Guild Wars 2

This is a thread for remarking on the positive changes rangers have and the builds they enable. Please, no whining or moaning on this thread—if you want to do that, go on one of the many QQ threads you can find on the forum.

So we got greatsword cooldown reductions and a stun break on QZ. Tell me why I should stop running conditions in pvp and give me a build to test. Or brag about the new Awesome build you got. Or brag about how your build is even stronger with the buffs. Go!

Chopps.5047:

This is a thread for remarking on the positive changes rangers have and the builds they enable. Please, no whining or moaning on this thread—if you want to do that, go on one of the many QQ threads you can find on the forum.

So we got greatsword cooldown reductions and a stun break on QZ. Tell me why I should stop running conditions in pvp and give me a build to test. Or brag about the new Awesome build you got. Or brag about how your build is even stronger with the buffs. Go!

Whelp, both my “Support kitten” and my LB condition build (i’m guarding this with my life) continue to work… and now my friends GS burst build is borderline OP, so i think we’re in a good spot…

I wonder if people are going to figure out that if you want to be a glass canon you should be relying on melee damage and not ranged damage anytime soon…

Oh realy? And what amazing burts your friends have with GS?
The point is GS buff is fine. But with quickness nerf even less builds are viable now.

Thanks! for speaking my mind Geshque

I’m still experimenting, but QZ now has a slot in my skill bar. For WvW, I’m using a Signet of the Beastmaster build with 30/20/0/0/20 (hybrid power/crit/BM) with these utilities:

• 1 – Signet of the Hunt – mostly for the movespeed, but I use the signet every now and then for a surprise spike.
• 2 – Signet of Stone – as my panic button.
• 3a – Signet of Renewal – used mainly for the stun break, as I use Healing Spring for my condition removal.
• 3b – Lightning Reflexes – shorter cooldown and a disengage. I’ve been swapping between this and SoR, and it’s really a toss up. Sometimes I prefer passive cleanse, sometimes i want a disengage.

With QZ now being a stun breaker, I can actually replace SoR with it. I’ve had good success in WvW, except for the part that I still have muscle memory of popping QZ when doing a (4)-3-5-2 rotation on my longbow. (The pushback attack is situational).

QZ adds quite a bit of damage that most people are unprepared for and I’ve gotten just a tiny bit more mileage out of Barrage because of it. I’m gonna experiment more if it’s better than LR, but I still really like LR as a defensive cooldown when I already popped my SoS.

LR is much better cause it gives you vigor. Obviously stun breaker is needed for crappy situations and you need more endurance rather than loosing the ability to heal for 5 sec.

So now if your a ranger and you want to do some decent damage you have to go GS with your build?
Shouldnt all weapon sets be viable for the class? Isnt that what Anet preaches? What about the players that like using longbow?

According to Durzlla they are just fine with LB

Durzlla.6295:

Chopps.5047:

This is a thread for remarking on the positive changes rangers have and the builds they enable. Please, no whining or moaning on this thread—if you want to do that, go on one of the many QQ threads you can find on the forum.

So we got greatsword cooldown reductions and a stun break on QZ. Tell me why I should stop running conditions in pvp and give me a build to test. Or brag about the new Awesome build you got. Or brag about how your build is even stronger with the buffs. Go!

Whelp, both my “Support kitten” and my LB condition build (i’m guarding this with my life) continue to work… and now my friends GS burst build is borderline OP, so i think we’re in a good spot…

I wonder if people are going to figure out that if you want to be a glass canon you should be relying on melee damage and not ranged damage anytime soon…

Can do more damage with ranged is prob why they use ranged weapons with the glass cannon builds.

Geshque.1326:

According to Durzlla they are just fine with LB

LOL ya, a longbow condition build. Nuff said.

Geshque.1326:

According to Durzlla they are just fine with LB

According to the dev team they’re fine with LB…. go watch the state of the game video… They say that “Longbow is in a good place, but the utilities aren’t defending the builds like it should.”

Ok, i am sure devs have any clue in this game after recent patches.

The longbow 1 is not fine and is clunky . Other abilities however are fine . Maybe Rapid Fire could use a slight execution time buff .

Chokolata.1870:

The longbow 1 is not fine and is clunky . Other abilities however are fine . Maybe Rapid Fire could use a slight execution time buff .

