Guild Wars 2

Found this link on reddit http://pastebin.com/2rrFg9pS
which showed these trait changes, if they are true, what are all of your guys’ thoughts?

Ranger

“Protect Me”: This ability now breaks stuns.
Splitblade: Reduced the aftercast on this skill from .4 seconds to .2 seconds.
Path of Scars: Now pulls enemies on the return flight.
Long Range Shot: Reduced the aftercast on this skill from .5 seconds to .25 seconds. Increased arrow speed by 15%
Rapid Fire: Reduced initial cast time by .4 seconds. Increased arrow speed by 15%
Point Blank Shot: Increased arrow speed by 15%
Barrage: Increased cripple duration by 50%.
Muddy Terrain: Decreased the duration from 20s->10s. Increased cripple duration per pulse from 1s->2s. Decreased the cooldown from 30s->25s.
Lightning reflexes: travel distance has been halved underwater.
Man o war: 18 base recharge to 25
Counterstrike: 15 base recharge to 20
Swirling strike: .6 to .8
Crossfire: Range decreased to 900.
Poison Volley: Range decreased to 900
Quick Shot: Range decreased to 900. Damage increased by 14%.
Crippling Shot: Range decreased to 900. Damage increased by 14%.
Concussion shot: Range decreased to 900. Damage increased by 14%. Reduced the aftercast by .25 seconds.
Spirit activated skill range increased from 180 to 240 (360 when traited)
Call Lightning: Increased damage by 150%.
Solar Flare: Decreased the cast time from 1.7s to .5s.
Winter’s Bite: Reduced weakness duration to 3 seconds. Fixed a bug so that it now chills for the 3s (as listed in the tooltip) instead of 2s.
Enfeebling Roar: Reduced weakness duration to 8 seconds.

Pets
Armor Fish: Bite: Reduced damage by 50%.
Bird: Slash: Increased damage by 15%.
Eagle: Lacerating Slash: Reduced damage by 50%.
Raven: Blinding Slash: Reduced damage by 34%.
Canine: Bite: Reduced damage by 27%.
Devourer: Twin Darts: Reduced damage by 20%.
Drake: Bite: Reduced damage by 27%.
Drake: Lightning Breath: Reduced damage by 17%.
Feline: Maul: Reduced damage by 50%.
Jaguar: Stalking: Critical chance increase while in stealth reduced to 25%.
Jellyfish: Tentacle Slash: Increased damage by 50%.
Jellyfish Blue: Chilling Whirl: Decreased damage by 33%.
Moa: Peck: Reduced damage by 7%.
Pig: Jab: Reduced damage by 25%.
Shark: Bite: Increased damage by 10%.
Spider: Spit: Increased damage by 10%.

Beastmastery
Instinctual Bond: This trait has been swapped with Zephyr’s Speed. Quickness increased to 3s.
Stability Training: This trait now causes the pet to ignore the incoming crowd control skill as well as granting stability. This has a 10 second internal recharge.

Marksmanship
Keen Edge: This trait now activates when you strike a target that is below 50% health, instead of when your health reaches 75%.
Beastmasters Might: This trait now grants 3 stacks of might for 15 seconds.
Spotter: This trait has been increased from 70 precision to 150.

Nature Magic
Vigorous Spirits: This trait has been merged with Spiritual Knowledge.
Spiritual Knowledge: This trait has been moved to the Adept tier.
Evasive Purity: This trait has been moved to the Master tier.
New Grandmaster trait – Nature’s Voice: Shouts apply 10 seconds of regeneration and swiftness to allies in a 360 radius.

Skrimishing
Companion’s Might: This trait now grants 5 seconds of might to your pet, up from 1 second.

Not that pleased, honestly. Nerfing SB and pets in exchange for some LB buffs.. Eh.

Our traits dont really change that much either, 1 or 2 minor things but nothing game changing.

Longbow’s a lot better, Shortbow’s worse (though still better when in range). Support Rangers got a few nice buffs.

If this goes through, I’m changing my RRR build to 0/0/30/30/10 for the shout heals and more boon duration. SO MANY HEALS

The reason I believe these notes are legit is because they include several small fixes to problems most people weren’t even aware of. For example, outside the ranger community, who even realized that lightning reflexes had absurd range underwater? I imagine not many rangers even knew that the armor fish dealt a surprising amount of damage compared to a supposed “dps” pet like the shark. Some of these changes are very obscure yet reasonable.

