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Posted by: Zariuss.2357

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http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQJAVRjAVR2VWCWoWCg9BBbPykTMZKMMxvgTGSqSB-jUyAYLIcGARBiqAk/KiGbptIasqFM1JRUt3oIa1xA4H-w

Im posting this build because I would love some feedback to my future WvWvW ranger. I have never done a ranger build so go easy on me!

In this build I want to do primarly raw damage, but also some condition damage while being able to survive some hits. I have a high amount of precision and power, and condition as a secondary stat on all my armor pieces, although I dont know how much this will actually increase my condition damage. If it doesen’t help that much, I might consider berserker or knight armor, and switch to rune of the ranger. I might change Troll unguent to Healing spring, since Im kind of weak against condition damage, and not many means to remove them.

Since I have such a high critical chance, I chose to put Sigil of earth which im quite confident will work out nicely, but not so sure about the Sigil of air in my greatsword, would love to get some other suggestions on a sigil for this weapon.

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Posted by: Miiro.3124

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I prefer hydromancy on my GS but its really up to you and how you use it

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Posted by: Zariuss.2357

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I dont know… I dont think that many players are going to try to run away from me if im using my GS, if so i can easily catch up since i got the 25% signet and the charge skill.

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Posted by: Kootje.9271

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You can always put this build in gw2buildcraft. It tells your condition damage on your bleeds. About food, i’d rather choose the lemongrass, and add a masters maintenance oil (it’ll put u above 50% crit also on your carrion sb). The lemongrass will give -40% condi duration, which is a lot.
I’d wouldn’t put the 15 points in power, but 5 extra in precision for the 10% when flanking and 10 points in nature healing for the regen and the 33% regen duration.

But it’s ofc a matter of playstyle.

btw out of curiosity i put it in build:
And put in a master maintenance oil.
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/ranger/?6.0|5.0.h16|1.1g.h14|1o.711.1o.711.1o.711.1o.711.1o.711.1o.711|1n.67.1n.67.1n.67.1n.67.1n.67.1g.67|f3.k25.u36b.0.5|2i.7|0.0.0.0.0|e

And i’d be more for thief rune.

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Posted by: Zariuss.2357

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Thanks for the responce. I didnt look to much at the food, so I just put something i thought was decent there :P I havent done much WvWvW, but I think that your enemy will not allow you to attack them from the flank, I might be wrong though. And If i use troll urgent, I only get regeneration from the minor trait, so I think I will skip that, might get it if i decide to use healing spring.

Thanks for the new build calc, very good to see condition damage. I noticed that if i remove carrion gear and replace it with something without condition damage, I only go down from 80 to 71 each bleeding stack… This seem very little to me but that could also be wrong, or am I? Maybe I should replace that with knight or berserker gear?

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Posted by: awge.3852

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Few comments on what I think will work better for you in WvW:
- Assuming you will want to keep the setup you have right now, change wilderness survival XI for Bark Skin XII it will save your life a million times more than condition removal from pet, damage mitigation 33% when you are low in health can really come in handy and give you those extra precious seconds to recover or retreat. Change adept III for adept VI and master VI for master IX Hide in plain sight, amazingly valuable saved my life many times (but that is relative, more than not). On skirmishing you may want agility training for your pet to be able to chase down enemies for you, give it a try it might be more useful than you know. Use Quick draw on skirmishing master, it will be very useful.

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Posted by: Indoles.1467

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- Assuming you will want to keep the setup you have right now, change wilderness survival XI for Bark Skin XII it will save your life a million times more than condition removal from pet, damage mitigation 33% when you are low in health can really come in handy and give you those extra precious seconds to recover or retreat.

Didn’t read the rest of what you said but this advice is terrible. Without empathetic bond he/she will have no condition removal which is a death sentence in any wvw and most solo play. Any form of a condition build will be a harder counter than you could imagine. My rule of thumb in any build, need at least one source of on demand condition removal, one stun breaker, and one source of periodic condition removal (mainly to keep away those incredibly long conditions and free you of chain cripple,chill, or immobilize). Bark skin also doesn’t work on conditions, another thing to point out.

