Guild Wars 2

Hey guys, I have a few questions about pet damage and traits affecting pets. First, the traits that give 30% more critical damage to pets and the trait that gives pets 30% more speed, do these actually work?

Finally, I’ve seen videos of ranger pets critting for 4k, but I cant seem to get that amount even with 30 BM and using a bird. How do you maximize pet damage?

Might from rampage as one probably.

AlexRD.7914:

Might from rampage as one probably.

and 25 stacks of vuln, my wolfs leap dealt a 5k crit :P

Yea I was thinking of RaO too. How about the traits?

skittlebob.4850:

Finally, I’ve seen videos of ranger pets critting for 4k, but I cant seem to get that amount even with 30 BM and using a bird. How do you maximize pet damage?

get lvl 80 :/

if you are already, than i think you havnt even looked into any of the skills to maximize its dmg or looked into the pets skills …

but a friendly Protip: Pet’s tooltips are sometimes horribly wrong, you have to test them out individually and ravens are by far the strongest birds, their F2’s deal about twice as much dmg than the other birds.

Personal record was 14k on a raven F2 attack (not showing as 14k as its an attack that hits twice, but it was about 7.5k+6.5k)

skittlebob.4850:

Hey guys, I have a few questions about pet damage and traits affecting pets. First, the traits that give 30% more critical damage to pets and the trait that gives pets 30% more speed, do these actually work?

Finally, I’ve seen videos of ranger pets critting for 4k, but I cant seem to get that amount even with 30 BM and using a bird. How do you maximize pet damage?

the traits definately work. u can see on golems in the mists. one of them walks around, so u can see how your pet is able to keep up with him with it on or off. and the 30% one works as well, u can test with the jaguar (all his hits from stealth are crits)

30% more critical damage works.

30% faster runspeed – nah, not really.

Also, are pets suppose to proc sigils on crit? Or is this a bug?

OGDeadHead.8326:

30% more critical damage works.

30% faster runspeed – nah, not really.

30% speed works, ive tested it last night. It doesnt stack with sigil of hunt or swiftness but if you have only pet 30% speed you can notice your pet moves faster!

kRiza krimos.1637:

OGDeadHead.8326:

30% more critical damage works.

30% faster runspeed – nah, not really.

30% speed works, ive tested it last night. It doesnt stack with sigil of hunt or swiftness but if you have only pet 30% speed you can notice your pet moves faster!

Correct to my experience.

kRiza krimos.1637:

OGDeadHead.8326:

30% more critical damage works.

30% faster runspeed – nah, not really.

30% speed works, ive tested it last night. It doesnt stack with sigil of hunt or swiftness but if you have only pet 30% speed you can notice your pet moves faster!

It moves faster, but according to the bug list, it’s not 30% faster but ~14%. May have been fixed at some point that I’m not aware of.

Rocklin.4106:

skittlebob.4850:

Finally, I’ve seen videos of ranger pets critting for 4k, but I cant seem to get that amount even with 30 BM and using a bird. How do you maximize pet damage?

get lvl 80 :/

if you are already, than i think you havnt even looked into any of the skills to maximize its dmg or looked into the pets skills …

but a friendly Protip: Pet’s tooltips are sometimes horribly wrong, you have to test them out individually and ravens are by far the strongest birds, their F2’s deal about twice as much dmg than the other birds.

Personal record was 14k on a raven F2 attack (not showing as 14k as its an attack that hits twice, but it was about 7.5k+6.5k)

I think that the strongest pet F2 skill is the Rending Barbs of Lashhtail Devourer , Am I right ?

OGDeadHead.8326:

kRiza krimos.1637:

OGDeadHead.8326:

30% more critical damage works.

30% faster runspeed – nah, not really.

30% speed works, ive tested it last night. It doesnt stack with sigil of hunt or swiftness but if you have only pet 30% speed you can notice your pet moves faster!