Longbow’s not a lot better. The issue with it is it’s got no defense whatsoever and people can easily get in your face, gutting the damage. Firing a half damage projectile faster won’t fix anything. Rapidfire will still do terrible damage.

if this happens were kittened

Nah, these aren’t bad patch notes. It hurts bunker rangers and 111111 pew pew shortbow rangers a bit, but it’s not game breaking. Looking at the other stuff, longbow is getting some decent buffs (double cripple duration is no joke), the spirit tree is getting an overhaul (much needed, in a good way), and we will finally have a viable group build. Ranger shout regen/swiftness is amazing. Every 15 seconds along with a pet invisibility on “guard”, an aoe stun break on “protect me”, etc etc.

Also, rapid fire isn’t getting 50% damage reduction. Not sure where you’re looking Zenith. I might be missing something, but I’ve looked it over like 5 times.

Faux Sheaux.6179:

Nah, these aren’t bad patch notes. It hurts bunker rangers and 111111 pew pew shortbow rangers a bit, but it’s not game breaking. Looking at the other stuff, longbow is getting some decent buffs (double cripple duration is no joke), the spirit tree is getting an overhaul (much needed, in a good way), and we will finally have a viable group build. Ranger shout regen/swiftness is amazing. Every 15 seconds along with a pet invisibility on “guard”, an aoe stun break on “protect me”, etc etc.

Also, rapid fire isn’t getting 50% damage reduction. Not sure where you’re looking Zenith. I might be missing something, but I’ve looked it over like 5 times.

Ive waited for you at the SOAC man…I would really love to play with you…you said it right btw check this as a potential build for bringing dmg to pets
take these:
1.Stability Training:This trait now causes the pet to ignore the incoming crowd control skill as well as granting stability. This has a 10 second internal recharge.
2.Beastmasters Might: This trait now grants 3 stacks of might for 15 seconds.
3.Companion’s Might: This trait now grants 5 seconds of might to your pet, up from 1 second.
4.Fortifying Bond
5.Rampage as One

Who said 50% reduction? I said the skill will still do less damage than longbow auto at range. Its damage is still terrible for a 5 sec channel.

And you think 10 sec regen on useless shouts will help my team? Newsflash, guardians already give their groups swiftness, regen, 25 stacks of might, stability, retal, AND protection with shouts.

Regen and swiftness are about the worst boons in team fights. Protection and fury and stability are much better.

Faux Sheaux.6179:

Nah, these aren’t bad patch notes. It hurts bunker rangers and 111111 pew pew shortbow rangers a bit, but it’s not game breaking. Looking at the other stuff, longbow is getting some decent buffs (double cripple duration is no joke), the spirit tree is getting an overhaul (much needed, in a good way), and we will finally have a viable group build. Ranger shout regen/swiftness is amazing. Every 15 seconds along with a pet invisibility on “guard”, an aoe stun break on “protect me”, etc etc.

Also, rapid fire isn’t getting 50% damage reduction. Not sure where you’re looking Zenith. I might be missing something, but I’ve looked it over like 5 times.

Spirits still die in a sneeze, are a 60 sec cd, with no mobility. Good luck using them.

Lack of trait and utility notes which are the ones in most need…but then again it is “leaked”…

Regen is a terrible team boon since it takes the HPower of each individual team mate. So even if you spec HPower, you’re still not specced as a “Healer” as long as your team mates have poor HPower stats.

Dardamaniac.1295:

Faux Sheaux.6179:

Nah, these aren’t bad patch notes. It hurts bunker rangers and 111111 pew pew shortbow rangers a bit, but it’s not game breaking. Looking at the other stuff, longbow is getting some decent buffs (double cripple duration is no joke), the spirit tree is getting an overhaul (much needed, in a good way), and we will finally have a viable group build. Ranger shout regen/swiftness is amazing. Every 15 seconds along with a pet invisibility on “guard”, an aoe stun break on “protect me”, etc etc.

Also, rapid fire isn’t getting 50% damage reduction. Not sure where you’re looking Zenith. I might be missing something, but I’ve looked it over like 5 times.