Yeah Longbow #1 needs a cripple or something tacked onto it to make it better, it does well on damage when you’re at max range… but in PvP you’re probably not going to be able to maintain the range you need to deal damage.. and then PvE, well there’s a lot of cramped rooms where you can’t even get to 1000+ away so your damage will just tank there anyway…

Durzlla.6295:

Geshque.1326:

According to Durzlla they are just fine with LB

According to the dev team they’re fine with LB…. go watch the state of the game video… They say that “Longbow is in a good place, but the utilities aren’t defending the builds like it should.”

Watched it “rangers are our long range masters MASTERS and potent skirmishers” then they humm and haw thru a few greatsword cooldown reductions and agony resist for pets.
Did you watch the whole video? How they go into great depth in disecting how the warrior needs a buff because if hes glass connon build condition damage hurts him too much so he needs a buff?
Or how they laughed off and didnt answer the team paradigm guys question about helping/fixing the OP thieves when it came to pvp?
This class is on the bottom of the list when it comes to fixing and they could care less what any of us say.

I just took down 2 groups 2day . First was a warrior and ranger , followed by a thief . Then it was a warrior + engineer at the same time . Smashed a mesmer not long after . Sometimes i am the one getting smashed . Ce’s la vie

I have always being using GS, so I will not complain^.^ I’m rather happy about it got a buff
Anyway, the pets agony resistance? It still doesn’t show in their attribute stats, so I guess I have to go in to FotM above lvl10 and check it out?

bigsal.7061:

Durzlla.6295:

Geshque.1326:

According to Durzlla they are just fine with LB

According to the dev team they’re fine with LB…. go watch the state of the game video… They say that “Longbow is in a good place, but the utilities aren’t defending the builds like it should.”

Watched it “rangers are our long range masters MASTERS and potent skirmishers” then they humm and haw thru a few greatsword cooldown reductions and agony resist for pets.
Did you watch the whole video? How they go into great depth in disecting how the warrior needs a buff because if hes glass connon build condition damage hurts him too much so he needs a buff?
Or how they laughed off and didnt answer the team paradigm guys question about helping/fixing the OP thieves when it came to pvp?
This class is on the bottom of the list when it comes to fixing and they could care less what any of us say.

Yes, i did watch the whole thing, why are you telling me that we’re on the bottom of the list for fixing? Am i saying we need fixes right now? No, i’m just saying that the devs said longbow is fine and that the thing we are lacking is our utilities… You know… like they said kittening 6 months ago.

Our utilities have been kitten compared to every other profs since Beta where we were running around at a kitten 16 skills instead of 20 like everyone else, not to mention all of ours were flat out worse than everyone elses.

You don’t need to tell -me- we’re not getting fixes anytime soon, i know this, make do with what you have and stop kittening about it.

Well Durzlla, here I will agree with you. Well said.

shrug my power/precision build really hasn’t changed that much, I’ve got videos pre and post patch and not really suffering much for the change.

Durzlla.6295:

bigsal.7061:

Durzlla.6295:

Geshque.1326:

According to Durzlla they are just fine with LB

According to the dev team they’re fine with LB…. go watch the state of the game video… They say that “Longbow is in a good place, but the utilities aren’t defending the builds like it should.”

Watched it “rangers are our long range masters MASTERS and potent skirmishers” then they humm and haw thru a few greatsword cooldown reductions and agony resist for pets.
Did you watch the whole video? How they go into great depth in disecting how the warrior needs a buff because if hes glass connon build condition damage hurts him too much so he needs a buff?
Or how they laughed off and didnt answer the team paradigm guys question about helping/fixing the OP thieves when it came to pvp?
This class is on the bottom of the list when it comes to fixing and they could care less what any of us say.

Yes, i did watch the whole thing, why are you telling me that we’re on the bottom of the list for fixing? Am i saying we need fixes right now? No, i’m just saying that the devs said longbow is fine and that the thing we are lacking is our utilities… You know… like they said kittening 6 months ago.

Our utilities have been kitten compared to every other profs since Beta where we were running around at a kitten 16 skills instead of 20 like everyone else, not to mention all of ours were flat out worse than everyone elses.

You don’t need to tell -me- we’re not getting fixes anytime soon, i know this, make do with what you have and stop kittening about it.

I mean, I agree, but I would have to say I am honestly afraid of how the game would be if there wasn’t a vocal community. The alternative could be a whole lot worse than what we have now.
ANet not having a consistent PR representative with the community is a bold move, I will give them that. They must all think of themselves as honey badgers.