It moves faster, but according to the bug list, it’s not 30% faster but ~14%. May have been fixed at some point that I’m not aware of.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CUdm55oJWc

14th dec comes to my mind. =)

The Demonic Spirit.3157:

Rocklin.4106:

skittlebob.4850:

Finally, I’ve seen videos of ranger pets critting for 4k, but I cant seem to get that amount even with 30 BM and using a bird. How do you maximize pet damage?

get lvl 80 :/

if you are already, than i think you havnt even looked into any of the skills to maximize its dmg or looked into the pets skills …

but a friendly Protip: Pet’s tooltips are sometimes horribly wrong, you have to test them out individually and ravens are by far the strongest birds, their F2’s deal about twice as much dmg than the other birds.

Personal record was 14k on a raven F2 attack (not showing as 14k as its an attack that hits twice, but it was about 7.5k+6.5k)

I think that the strongest pet F2 skill is the Rending Barbs of Lashhtail Devourer , Am I right ?

THE Strongest is the salamander drakes Fire breath, however good luck getting that off in PvP… Highest i’ve hit hit with my salamanders breathe (i was downed and they were attempting to finish me so they didn’t move out of the way) was around 28k or so, granted that’s with 25 masters bond, 25 might and sick’em.

Durzlla.6295:

The Demonic Spirit.3157:

Rocklin.4106:

skittlebob.4850:

Finally, I’ve seen videos of ranger pets critting for 4k, but I cant seem to get that amount even with 30 BM and using a bird. How do you maximize pet damage?

get lvl 80 :/

if you are already, than i think you havnt even looked into any of the skills to maximize its dmg or looked into the pets skills …

but a friendly Protip: Pet’s tooltips are sometimes horribly wrong, you have to test them out individually and ravens are by far the strongest birds, their F2’s deal about twice as much dmg than the other birds.

Personal record was 14k on a raven F2 attack (not showing as 14k as its an attack that hits twice, but it was about 7.5k+6.5k)

I think that the strongest pet F2 skill is the Rending Barbs of Lashhtail Devourer , Am I right ?

THE Strongest is the salamander drakes Fire breath, however good luck getting that off in PvP… Highest i’ve hit hit with my salamanders breathe (i was downed and they were attempting to finish me so they didn’t move out of the way) was around 28k or so, granted that’s with 25 masters bond, 25 might and sick’em.

So salamander drake is the strongest amphibious / terrestrial pet , what about the strongest aquatic one The shark ?

The Demonic Spirit.3157:

Durzlla.6295:

The Demonic Spirit.3157:

Rocklin.4106:

skittlebob.4850:

Finally, I’ve seen videos of ranger pets critting for 4k, but I cant seem to get that amount even with 30 BM and using a bird. How do you maximize pet damage?

get lvl 80 :/

if you are already, than i think you havnt even looked into any of the skills to maximize its dmg or looked into the pets skills …

but a friendly Protip: Pet’s tooltips are sometimes horribly wrong, you have to test them out individually and ravens are by far the strongest birds, their F2’s deal about twice as much dmg than the other birds.

Personal record was 14k on a raven F2 attack (not showing as 14k as its an attack that hits twice, but it was about 7.5k+6.5k)

I think that the strongest pet F2 skill is the Rending Barbs of Lashhtail Devourer , Am I right ?

THE Strongest is the salamander drakes Fire breath, however good luck getting that off in PvP… Highest i’ve hit hit with my salamanders breathe (i was downed and they were attempting to finish me so they didn’t move out of the way) was around 28k or so, granted that’s with 25 masters bond, 25 might and sick’em.

So salamander drake is the strongest amphibious / terrestrial pet , what about the strongest aquatic one The shark ?

Blue and Rainbow Jellyfish can easily crit on F2 for more than 5k without might stacks with 30 BM. They provide aoe regeneration with water field and a smoke field to blind their target’s area. They’re just all around fantastic. Red Jellyfish is a viable option if you don’t have access to Rainbow, but its F2 doesn’t do as much damage.

But for normal “auto attack” damage, it would still be felines and birds right?

I am annoyed with birds in that they love casting the swiftness buff every time before attacking. I wished the casting animation was wayy shorter.

Yeah haha, they take too much time to attack, i think the swiftness shouldn’t need an animation.