Ive waited for you at the SOAC man…I would really love to play with you…you said it right btw check this as a potential build for bringing dmg to pets
take these:
1.Stability Training:This trait now causes the pet to ignore the incoming crowd control skill as well as granting stability. This has a 10 second internal recharge.
2.Beastmasters Might: This trait now grants 3 stacks of might for 15 seconds.
3.Companion’s Might: This trait now grants 5 seconds of might to your pet, up from 1 second.
4.Fortifying Bond
5.Rampage as One

Yeah, I had a few people really angry at me for leaving last second. I got off work early for it, was online for the party invite, and literally the moment I said hi to everyone, I got a text telling me to cover for the guy who was supposed to show up after me.

I’m two for two now on the SOAC tourneys, and not in a good way. Probably won’t register for them again until I’m done with this job since it has become so unreliable ;(

As for working on making pets dangerous, I’m looking forward to some of the unconventional hybrid builds people will come out with aside from the x/x/x/x/30. Assuming that these patch notes are legit.

SirJack.4760:

Regen is a terrible team boon since it takes the HPower of each individual team mate. So even if you spec HPower, you’re still not specced as a “Healer” as long as your team mates have poor HPower stats.

Regenerations applied use the healing power of whoever applied them. That’s why fern hounds will only heal you for the floor130 hp/s regardless of your healing power if they are untraited.

SirJack.4760:

Regen is a terrible team boon since it takes the HPower of each individual team mate. So even if you spec HPower, you’re still not specced as a “Healer” as long as your team mates have poor HPower stats.

Does it take into consideration your boon duration though? (I’m assuming it does).

If so, you can provide 100% uptime regen and swiftness for the entire team, which even without healing power, really helps a group of people (some regen is better than none, etc).

That’s huge, and with our Elite Spirit as well as access to the best water field in the game, rangers just became (assuming the list is accurate) one of the best utility healers in the game (similar to ritualists in guild wars 1).

Every kitten class with this patch got stronger with the exception of the elementalist. We got nerfs to our most viable weapons and sources of damage, while receiving no meaningful compensation. The alternatives are still garbage.

Great, now you’ll need more than 20 points into Nature Magic for your shouts to have some sort of use, as if you weren’t using signet of the hunt or weren’t running Dwayna runes or healing spring. Regen and swiftness from shouts is JUST what we needed.

And protect me is a terrible shout considering it gives you protection at the cost of halving your damage.

Faux Sheaux.6179:

SirJack.4760:

Regen is a terrible team boon since it takes the HPower of each individual team mate. So even if you spec HPower, you’re still not specced as a “Healer” as long as your team mates have poor HPower stats.

Regenerations applied use the healing power of whoever applied them. That’s why fern hounds will only heal you for the floor130 hp/s regardless of your healing power if they are untraited.

Odd. I tested this with Fern Hounds and Healing Spring. Both regens ticked for the same amount and I had an Apothecary set up.

Path of Scars: Now pulls enemies on the return flight.
You know how to do with it right ?

reduce SB to 900…man we need adap a lot it real hurt SB ranger.
LB look nice!And need to try more!!
Muddy Terrain YES!! I like it…
Keen Edge very interesting combo.But they fix CD bug yet?

(Ranger)Beastmasters Might: This trait now grants 3 stacks of might for 15 seconds.
Why our signet not merged 20%CD and gain3might like necro?

(Necro)Signet Mastery: This trait now recharges signets 20% faster and grants 3 stacks of might for 10 seconds on signet use.

I see a lot of might can gain from this patch.
RoA+Companion’s Might+Beastmasters Might+1Hsword.
Whoa our pet will go killing manchine?

New Grandmaster trait – Nature’s Voice: Shouts apply 10 seconds of regeneration and swiftness to allies in a 360 radius.
5PP or All of PP?

Necro mes thief boost a lot…

Ga spirit weapon look nice.
War a lot of unstopale killing triats.
Elm a lot of moving/swap traits and skill.
Engi no idea but they more better and better.

That’s exactly what we need. Anet nerfing the dps of the bad AI companion that serves as our pet. Which also count at about 30-50% of our total dps . Good going, Anet.

SirJack.4760:

Faux Sheaux.6179:

SirJack.4760:

Regen is a terrible team boon since it takes the HPower of each individual team mate. So even if you spec HPower, you’re still not specced as a “Healer” as long as your team mates have poor HPower stats.

