Guild Wars 2

Ranger

Druid—Lingering Light: Increased the internal cooldown on this trait from 3 seconds to 12 seconds and reduced boon duration to 3 seconds.

Ouch. kitten it. No more cheesing by on my perma blind bunker build anymore lol…

Wow. The gutting is strong with arenanet.

Time to bandwagon to ancient seeds and run aggressive CC decap druids.

They’ll just nerf ancient seeds next.

We’re not allowed to have useful traits.

I’m very sad by Irenio CalmonHuangs actions or lack of….

Looks like he doesn’t have a spine to stand up for the class or has no clue what hes doing… not a shock though.. we get one thing fixed in exchange for an overly dramatic nerf =/

Pet has a smokefield that other classes have? BYE
Ranger has one of the better blind setups in the game? BYE
Ranger is competitive with other classes? BYE

The blind needed a nerf, but did the heal also need a nerf? Personally I liked the positional element of the beta version where it put a wisp around the player, allowing you to focus a lot of heals on one target with two wisps plus staff 1.

If simply increasing the cooldown is indeed the right answer, the 400% difference is still just too much. This change is extremely heavy-handed and makes me question whether or not the trait is now even worth having as Grandmaster rank.

Almost every patch since HoT launched has nerfed us.

more nerfs?

kitten … A-net, you really hate Ranger/Druids…

you don’t even tell us why you kick us in the balls,

necros got 1 nerf and even got a post “reasoning behind these changes”

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/necromancer/First-Reaper-nerf-of-the-expansion/first#post5673251

Yeah disappointing, seems we’ll need to bring engis and eles for the blinds now in Raids. 6s internal CD would be much more balanced IMO.

I’m not sure they care about balance anymore. As soon as we have something useful, the nerf hammer comes down.

Wolfey.3407:

I’m very sad by Irenio CalmonHuangs actions or lack of….

Looks like he doesn’t have a spine to stand up for the class or has no clue what hes doing… not a shock though.. we get one thing fixed in exchange for an overly dramatic nerf =/

Thanks for the support, Wolfey. This continues to be an incredibly disappointing expansion for many Rangers/Druids for myriad reasons.

Hmmm can’t decide whether to pick this or gotl now.

What a mess.

ANet is forcing me to adapt every couple of days with their panicky nerfs, might drop Druid spec altogether until things settle down a bit.

What’s next? nerfing Natural Stride to 25% speed? Remove the bleed from Ancient Seeds? Celestial Shadow no longer grants stealth? Bring it on I can take it.

Daharahj.1325:

What a mess.

ANet is forcing me to adapt every couple of days with their panicky nerfs, might drop Druid spec altogether until things settle down a bit.

What’s next? nerfing Natural Stride to 25% speed? Remove the bleed from Ancient Seeds? Celestial Shadow no longer grants stealth?

Probably some variation of “All of The Above.”

12 seconds is too much Anet. Maybe 5 or 6 and trim down on the heal for the rest. At this point, why even have a blind in there. Why would anyone take this trait? A blind every 12 seconds with a strict condition for it to happen? Please revisit this, 12 seconds is not ideal.

that is too much! way too much.

Lol. Well, won’t be using this trait anymore.

My reaction in a more appropriate thread:

Sigh, 12 second ICD.

And that’s not what the sigh is for, the sigh is that the base heal is 596, and only scales up to about 800.

A trait that provided 100+ healing per second now provides about 50 per second baseline, and only scales to 70 hps.

That means at best, it’s only slightly better than worst case Signet of the Wilds 62 base healing per seconds.

The blind should have been removed before this change was ever implemented. GJ ANet, another trait gutted, kneejerk style, with no attempt at even constructively iterating on it for it to retain its value without being broken.

Yikes. That’s an over nerf on the ICD. Curious as to why the duration of the effect had to be reduced as well.

Druid had some nice variety in builds during BW3. Since the launch of HoT, ANet has nerfed everything halfway-viable from Ranger/Druid (CAF, pets, traits) into oblivion. Mind you, all of this has occurred within the first week of the expansion which screams "knee-jerk". Now the only grandmaster trait that heals allies on an elite spec designed around healing is no longer viable.... What in the actual kitten, ANet?

Wow. Another nerf. Color me as shocked . . . not. Seriously, not happy with how the class is getting treated and less than happy with this nonstop nonsense. Again, very obvious they’re basing their decisions around PvP . . . again.

What happened to “Druids are the healers” thing? I mean, I thought that is why they gave us this craptastic Spec. So we would be viable in WvW and instances. . .

12s was too much imo 8s would be perfect.

nearlight.3064:

Wow. The gutting is strong with arenanet.

Time to bandwagon to ancient seeds and run aggressive CC decap druids.

Next Update::::

Ranger

• Druid – Ancient Seeds: Increased internal cooldown on this trait from 10 seconds to 20 seconds. Reduced bleeding to 4 seconds and removed immobilize. Added Cripple for 1 second.

Yeah, I expect Ancient Seeds is next on the nerf slab.

Why does ANet keep nerfing the crap out of the weakest most broken and useless profession?

How much worse can this get, who at ANet is on a mission to remove ranger from the game?

This is beyond a joke, why won’t anyone at ANet explain why they hate the ranger so badly to keep screwing it over so regularly?