As for telling the community to stop complaining, I wholeheartedly disagree given that this is a forum and one of a forums prime functions is provide players a place to give feedback.
Everybody is entitled to their opinion, and everybody paid $60 to be able to express that opinion. Nobody has a right to suppress anybody’s opinion except for possibly a forum mod on a code of conduct infringement.

Other than that, nobody is going to ever stop expressing themselves. Instead (and I realize I am asking the internet to be mature LOL) what we need to do is just simply agree to disagree on issues, stop trying to force our opinions on each others feedback, and do whatever it is we need to do to enjoy the product we paid for.

I’m just sticking to PvE with my Ranger. I’m not interested in playing a sword, trap, and/or bunker build. But I feel like those are the only viable options right now.

jcbroe.4329:

Durzlla.6295:

bigsal.7061:

Durzlla.6295:

Geshque.1326:

According to Durzlla they are just fine with LB

According to the dev team they’re fine with LB…. go watch the state of the game video… They say that “Longbow is in a good place, but the utilities aren’t defending the builds like it should.”

Watched it “rangers are our long range masters MASTERS and potent skirmishers” then they humm and haw thru a few greatsword cooldown reductions and agony resist for pets.
Did you watch the whole video? How they go into great depth in disecting how the warrior needs a buff because if hes glass connon build condition damage hurts him too much so he needs a buff?
Or how they laughed off and didnt answer the team paradigm guys question about helping/fixing the OP thieves when it came to pvp?
This class is on the bottom of the list when it comes to fixing and they could care less what any of us say.

Yes, i did watch the whole thing, why are you telling me that we’re on the bottom of the list for fixing? Am i saying we need fixes right now? No, i’m just saying that the devs said longbow is fine and that the thing we are lacking is our utilities… You know… like they said kittening 6 months ago.

Our utilities have been kitten compared to every other profs since Beta where we were running around at a kitten 16 skills instead of 20 like everyone else, not to mention all of ours were flat out worse than everyone elses.

You don’t need to tell -me- we’re not getting fixes anytime soon, i know this, make do with what you have and stop kittening about it.

I mean, I agree, but I would have to say I am honestly afraid of how the game would be if there wasn’t a vocal community. The alternative could be a whole lot worse than what we have now.
ANet not having a consistent PR representative with the community is a bold move, I will give them that. They must all think of themselves as honey badgers.

As for telling the community to stop complaining, I wholeheartedly disagree given that this is a forum and one of a forums prime functions is provide players a place to give feedback.
Everybody is entitled to their opinion, and everybody paid $60 to be able to express that opinion. Nobody has a right to suppress anybody’s opinion except for possibly a forum mod on a code of conduct infringement.

Other than that, nobody is going to ever stop expressing themselves. Instead (and I realize I am asking the internet to be mature LOL) what we need to do is just simply agree to disagree on issues, stop trying to force our opinions on each others feedback, and do whatever it is we need to do to enjoy the product we paid for.

Yeah, i’m not saying don’t comment saying “Yo, this stuff is broken and needs some love because it’s not doing its job.” but all this QQ my builds broken therefore all ranger DPS is total kitten blah blah blah, is just stupid and will certainly fall on deaf ears.

I mean, look at the engineer and the necro forums, they had worse issues than us and didn’t kitten nearly as poorly as this forum does and they now have fixes, maybe if we show some maturity we’ll be higher up on the list.

That and it’s not like we’re really -suffering- sure some builds don’t work, but the fact that condi longbow is actually working… dangerously well i might add, is kinda proof that we haven’t even scraped the surface of our prof and its possibilities.

i’m REALLY hoping the quickness nerf (not QZ nerf, that was a buff) will actually be the “last straw” for some of the vocal whiners so we can actually get some more productive posts here and not a ton of “Anets not getting my money!” or “QQ rangerz suckz!” posts anymore…

Necros and engis were not much worse than we are. But they got not only fixed but buffed. QZ was not a buff. Entire forum explained you why.

Geshque.1326:

Necros and engis were not much worse than we are. But they got not only fixed but buffed. QZ was not a buff. Entire forum explained you why.

They think it wasn’t buffed because quickness flat out got nerfed, -we- got a buff, idc how badly quickness got nerfed into the ground, the fact of the matter is it’s across the board, it’s a mechanic change not a nerf, we got a stun break added to our quickness skill though which is something we didn’t have before.