Blue Jellyfish have the best F2 far as damage is concerned..On Land it’d be Raven probably and Jaguar to some extent.

If you just want a high dps pet underwater you have the cats of course, but also the Armored Fish who has much DPS then the Shark…That’s right..You’re thinking “But my sharks damage is amazing”…his actual attacks are just awful……the Armor Fish can constant crit for 2k+ kitten near every hit if you keep fury up… and he’s pretty much impossible to kill underwater.

Xsorus.2507:

Blue Jellyfish have the best F2 far as damage is concerned..On Land it’d be Raven probably and Jaguar to some extent.

If you just want a high dps pet underwater you have the cats of course, but also the Armored Fish who has much DPS then the Shark…That’s right..You’re thinking “But my sharks damage is amazing”…his actual attacks are just awful……the Armor Fish can constant crit for 2k+ kitten near every hit if you keep fury up… and he’s pretty much impossible to kill underwater.

Underwater Sharks rein supreme for damage, and on land the Salamander Drakes F2 puts everything else to shame especially once you start buffing it up. You give that shark malice training and those bleeds will SHRED the enemy, plus sharks have THE MOST power out of every pet in the game, there is NO pet that has as much power as they do, so you start buffing their power up more via might or MB and they become a total killing machine.

@Person higher up, auto attack wise, birds and felines do the highest damage, cats don’t have that great of BURST damage but my god do they deal a ton of damage constantly.

Leuca.5732:

The Demonic Spirit.3157:

Durzlla.6295:

The Demonic Spirit.3157:

Rocklin.4106:

skittlebob.4850:

Finally, I’ve seen videos of ranger pets critting for 4k, but I cant seem to get that amount even with 30 BM and using a bird. How do you maximize pet damage?

get lvl 80 :/

if you are already, than i think you havnt even looked into any of the skills to maximize its dmg or looked into the pets skills …

but a friendly Protip: Pet’s tooltips are sometimes horribly wrong, you have to test them out individually and ravens are by far the strongest birds, their F2’s deal about twice as much dmg than the other birds.

Personal record was 14k on a raven F2 attack (not showing as 14k as its an attack that hits twice, but it was about 7.5k+6.5k)

I think that the strongest pet F2 skill is the Rending Barbs of Lashhtail Devourer , Am I right ?

THE Strongest is the salamander drakes Fire breath, however good luck getting that off in PvP… Highest i’ve hit hit with my salamanders breathe (i was downed and they were attempting to finish me so they didn’t move out of the way) was around 28k or so, granted that’s with 25 masters bond, 25 might and sick’em.

So salamander drake is the strongest amphibious / terrestrial pet , what about the strongest aquatic one The shark ?

Blue and Rainbow Jellyfish can easily crit on F2 for more than 5k without might stacks with 30 BM. They provide aoe regeneration with water field and a smoke field to blind their target’s area. They’re just all around fantastic. Red Jellyfish is a viable option if you don’t have access to Rainbow, but its F2 doesn’t do as much damage.

I thought rainbow and blue jellyfish were the same, not rainbow and red… and jellyfish are awesome in all the utility they bring, salamander drakes kinda only have 2 attacks they can use atm because they’re bugged still… Underwater their F2 doesn’t deal nearly as much damage so it’s hard to try it since UW and Land are different beasts… but salamander drakes crit for 28k when buffed, they can do 5k no problem (especially when you take into account the 5s of burning), however it is a lot harder to hit with when compared to the jellyfish seeing as how the jelly fish has a full bubble around it where the salamander is a small cone.

Durzlla.6295:

Xsorus.2507:

Blue Jellyfish have the best F2 far as damage is concerned..On Land it’d be Raven probably and Jaguar to some extent.

If you just want a high dps pet underwater you have the cats of course, but also the Armored Fish who has much DPS then the Shark…That’s right..You’re thinking “But my sharks damage is amazing”…his actual attacks are just awful……the Armor Fish can constant crit for 2k+ kitten near every hit if you keep fury up… and he’s pretty much impossible to kill underwater.

