their condi-applying skills will bounce between the ranger and the pet. It’s even worse if they trait for reflect on manipulation skills, even if you’re a condi ranger you still rely on quite a few projectiles to apply condis (s/t & a/d builds).
No, they don’t hard counter rangers. They may have the upper hand in a duel, but lb power ranger is acutally one of those very few builds, that has a chance to kill them, thanks to high sustained ranged dmg, cc, and decent condi remove. And if you can’t kill them, it should be no problem to escape, unless you make mistakes. For me they are just annoying, but not very dangerous in 1vs1. If i can’t kill one, i /sleep and walk away ^^.
Have you tried main-hand axe? Pretty much the more they pump out clones the more you kick their backside up around their ears. Bounces see through invisibility just fine…
I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
- Jareth, King of Goblins.
Have you tried main-hand axe? Pretty much the more they pump out clones the more you kick their backside up around their ears. Bounces see through invisibility just fine…
yeah but that only works if you are using axe on a power build which is pretty bad in every other situation
Looks like the Scrapper may be another situation axe shines .
I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
- Jareth, King of Goblins.
yeah but that only works if you are using axe on a power build which is pretty bad in every other situation
I occasionally WvW roam with a condi-focused cele MH axe. Cele armor and a mix of trinkets to get the right stats. Works pretty well against mesmers, especially since they’re weak to condis.
Also what’s up with all the Nike rangers posts lately, are you a ranger player now?
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Have you tried main-hand axe? Pretty much the more they pump out clones the more you kick their backside up around their ears. Bounces see through invisibility just fine…
Yea I’ve tried berserker axe before. It improves your chances of winning by a little bit, but it still takes 2-3 hits to kill the clones since the axe AA has scales horribly with power. You’re still at a disadvantage.
Condi mesmers don’t need to shatter that often and between scepter and staff they got more than enough clone generation anyway. So axe doesn’t do much, but I agree a condi ranger has a much higher chance than power.
Power ranger can’t do anything against them. The range advantage means nothing when they got perma stealth.
My best advice is to run a balanced power type build. Too much offense is a no no against mesmers since they can just kill you so much faster. Next you also need to make sure you run “Sic Um”, BUT don’t just think its an instant win with that utility. You need to anticipate “Mass Invisibility” with is obvious skill animation. Why? Cause most mesmers use MI as a last escape skill. All their other invisibility skills don’t last as long as MI. SO once you see that MI animation, hit “Sic Um” and watch them run for their lives. Or, if they are a kittenty mesmer, just use “Sic Um” when their health is running low to ensure that they don’t run away.
My best advice is to run a balanced power type build. Too much offense is a no no against mesmers since they can just kill you so much faster. Next you also need to make sure you run “Sic Um”, BUT don’t just think its an instant win with that utility. You need to anticipate “Mass Invisibility” with is obvious skill animation. Why? Cause most mesmers use MI as a last escape skill. All their other invisibility skills don’t last as long as MI. SO once you see that MI animation, hit “Sic Um” and watch them run for their lives. Or, if they are a kittenty mesmer, just use “Sic Um” when their health is running low to ensure that they don’t run away.
That only works against bad mesmers. Smarter players will user the stealth from torch before using mass invis to keep from accidentally reflecting a projectile and revealing themselves.
Luckily 90% of the mesmers you will run into are terrible players that band wagoned onto the current easy mode class.