It was a buff.

I pity those who are still using longbow and saying it’s still viable. Hiding in zerg and hiding behind teammate in dungeon must be fun. Good thing I changed to GS build a looooooooooonnng time ago.

Geshque.1326:

Necros and engis were not much worse than we are. But they got not only fixed but buffed. QZ was not a buff. Entire forum explained you why.

They were so much worse.

To bad to hear that. If so – I am even more disappointed.

So just disregarding the game-wide change to quickness for a second, are people seriously suggesting that adding stun break and an increase in duration of zero healing when using what was one of our best offensive abilities is seen as a buff?

The Ranger has been hit hard with this change.

scanz.4536:

So just disregarding the game-wide change to quickness for a second, are people seriously suggesting that adding stun break and an increase in duration of zero healing when using what was one of our best offensive abilities is seen as a buff?

The Ranger has been hit hard with this change.

All quickness has a price, ours is the smallest, why would you pop your QZ if you plan on healing during that 5s? Maybe it’s because on my DPS builds I use HaO and not TU so I have literally 0 issue with the debuff.

I mean, you coul always… You know…. Dodge attacks/hide behind your pet during QZ… Or use it post heal so there’s not even the chance to it’ll kitten anything up.

Durzlla.6295:

All quickness has a price, ours is the smallest, why would you pop your QZ if you plan on healing during that 5s? Maybe it’s because on my DPS builds I use HaO and not TU so I have literally 0 issue with the debuff.

I mean, you coul always… You know…. Dodge attacks/hide behind your pet during QZ… Or use it post heal so there’s not even the chance to it’ll kitten anything up.

It has been given stun breaker, kind of implies you are under attack if you use it to break stun so it’s hardly ideal to have 5 seconds of zero healing at the same time. What was one of our best offensive abilities has now become something which could break stun and potentially have us killed immediately after. Good one ANet.

More on topic to the thread’s title though, I do look forward to seeing builds people switch to now as I will definitely have to change mine.

To someone above who asked if the community should or shouldn’t complain. Go read the rest of the class forums. Warriors apparently are all quiting because of the haste nerf. Thiefs are all quiting because of the haste and stealth nerf.

How is it possible that almost every class is upset in some way after each patch ? Some of the comments are very funny.

“I am quiting my Warrior. It is obvious the Devs all own Rangers.”
I am quiting my Ranger. It is obvious the devs all own Thiefs"
I am quiting my Thief. It is obvious the devs all own Warriors."

L
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Are there any viable non GS builds? Because I love kiting and don’t like being up in peoples’ faces. From what I am seeing the only option I have after the patch is a GS beast master build which isn’t my play style.

“New build possibilities”? Haven’t you paid attention, there are none. According to these forums, the class is now officially unplayable. Whoever invents Suicide Booths (<3 Futurama) is going to make a fortune off of MMO players.

Trap build bandge, trap build. Use the Shortbow and Longbow as your weapons, and you have a full ranged beast.

Durzlla.6295:

jcbroe.4329:

Durzlla.6295:

bigsal.7061:

Durzlla.6295:

Geshque.1326:

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I definitely understand, and sorry, literally half of that stuff wasn’t directed at you directly but really just branches off of what I started to respond with, and how I feel about general threads that try to discourage people from using a feedback system.

The issue comes from that even if people are successful with a class, if those people happen to be a small minority, the class SHOULD be considered an overall failure in terms of community reception and enjoyment.
Don’t get me wrong though, I’m not saying that the community doesn’t need to compromise on how they want to play. But there have been no concessions from the devs either to make the class feel any different or more versatile in the grand scheme of what it can accomplish since launch. It actually got worse over beta with the nerf to spirits.

On a more general, on an as it stands basis, people aren’t going to play ranger when they can play a thief or mesmer or warrior and instagib stuff, or play other classes defensively and reach a high DPS with survival that doesn’t depend on poor AI to do so much of its damage.
When there is a higher skill cap, playing at a higher level should result in more rewarding gameplay, like doing more damage than other classes. Other classes can do the same damage we do with much more reliable access to damage and CC to land that damage.
I think ranger might be the only class with no immobilize on any of the weapon skills, and when paired with having to have our pet hit people to maximize our damage output, it just doesn’t make any sense at all why ranger players have such poor access to CC (not pets, I’m talking specifically the player).