Underwater Sharks rein supreme for damage, and on land the Salamander Drakes F2 puts everything else to shame especially once you start buffing it up. You give that shark malice training and those bleeds will SHRED the enemy, plus sharks have THE MOST power out of every pet in the game, there is NO pet that has as much power as they do, so you start buffing their power up more via might or MB and they become a total killing machine.

@Person higher up, auto attack wise, birds and felines do the highest damage, cats don’t have that great of BURST damage but my god do they deal a ton of damage constantly.

Ironically, Armor Fish’s auto attack does more damage even though it has less power. Its F2 is just garbage though.

Leuca.5732:

Durzlla.6295:

Xsorus.2507:

Blue Jellyfish have the best F2 far as damage is concerned..On Land it’d be Raven probably and Jaguar to some extent.

If you just want a high dps pet underwater you have the cats of course, but also the Armored Fish who has much DPS then the Shark…That’s right..You’re thinking “But my sharks damage is amazing”…his actual attacks are just awful……the Armor Fish can constant crit for 2k+ kitten near every hit if you keep fury up… and he’s pretty much impossible to kill underwater.

Underwater Sharks rein supreme for damage, and on land the Salamander Drakes F2 puts everything else to shame especially once you start buffing it up. You give that shark malice training and those bleeds will SHRED the enemy, plus sharks have THE MOST power out of every pet in the game, there is NO pet that has as much power as they do, so you start buffing their power up more via might or MB and they become a total killing machine.

@Person higher up, auto attack wise, birds and felines do the highest damage, cats don’t have that great of BURST damage but my god do they deal a ton of damage constantly.

Ironically, Armor Fish’s auto attack does more damage even though it has less power. Its F2 is just garbage though.

Sharks auto attack does less than armor fish to compensate for how much damage he does while F2 is active and with his charge.

Yea, the Power you get from Sharks is nice till you realize its Auto Attack is awful.

Armor Fish on the other hand, has less power, but its base auto attack hits hard

Xsorus.2507:

Yea, the Power you get from Sharks is nice till you realize its Auto Attack is awful.

Armor Fish on the other hand, has less power, but its base auto attack hits hard

My sharks charge takes a bunker guardian from full to 25% in one move… there is a specific reason as to why its auto attack is kitten xD

Also realize that every skill the shark uses other than the fear applies bleeding for 5s on auto and 10s per hit on charge, this is BEFORE the bleeding from the feeding frenzy skill btw.

It would be cool if we could assign our F2 pet skills by choosing a skill out of the current pet’s arsenal. I would love to put the swiftness buff on F2 for the black raven and put that super strong F2 on auto.

Of course it would be nice to shorten up/make instant those pet skills so their not always rooted in one place while using skills.

Durzlla.6295:

Leuca.5732:

Durzlla.6295:

Xsorus.2507:

Blue Jellyfish have the best F2 far as damage is concerned..On Land it’d be Raven probably and Jaguar to some extent.

If you just want a high dps pet underwater you have the cats of course, but also the Armored Fish who has much DPS then the Shark…That’s right..You’re thinking “But my sharks damage is amazing”…his actual attacks are just awful……the Armor Fish can constant crit for 2k+ kitten near every hit if you keep fury up… and he’s pretty much impossible to kill underwater.

Underwater Sharks rein supreme for damage, and on land the Salamander Drakes F2 puts everything else to shame especially once you start buffing it up. You give that shark malice training and those bleeds will SHRED the enemy, plus sharks have THE MOST power out of every pet in the game, there is NO pet that has as much power as they do, so you start buffing their power up more via might or MB and they become a total killing machine.

@Person higher up, auto attack wise, birds and felines do the highest damage, cats don’t have that great of BURST damage but my god do they deal a ton of damage constantly.

Ironically, Armor Fish’s auto attack does more damage even though it has less power. Its F2 is just garbage though.

Sharks auto attack does less than armor fish to compensate for how much damage he does while F2 is active and with his charge.

I guess it’s pointless to calculate for long-term damage done, but who do you think would win out over a period of 5 minutes?