Regenerations applied use the healing power of whoever applied them. That’s why fern hounds will only heal you for the floor130 hp/s regardless of your healing power if they are untraited.

Odd. I tested this with Fern Hounds and Healing Spring. Both regens ticked for the same amount and I had an Apothecary set up.

I’ll post a video later if you’d like showing regen ticks from various sources.

Lévis.5489:

That’s exactly what we need. Anet nerfing the dps of the bad AI companion that serves as our pet. Which also count at about 30-50% of our total dps . Good going, Anet.

This will probably give Anet an incentive to buff weapon skills.

Ahhh, who am I kidding? Anet has already proven not to care about Ranger damage all the way back in GW1.

Sarision.6347:

Lévis.5489:

That’s exactly what we need. Anet nerfing the dps of the bad AI companion that serves as our pet. Which also count at about 30-50% of our total dps . Good going, Anet.

This will probably give Anet an incentive to buff weapon skills.

Ahhh, who am I kidding? Anet has already proven not to care about Ranger damage all the way back in GW1.

Ranger was one of the best utility classes in the game in guild wars 1, being a major component of almost every single tournament composition due to the classes high avoidability through stances and capabilities of interrupting and disabling both offensive and defensive skills on the enemy team, which was imperative for both offense and defense on your team. A well timed interrupt could literally change the entire outcome of a game (hitting a Monks WoH for instance).

Unfortunately, guild wars 2 took out a lot of the utility mechanics that made guild wars 1 so great and opted for a more damage/mitigation gameplay, and the ranger hasn’t made the best of the transitions at this point in time yet.

It took about 2 years for the ranger to reach it’s full potential and be recognized for it in the first guild wars. Which sounds more bleak than positive, but still.

I have a feeling we are going to be seeing a lot more lb builds after this update

Meh, nothing looks that exciting.

Was looking for LB cripple, Ranger Crackshot and stun on LR and of course got none of it.

I hope for some undocumented changes, like:
- the family restriction removed from the master pet traits,
- the flanking restriction removed from the shortbow,
- the out-of-range pet restriction removed from the Signet of Renewal,
- the living pet restriction removed from the Signet of Renewal.
- the out-of-range pet restriction removed from Protect Me,
- Search & Rescue not going on cooldown when it’s not used,
- Search & Rescue causing the pet to instantly blink to the target,
- Pets gaining an evade on ranger dodge.
- Pets becoming immune to AoE damage in dungeons and fractals.
- Melee pets being able to attack the Elemental boss in the snow fractal.

That is one of the things that intrigues me about Anet and GW2. So many things are only discovered after digging deeper and doing testing.

It looks like they have done what many have suggested. Reduce pet damage and increase Ranger damage. At first glance though it appears the Pet damage reduction is greater than the increase in Ranger damage.

Time will tell

lol Im so glad after I made my ranger as my 1st toon, I decided to make a guardian and mesmer later, now my ranger is just for resource farming and guild missions…I really dont see the point to put my ranger into WvW instead of my guardian/mesmer… Barrage: Increased cripple duration by 50% is nice, this prob the only useful buff we got,auto attack and rapid fire still gonna be miss obstructed and out of range with no reason doesnt matter how much you improve the speed of arrow…but before they increase the damage on Barrage I dont see a point putting that on to a zerg full of retaliations…

Bad rangers need to play better
BM Rangers need to play alot better

Love these patch notes

Ryan.8367:

Bad rangers need to play better
BM Rangers need to play alot better

Love these patch notes

What do you love about them ? What is your playstyle ? PvE…PvP ..WvW (solo..small man…ZvZ ?) …….What type of build weapon sets ?

What is this…..I don’t even……Ok. Back to Mesmer. The Shortbow nerf was not needed! WTF is this madness? They took possibly the most under powered class in the game and made it….worse. Longbow is a terrible weapon and needs a complete overhaul, not some 15% projectile travel time increase. Again, back to my Mesmer that just 1,2,3,4,5 weapon swap, 1,2,3,4,5 most classes. Throw in a dodge or two and insta win.

where is a dev? huhuuuu is here a dev?

i can say you something about ranger future in pvp XD

you will see not any one use ranger in high ranked pvp in your lovely game in future…
you will see so much qq again about ranger to weak…

how you dont know your own game you super heros <3 karl you are here? :P

gj on this awesom much much MUCH new ranger builds we can play..