(again not directed at Durz)Yes, there are a lot of people that just want this to be another faceroll class. But there are people out there, including myself, who just see lots of places where things (not just ranger) are lacking, and could easily be fixed to make sense without breaking the game.

Simply put (and restated by me from time to time), ANet has dropped the ball on this game. If I could have my guild wars 1 ranger and the way it functions placed into guild wars 2, nobody would hear a thing out of me. But it is hard to comprehend how pets and pet synergy and skills and bow gameplay got worse with a sequel.

bandgeekdp.4651:

Are there any viable non GS builds? Because I love kiting and don’t like being up in peoples’ faces. From what I am seeing the only option I have after the patch is a GS beast master build which isn’t my play style.

You don’t have to be in peoples faces with a SB/GS. You can still kite with SB and pets. It’s nice to know that when you do actually have to melee now, that you can hit back pretty darn hard now. Then get back to kiting when CDs are up…or not.

Seriously, everyone should try another class. I got my Warrior to 80 yesterday. Went out roaming in WvW and came across a solo Ranger two different times. I got completely smoked. One was a great kiter and I barely got a hit on him. The other also kited but I got in more damage. Still lost.

Then I realized that most Warriors are fodder for my Ranger. I would estimate I win 80% of the time vs them…..and I am average at best. The grass isn’t always greener.

( I don’t include Mesmers or thiefs in that statement)

im running a signet build in WvW and you can hit really hard with maul now xDD (8k+), but best ranger signets have 90 sec+ cd traited :P.

Durzlla.6295:

It has been given stun breaker, kind of implies you are under attack if you use it to break stun so it’s hardly ideal to have 5 seconds of zero healing at the same time. What was one of our best offensive abilities has now become something which could break stun and potentially have us killed immediately after. Good one ANet.

Words of gold! Listen to this guy, someone who noticed what the real problem is now with QZ! The skill itself need a change, it should be made either offensive or defensive, combining both is a waste on the quick slot bar.

•Fixed a bug that caused several pieces of gear to not apply their bonus boon or condition durations.

Try a build where every condition has +100% duration or one condition has +160% duration… rare veggi pizza, traits, runes, giver’s weapons, sigils, etc.

I’m currently experimenting with a build in WvW where I have +90% cripple, +90% chill, and +70% all other conditions… and my pet has +50% conditions. Lots of AoE immobilizing, crippling, and chilling going on and every single one of those has reduced cooldown.

I have turned my ranger into a MF farmer! It fits the ranger skills!

All rare MF gear. axe+axe (2x MF sigil) change to GS at 25 stacks & LB (AoE).
Healing spring, Sick’em, Flame trap, Signet of the stone.
Traits: all of those buffing your pet!

Forzani.2584:

To someone above who asked if the community should or shouldn’t complain. Go read the rest of the class forums. Warriors apparently are all quiting because of the haste nerf. Thiefs are all quiting because of the haste and stealth nerf.

How is it possible that almost every class is upset in some way after each patch ? Some of the comments are very funny.

“I am quiting my Warrior. It is obvious the Devs all own Rangers.”
I am quiting my Ranger. It is obvious the devs all own Thiefs"
I am quiting my Thief. It is obvious the devs all own Warriors."

L
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You sir are kitten right, I must say!
The thing is if every class is considered as a weak one, there is no OP class

Why doesn’t anyone remember all that QQ about “Oh, thieves are always bursting me to death in one second?” or “Oh, dat frenzied 100b making warriors ibm4” ofc, quickness just needed to be nerfed. OK, then what did you expect? QZ should’ve left untouched? Yeah, sure guys. Maybe we should get a free_kill_skill on our F5?

Going back to my ranger: now that we have nerfed quickness we gained higher chances against those classes, or I’m missing something?

Chopps.5047:

This is a thread for remarking on the positive changes rangers have and the builds they enable. Please, no whining or moaning on this thread—if you want to do that, go on one of the many QQ threads you can find on the forum.

Chopps, you have no right to ask that “QQers” stay out your thread when you are front and center in everyone of theirs.

Just saying…

Since the now infamous Jon Peters’ statement, Rangers have received more nerfs than buffs while many of our abilities have remained broken/useless. That is simply factually undeniable.

Forzani.2584:

bandgeekdp.4651:

Are there any viable non GS builds? Because I love kiting and don’t like being up in peoples’ faces. From what I am seeing the only option I have after the patch is a GS beast master build which isn’t my play style.