Leuca.5732:

Durzlla.6295:

Leuca.5732:

Durzlla.6295:

Xsorus.2507:

Blue Jellyfish have the best F2 far as damage is concerned..On Land it’d be Raven probably and Jaguar to some extent.

If you just want a high dps pet underwater you have the cats of course, but also the Armored Fish who has much DPS then the Shark…That’s right..You’re thinking “But my sharks damage is amazing”…his actual attacks are just awful……the Armor Fish can constant crit for 2k+ kitten near every hit if you keep fury up… and he’s pretty much impossible to kill underwater.

Underwater Sharks rein supreme for damage, and on land the Salamander Drakes F2 puts everything else to shame especially once you start buffing it up. You give that shark malice training and those bleeds will SHRED the enemy, plus sharks have THE MOST power out of every pet in the game, there is NO pet that has as much power as they do, so you start buffing their power up more via might or MB and they become a total killing machine.

@Person higher up, auto attack wise, birds and felines do the highest damage, cats don’t have that great of BURST damage but my god do they deal a ton of damage constantly.

Ironically, Armor Fish’s auto attack does more damage even though it has less power. Its F2 is just garbage though.

Sharks auto attack does less than armor fish to compensate for how much damage he does while F2 is active and with his charge.

I guess it’s pointless to calculate for long-term damage done, but who do you think would win out over a period of 5 minutes?

Heals or no heals? If no heals probably the armor fish because he’s sturdier, if there was healing the shark would win because it’d give him enough survivability to not only outlast the armorfish but to also kill him long before 5mins is up.

Durzlla.6295:

Xsorus.2507:

Yea, the Power you get from Sharks is nice till you realize its Auto Attack is awful.

Armor Fish on the other hand, has less power, but its base auto attack hits hard

My sharks charge takes a bunker guardian from full to 25% in one move… there is a specific reason as to why its auto attack is kitten xD

Also realize that every skill the shark uses other than the fear applies bleeding for 5s on auto and 10s per hit on charge, this is BEFORE the bleeding from the feeding frenzy skill btw.

Ehh am i not seeing something on the Charge? It does pitiful damage, like 600…the base hit for Armor Fish is 1000, and will crit for 1500 (no masters bond)

I don’t know, if I had the choice between Shark and Armor, i’m using Armor, since i know my second pet is going to be Blue Jellyfish

Xsorus.2507:

Durzlla.6295:

Xsorus.2507:

Yea, the Power you get from Sharks is nice till you realize its Auto Attack is awful.

Armor Fish on the other hand, has less power, but its base auto attack hits hard

My sharks charge takes a bunker guardian from full to 25% in one move… there is a specific reason as to why its auto attack is kitten xD

Also realize that every skill the shark uses other than the fear applies bleeding for 5s on auto and 10s per hit on charge, this is BEFORE the bleeding from the feeding frenzy skill btw.

Ehh am i not seeing something on the Charge? It does pitiful damage, like 600…the base hit for Armor Fish is 1000, and will crit for 1500 (no masters bond)

I don’t know, if I had the choice between Shark and Armor, i’m using Armor, since i know my second pet is going to be Blue Jellyfish

Just went to heart of the mists, 30 pts BM + 10 points in WS for malicious training and 10pts in nature magic for boon duration +20pts in skirmishing for malicious training and pet speed against the heavy target dummy.

Shark killed the golem in 15.3s

Armor fish killed the golem in 18.2s.

The timer was started after the first hit (for shark it was started at the time he feared the dummy)

With no points spent AT ALL against the heavy target dummy it goes as follows:

Shark: 28.5s

Armor Fish: 26.8s

With Only 30 pts in BM (no major traits taken AT ALL)

Shark: 25.4 (this is after 10 tests, all of which the sharks second dash would completely miss the stationary golem so take this time with a mountain of salt because i didn’t want to keep doing more)

Armor Fish: 21.4

PS: NONE of these tests used the F2 abilities, had they the shark would have very quickly and easily skyrocketed ahead of the armor fish in every test.

PSS: The Armor Fish test was always completed after the sharks test
EDIT: Just realized that in the first test (in the list i gave) the armor fish had 3 stacks of might, so his time would have been slower than it was.