Zera.8907:

What is this…..I don’t even……Ok. Back to Mesmer. The Shortbow nerf was not needed! WTF is this madness? They took possibly the most under powered class in the game and made it….worse. Longbow is a terrible weapon and needs a complete overhaul, not some 15% projectile travel time increase. Again, back to my Mesmer that just 1,2,3,4,5 weapon swap, 1,2,3,4,5 most classes. Throw in a dodge or two and insta win.

I hope you know that you sound like “OHNOZ I cant facerall no mor! Back to facerall claz lolol”

Not that rangers were ever a faceroll in the first place.

@topic

I’m still skeptical about this “leaked” patch notes. I’ll believe it when it becomes official. If it were real, I can definitely see less BM builds and more LB power builds surfacing (which is kind of what we want, in terms of more viable builds). Spirit Rangers also seem to be more appealing now.

What I’m more concerned about is this:

• Instinctual Bond: This trait has been swapped with Zephyr’s Speed. Quickness increased to 3s.

Did they mean that Zephyr’s Speed is now a GM trait? O_O

jubskie.3152:

Zera.8907:

What is this…..I don’t even……Ok. Back to Mesmer. The Shortbow nerf was not needed! WTF is this madness? They took possibly the most under powered class in the game and made it….worse. Longbow is a terrible weapon and needs a complete overhaul, not some 15% projectile travel time increase. Again, back to my Mesmer that just 1,2,3,4,5 weapon swap, 1,2,3,4,5 most classes. Throw in a dodge or two and insta win.

I hope you know that you sound like “OHNOZ I cant facerall no mor! Back to facerall claz lolol”

Not that rangers were ever a faceroll in the first place.

@topic

I’m still skeptical about this “leaked” patch notes. I’ll believe it when it becomes official. If it were real, I can definitely see less BM builds and more LB power builds surfacing (which is kind of what we want, in terms of more viable builds). Spirit Rangers also seem to be more appealing now.

What I’m more concerned about is this:

• Instinctual Bond: This trait has been swapped with Zephyr’s Speed. Quickness increased to 3s.

Did they mean that Zephyr’s Speed is now a GM trait? O_O

Apparently :O seems a little drastic of a change.

I think the pet nerds were too hard and the ranger buffs didn’t go far enough.

Faux Sheaux.6179:

Dardamaniac.1295:

Faux Sheaux.6179:

Nah, these aren’t bad patch notes. It hurts bunker rangers and 111111 pew pew shortbow rangers a bit, but it’s not game breaking. Looking at the other stuff, longbow is getting some decent buffs (double cripple duration is no joke), the spirit tree is getting an overhaul (much needed, in a good way), and we will finally have a viable group build. Ranger shout regen/swiftness is amazing. Every 15 seconds along with a pet invisibility on “guard”, an aoe stun break on “protect me”, etc etc.

Also, rapid fire isn’t getting 50% damage reduction. Not sure where you’re looking Zenith. I might be missing something, but I’ve looked it over like 5 times.

Ive waited for you at the SOAC man…I would really love to play with you…you said it right btw check this as a potential build for bringing dmg to pets
take these:
1.Stability Training:This trait now causes the pet to ignore the incoming crowd control skill as well as granting stability. This has a 10 second internal recharge.
2.Beastmasters Might: This trait now grants 3 stacks of might for 15 seconds.
3.Companion’s Might: This trait now grants 5 seconds of might to your pet, up from 1 second.
4.Fortifying Bond
5.Rampage as One

Yeah, I had a few people really angry at me for leaving last second. I got off work early for it, was online for the party invite, and literally the moment I said hi to everyone, I got a text telling me to cover for the guy who was supposed to show up after me.

I’m two for two now on the SOAC tourneys, and not in a good way. Probably won’t register for them again until I’m done with this job since it has become so unreliable ;(

As for working on making pets dangerous, I’m looking forward to some of the unconventional hybrid builds people will come out with aside from the x/x/x/x/30. Assuming that these patch notes are legit.