A couple ways to go about this would be to have empathic bond and healing spring (healing spring is a must for every ranger in our guild as other professions can stack blast finishers on it to heal the zerg). You can also run signet of renewal and healing spring, but not just signet of renewal because the downtime on it is too long. Lastly, you could run empathetic bond and signet of renewal. Something to note that many people forget, the passive on signet of renewal is the only way to give our pets their own condition removal, without it they are ultimately doomed in most fights as it is just a matter of time since our condition removal (mostly) relies on the pet being alive.

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Posted by: Zariuss.2357

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I think I will keep my condition removal. And I had forgotten about the healing spring combo field, so I will change to that! The signet of renewal does seem nice, but I love 25% speed since I dont have any access to swiftness, and running will feel quite slow… The 25% speed buff does work in combat too right? If not then I could switch to renewal when I get into combat… 30% speed on pet does seem nice, I might consider it.

I checked out that other build and video (beastmaster) and it looked nice, but I dont really understand why have 20% less cd on SB, doesent seem worth it to me, 30% speed on pet does seem a bit better to me. 3 stacks of might for 3sec after they have been activated seems a bit weird too, since the cooldown is rather long. I might change my build a bit and change out the carrion with knight as the cond damage doesent really seem worth it. Also, I dont think I will get celestial trinkets, since I got 8 characters and my ranger isnt even my main character, so yeah :P

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Posted by: PsionicDingo.2065

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It works in combat. It also has a fairly short cooldown and a nifty effect, so if you don’t get time to swap it, it’s useful

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Posted by: Zariuss.2357

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Ok, so I have modified my build and gear, where I focus less on condition damage, and more on survivability and raw damage.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQJAVRjEVR2VWCWo2Bi2DOZJMxZcIF9Pk+UORJkKF-j0xAYrARUgoKAJwioxqYwUmER1+jioVLDAzCA-w

What are your opinions of this build? I might focus to much on critical damage, but since I got a high precision I thought I would get some critical damage aswell.

I hear that jaguar got auto-crit from stealth so I put him there which goes well with skirmishing I, but is this true? Also, I put the alpine wolf because I think an aoe chill goes well against thieves, only downside is that it got a low precision which makes Skirmishing I less effective.

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Posted by: Zariuss.2357

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Bumpeti bump…

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Posted by: awge.3852

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- Assuming you will want to keep the setup you have right now, change wilderness survival XI for Bark Skin XII it will save your life a million times more than condition removal from pet, damage mitigation 33% when you are low in health can really come in handy and give you those extra precious seconds to recover or retreat.

Didn’t read the rest of what you said but this advice is terrible. Without empathetic bond he/she will have no condition removal which is a death sentence in any wvw and most solo play. Any form of a condition build will be a harder counter than you could imagine. My rule of thumb in any build, need at least one source of on demand condition removal, one stun breaker, and one source of periodic condition removal (mainly to keep away those incredibly long conditions and free you of chain cripple,chill, or immobilize). Bark skin also doesn’t work on conditions, another thing to point out.

A couple ways to go about this would be to have empathic bond and healing spring (healing spring is a must for every ranger in our guild as other professions can stack blast finishers on it to heal the zerg). You can also run signet of renewal and healing spring, but not just signet of renewal because the downtime on it is too long. Lastly, you could run empathetic bond and signet of renewal. Something to note that many people forget, the passive on signet of renewal is the only way to give our pets their own condition removal, without it they are ultimately doomed in most fights as it is just a matter of time since our condition removal (mostly) relies on the pet being alive.

Nice criticism based on the fact that you did not finish reading my post. Anyhow I agree with your opinion, condition removal is important in WvW, but sometimes all you need to do is play is smart. For example I only have healing spring as my condition removal option, which can be risky depending on the situation, but at the same time it allows me to choose other options that can further enhance my survivability. I consider bark skin important because it can help you survive very difficult situations, such as being caught in the fray of a fight taking heavy damage. But everything is relative, at the very least you have the ability to change your traits depending on what situation you are about to run into. By the way why not have bark skin + signet of renewal, you get the best of both worlds, rather than focusing your traits only to remove conditions?

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