I also think the 12 second cd is a bit too much. I understand that the blind needed to be nerfed, but the healing output is too low now. I liked using this trait to give my healing a boost. The heal on the trait probably needs a pretty big boost if it is going to keep that cd.

Chrispy.5641:

nearlight.3064:

Wow. The gutting is strong with arenanet.

Time to bandwagon to ancient seeds and run aggressive CC decap druids.

Next Update::::

Ranger

• Druid – Ancient Seeds: Increased internal cooldown on this trait from 10 seconds to 20 seconds. Reduced bleeding to 4 seconds and removed immobilize. Added Cripple for 1 second.

• Druid – Grace of the Land: Effect only applies while in Celestial Form.

see we all can nerf the druid to the ground… i mean underground (we are already dead on the ground)

Ranger actually had a strong build, you know the devs can’t have that.
Expect Ancient Seeds and healing to be nerfed next.

SqualZell.7813:

Chrispy.5641:

nearlight.3064:

Wow. The gutting is strong with arenanet.

Time to bandwagon to ancient seeds and run aggressive CC decap druids.

Next Update::::

Ranger

• Druid – Ancient Seeds: Increased internal cooldown on this trait from 10 seconds to 20 seconds. Reduced bleeding to 4 seconds and removed immobilize. Added Cripple for 1 second.

• Druid – Grace of the Land: Effect only applies while in Celestial Form.

see we all can nerf the druid to the ground… i mean underground (we are already dead on the ground)

Parts of Druid are already nerfed to China

Man. I never even got to USE this trait before it got nerfed into the ground. Its the next one on my learn bar that I need 10 more points for, and it was the one I was most excited for going into the live launch. Guess I should have grinded faster.

Like, having never used the trait before, it did seem perhaps a little too good on paper. But 4x the cooldown? Jeez, that’s excessive.

Wow, I will admit, it did probably need a nerf, I would even have accepted a 100% increase to 6 seconds, but this was hardly a nerf, this was a stake though the heart of this trait.

Why would you ever take this now? A ICD this long kills it on both ends.

No one would take this for the heal, it was never a strong heal, and the heal was not buffed to compensate (though I can’t image how they could ever buff it enough to warrant the ICD) .

Nor would any one take it for a randomly applied blind ever 12 seconds, if you are lucky to hit something in the split second you have before the effect dissipates.

I guess we will add this to the list of Ranger “Grand master” traits that are useless at best.

Kind of sick of this stuff at this point. Numerous complaints about the way the druid works; “nerf it”

… no, guys. That’s NOT the way we wanted this to go >_>

EDIT: And let me clarify, I won’t say the blind isn’t too much but if it is THAT should be on a separate cooldown, NOT the healing. “We want you to be a healer! Just … you know … not a good one?”

The pvp forum complaining about bunker druid with Minstrel amulet is what got this nerfed.
Yet another reason for stuff being divided between PvE/PvP.

Zalani.9827:

The pvp forum complaining about bunker druid with Minstrel amulet is what got this nerfed.
Yet another reason for stuff being divided between PvE/PvP.

kitten those PvP players crying bloody wolf everytime they see something remotely threatening from a mile away.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Something-needs-to-be-done-with-Ancient-Seeds

There we go…

Few hours ago b4 patch i was so happy to get my druid maxed and a lot of fun with it then took a break and woke up and see this….Yay free coffee ( punch in the face )

Wyrdfell.8327:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Something-needs-to-be-done-with-Ancient-Seeds

There we go…

Told you people Ancient Seeds would be next, Lol.

Zalani.9827:

Wyrdfell.8327:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Something-needs-to-be-done-with-Ancient-Seeds

There we go…

Told you people Ancient Seeds would be next, Lol.

Well, was fun while it lasted. I suggest anyone wanting to play Druid in PvP just not equip a GM trait to get used to all incoming nerfs due to QQs.

I don’t want to see ancient seeds nerfed but it was obviously strong the first time it was seen.

Do I think it should be nerfed? No.
Will it get trimmed? Probably.
Will I cry? Depends on how dull the razor is.

I am surprised that the nerf is so heavy handed. I was expecting the same treatment as with blinding ashes which got its ICD increased from 5 to 8. But from 3 to 12 and a reduction of the proc duration is just… wow.

Again, something goes from great to worthless.

Sigh… good times.

12 seconds, how kittened is that please?

ok, now just make lingering light how it was on the beta please.
sayed it before, the beta version was fine.

i don’t need random blind every 12 seconds, i want the HEAL

Grace of the land needs a nerf, not this. The aoe damage buff is too strong. And only requires 1 druid, making 2 druids useless.

Kidel.2057:

Grace of the land needs a nerf, not this. The aoe damage buff is too strong. And only requires 1 druid, making 2 druids useless.

just give it a few days, they will destroy Grace of the Land aswell. but first they need to kill Ancient seed.

Kidel.2057:

Grace of the land needs a nerf, not this. The aoe damage buff is too strong. And only requires 1 druid, making 2 druids useless.

This is the dumbest reasoning for a nerf possible…

You aren’t going to get 2 Druids in fractals and we will probably already need 2 druids in the harder raid bosses. If we don’t, gimping GotL isn’t going to make people bring 2.