All this is doing is making my build better. Soldier armor and runes 20/0/30/20/0, Spirits, Bird and devourer, GS/LB. This will just make my spirits and longbow better.

jcbroe.4329:

jubskie.3152:

What I’m more concerned about is this:

• Instinctual Bond: This trait has been swapped with Zephyr’s Speed. Quickness increased to 3s.

Did they mean that Zephyr’s Speed is now a GM trait? O_O

Apparently :O seems a little drastic of a change.

It is. If they were looking to give more build diversity, they’ll get it. I’m not gonna put 5 in BM for quickness on down for a pet with low dps They made DD505 less effective without the quickness. (not that it was required, but it was a really nice boost) Looks like we get to explore with that last 5 points now.

jubskie.3152:

jcbroe.4329:

jubskie.3152:

What I’m more concerned about is this:

• Instinctual Bond: This trait has been swapped with Zephyr’s Speed. Quickness increased to 3s.

Did they mean that Zephyr’s Speed is now a GM trait? O_O

Apparently :O seems a little drastic of a change.

It is. If they were looking to give more build diversity, they’ll get it. I’m not gonna put 5 in BM for quickness on down for a pet with low dps They made DD505 less effective without the quickness. (not that it was required, but it was a really nice boost) Looks like we get to explore with that last 5 points now.

I’m thinking like a sustain/crit tank now: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQNBjYDbEoqxuySxi1OQsKsn2DOZeMxekIGtIA-TsAA0CnIoSRljKDVSqsUNsYZxWEA

Valkyries can be switched for a Soldiers Amulet if this build were to go more bruiser style. I also considered sword/dagger as a more defensive option.

Assuming they’re correct:
The Axe OH sounds amazing and makes me even more depressed neither of our mainhands allow the type of freedom typical weapons do. On top of that as super thankful for any Longbow buff I can get I feel a lot of major core issues with the Ranger were not addressed at all. I love the class as always I just feel rather let down to be perfectly honest. I see a lot of really interesting changes to a lot of classes and you can sum ours up with:

Almost all Pets Nerfd
All Shortbow skills nerfd
Longbow buff (Although to what actual useful degree we’ll see)
Path of Scars buff

Where as I agree that the Shortbow should’ve been 900 range from the beginning and the pet nerf was probably warranted I don’t feel like we got all we should have out of this update at all. No super meaningful trait changes, only one awesome skill change, an entire weapon and class mechanic nerfed…personally almost completely disappointed despite the fact my favorite weapon got a buff. For a class that had one popular viable build in PvP and not really any meaningful group builds in WvW I don’t see much of any diversity coming from this.

Still no long-range support options.
Still no unique or useful party roles.

I want to love my class but I find myself loving it for one or two things and feeling completely mediocre if not useless about the rest.

Zenith.7301:

Longbow’s not a lot better. The issue with it is it’s got no defense whatsoever and people can easily get in your face, gutting the damage. Firing a half damage projectile faster won’t fix anything. Rapidfire will still do terrible damage.

Not sure about you… but even now Rapid Fire does 10k damage on its last hit usually for me….. sometimes more.

BenGrech.3912:

Zenith.7301:

Longbow’s not a lot better. The issue with it is it’s got no defense whatsoever and people can easily get in your face, gutting the damage. Firing a half damage projectile faster won’t fix anything. Rapidfire will still do terrible damage.

Not sure about you… but even now Rapid Fire does 10k damage on its last hit usually for me….. sometimes more.

I’m pretty sure that 10k is the sum of all arrows of Rapid Fire.

I use swap axe/axe for longbow depending on what I feel like using as my secondary weapon set (greatsword being primary), and I have to say that I’m kitten excited for both buffs if they’re true! Path of Scars already high damage and now a pull + Maul = tons of damage for me! =D

Sarision.6347:

BenGrech.3912:

Zenith.7301:

Longbow’s not a lot better. The issue with it is it’s got no defense whatsoever and people can easily get in your face, gutting the damage. Firing a half damage projectile faster won’t fix anything. Rapidfire will still do terrible damage.

Not sure about you… but even now Rapid Fire does 10k damage on its last hit usually for me….. sometimes more.

I’m pretty sure that 10k is the sum of all arrows of Rapid Fire.