You don’t have to be in peoples faces with a SB/GS. You can still kite with SB and pets. It’s nice to know that when you do actually have to melee now, that you can hit back pretty darn hard now. Then get back to kiting when CDs are up…or not.

Seriously, everyone should try another class. I got my Warrior to 80 yesterday. Went out roaming in WvW and came across a solo Ranger two different times. I got completely smoked. One was a great kiter and I barely got a hit on him. The other also kited but I got in more damage. Still lost.

Then I realized that most Warriors are fodder for my Ranger. I would estimate I win 80% of the time vs them…..and I am average at best. The grass isn’t always greener.

( I don’t include Mesmers or thiefs in that statement)

Yeah I tried it all rdy. Gs is really good I was trying the cat build in Spvp but it just isn’t a fun weapon for me. I want to be all ways out of melee range if i can help it.

bandgeekdp.4651:

Forzani.2584:

bandgeekdp.4651:

Are there any viable non GS builds? Because I love kiting and don’t like being up in peoples’ faces. From what I am seeing the only option I have after the patch is a GS beast master build which isn’t my play style.

You don’t have to be in peoples faces with a SB/GS. You can still kite with SB and pets. It’s nice to know that when you do actually have to melee now, that you can hit back pretty darn hard now. Then get back to kiting when CDs are up…or not.

Seriously, everyone should try another class. I got my Warrior to 80 yesterday. Went out roaming in WvW and came across a solo Ranger two different times. I got completely smoked. One was a great kiter and I barely got a hit on him. The other also kited but I got in more damage. Still lost.

Then I realized that most Warriors are fodder for my Ranger. I would estimate I win 80% of the time vs them…..and I am average at best. The grass isn’t always greener.

( I don’t include Mesmers or thiefs in that statement)

Yeah I tried it all rdy. Gs is really good I was trying the cat build in Spvp but it just isn’t a fun weapon for me. I want to be all ways out of melee range if i can help it.

If you only want to play ranged you will have to accept that you will do worse damage. It wouldn’t make sense if it wasn’t like that so whenever there would be the possibility to go into melee but you have 2 ranged weapons equipped you have to accept that you aren’t playing at 100% efficiency. This won’t and shouldn’t change.

Oh and with my own SB/GS build I am using SB atleast 60% of the time. However I am always ready to switch and Swoop in when I expect to be able to melee them for a few seconds.

Whoa, this thread got derailed quickly.

I have a question though, anyone played around with the new QZ yet?

When the patch came out, I was thinking of re-traiting and abandoning it but…it’s still not bad. Not as good as before, but still quite useful. I wanted to know how others feel.

EDIT: Also I am critting for 10k with Maul now, quite amusing.

Ursan.7846:

Whoa, this thread got derailed quickly.

I have a question though, anyone played around with the new QZ yet?

When the patch came out, I was thinking of re-traiting and abandoning it but…it’s still not bad. Not as good as before, but still quite useful. I wanted to know how others feel.

EDIT: Also I am critting for 10k with Maul now, quite amusing.

What build are you using? And gear?

Bailey.6892:

Ursan.7846:

Whoa, this thread got derailed quickly.

I have a question though, anyone played around with the new QZ yet?

When the patch came out, I was thinking of re-traiting and abandoning it but…it’s still not bad. Not as good as before, but still quite useful. I wanted to know how others feel.

EDIT: Also I am critting for 10k with Maul now, quite amusing.

What build are you using? And gear?

I used to be a zerkers, traited 20/25/10/0/15. 10 for the QZ CD reduction, and 15 for the pet swap reduction.

Now that quickness is nerfed, I’m looking very closely at that 20 points in wilderness and beastmastery that isn’t as important for me anymore if I do not use QZ.

But QZ is still somewhat useful. I was wondering what other’s experience with the new QZ is.

Ursan.7846:

I have a question though, anyone played around with the new QZ yet?

For me the jury is still out on QZ. Personally, if I’m in a situation where I’m stunned, I’m usually getting hammered. Preventing myself from healing for 5 seconds in that situation does not seem to me to be the best course of action (especially when the stun is going to last less).

Chopps.5047:

This is a thread for remarking on the positive changes rangers have and the builds they enable.

But there are no positive changes and there haven’t been positive changes in the last 6 months and there will never be positive changes?
This thread is pointless.