It is.
Also, a majority of the people I personally encounter while on my Ranger are running heavy Def based builds because group play is very stressed and to be perfectly honest it drastically reduces the effectiveness of Rapidfire due to how the skill works and therefore the entire weapon. It’s rather depressing.

Sarision.6347:

BenGrech.3912:

Zenith.7301:

Longbow’s not a lot better. The issue with it is it’s got no defense whatsoever and people can easily get in your face, gutting the damage. Firing a half damage projectile faster won’t fix anything. Rapidfire will still do terrible damage.

Not sure about you… but even now Rapid Fire does 10k damage on its last hit usually for me….. sometimes more.

I’m pretty sure that 10k is the sum of all arrows of Rapid Fire.

I’m 200% sure that every channeled attack in this game, including rapid fire, has an additive, and not exponential, property. Meaning yes, it is the sum being displayed, but the actual damage can be seen in the battle log.

Setun.4368:

I use swap axe/axe for longbow depending on what I feel like using as my secondary weapon set (greatsword being primary), and I have to say that I’m kitten excited for both buffs if they’re true! Path of Scars already high damage and now a pull + Maul = tons of damage for me! =D

Yeah, I expect a ton of fun to ensue that’s for sure! I hope the skill functions very well and it is just unique enough to land us a wanted spot on teams.

inb4 fake notes and we’re all screwed.

jcbroe.4329:

It took about 2 years for the ranger to reach it’s full potential and be recognized for it in the first guild wars. Which sounds more bleak than positive, but still.

No it didn’t. Rangers were gods in pvp from day 1. Don’t you remember the cripshot build with distortion and storm chaser?

Anet failed rangers in gw2, unfortunately. Just like they did with mesmers.

Mada.5319:

jcbroe.4329:

It took about 2 years for the ranger to reach it’s full potential and be recognized for it in the first guild wars. Which sounds more bleak than positive, but still.

No it didn’t. Rangers were gods in pvp from day 1. Don’t you remember the cripshot build with distortion and storm chaser?

Anet failed rangers in gw2, unfortunately. Just like they did with mesmers.

I don’t know about gods, but we were indispensable CC/pressure units in most every balanced team.

The only real reason we ever got nerfs in pvp was because the devs got all kitten y over people succeeding with Ranger spike.

“Bird: Slash: Increased damage by 15%.”
For BMs instead of jag.

“Spider: Spit: Increased damage by 10%.”
Not big, but maybe viable option now for others?

What do you think?

About SB: tbh it’s good change. I mean, they shouldn’t nerf it, but 1200 range was just stupid for SHORT bow. Tho, they should compensate it more than dmg boost on skills that aren’t for dmg anyway…

Btw. any idea what:
“Long Range Shot: Reduced the aftercast on this skill from .5 seconds to .25 seconds. "
means? What is aftercast in this case?

Terkov.4138:

“Bird: Slash: Increased damage by 15%.”
For BMs instead of jag.

“Spider: Spit: Increased damage by 10%.”
Not big, but maybe viable option now for others?

What do you think?

About SB: tbh it’s good change. I mean, they shouldn’t nerf it, but 1200 range was just stupid for SHORT bow. Tho, they should compensate it more than dmg boost on skills that aren’t for dmg anyway…

Birds were used mostly for their bursty F2 skills (it can go up to a total of 4k-5k on full BM without other buffs), and not for their auto attack. Although, Bird auto was more reliable than the other pets because it hits twice and can go up to 3k if both hits crit. It might actually be an overall buff for birds.

Spiders are really bad direct damage dealers, I don’t think adding 10% to its auto is enough to change it. That said, I’d still use them regardless. An innate immobilize and poison field every 20 seconds are still really good skills.

@SB I agree :P

Personally, I’m more stoked about this change:

• Keen Edge: This trait now activates when you strike a target that is below 50% health, instead of when your health reaches 75%.

Can you imagine getting additional bleeds for dropping someone to half hp ? O_O I’m just curious if it has an internal cooldown and how it interacts with Barrage.

Not sure why everyone would be so hyped about the Path of Scars change, it hits you once and then you know its going to return making for a easy dodge. Or you know… just strafe.

if this notes are real i wont ever log in again, this is a joke for wvw players, buffing thieves while ignoring warriors and engis plus wrecking rangers…. this changes, if they come to life, are a nightmare!