Guild Wars 2

so does anyone else find it odd that long bows #1 attack doesn’t shoot more then 1 arrow even tho this class is supposed to be the most agile with a bow?

or that the #1 shots are soooooooo slow making the only reason that anyone would ever equip this weapon the #5 ability? It’s sad that a weapon is so useless that it only has 1 use.

Both the shortbow and the longbow have projectile speed problems, but the longbow is extremely noticeable. You can run in a straight line and dodge the longbow, hell you could probably sneeze and it would miss. It requires some slight strafing back and forth to dodge the shortbow.

I dont find it that strange, since a real longbow, shoots slower then a non longbow, plus its slow, and hit hard, compared to the shortbow, that has a fast attack, but deals less dmg/shot:)

daolor.4071:

I dont find it that strange, since a real longbow, shoots slower then a non longbow, plus its slow, and hit hard, compared to the shortbow, that has a fast attack, but deals less dmg/shot:)

Please don’t bring reality into a fantasy game, no one in reality can fire a short bow that fast and just to note a short bow has just as much penetrating power IRL as a longbow but a longbow has the range, it is all dependent on the type of bow and importantly the arrow used. They also have almost identical fire rates in the hands of a skilled user.

But none of this matters because it is a game and only takes the smallest amount of real life logic it needs for us to be able to relate.

Sang.3641:

daolor.4071:

I dont find it that strange, since a real longbow, shoots slower then a non longbow, plus its slow, and hit hard, compared to the shortbow, that has a fast attack, but deals less dmg/shot:)

Please don’t bring reality into a fantasy game, no one in reality can fire a short bow that fast and just to note a short bow has just as much penetrating power IRL as a longbow but a longbow has the range, it is all dependent on the type of bow and importantly the arrow used. They also have almost identical fire rates in the hands of a skilled user.

But none of this matters because it is a game and only takes the smallest amount of real life logic it needs for us to be able to relate.

People CAN fire bows that fast! Archery has been misunderstood for years http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zGnxeSbb3g

Kjeld.9730:

Sang.3641:

daolor.4071:

I dont find it that strange, since a real longbow, shoots slower then a non longbow, plus its slow, and hit hard, compared to the shortbow, that has a fast attack, but deals less dmg/shot:)

Please don’t bring reality into a fantasy game, no one in reality can fire a short bow that fast and just to note a short bow has just as much penetrating power IRL as a longbow but a longbow has the range, it is all dependent on the type of bow and importantly the arrow used. They also have almost identical fire rates in the hands of a skilled user.

But none of this matters because it is a game and only takes the smallest amount of real life logic it needs for us to be able to relate.

People CAN fire bows that fast! Archery has been misunderstood for years http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zGnxeSbb3g

Thank you and if we are going based on reality here, then the tiny bit of damage the #1 shot does on the longbow would definitely NOT account for the sheer speed of the arrow and thus the sheer damage that arrow would inflict that shooting so slowly would normally induce. It’s supposed to be a higher damage ratio it doesn’t come close imo.

Then again we are talking also about how two classes pistols shoot as slowly as rifles perhaps they need the help of some firearms and explosives experts to give them some perspective on just what should do what damage when. Because as an engineer, I find they have a long list of problems when it comes to how much damage is practical when it comes to weapons of war.

the attack rate is fine but projectile speed is a bit slow

Kjeld.9730:

People CAN fire bows that fast! Archery has been misunderstood for years http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zGnxeSbb3g

That was a pretty amazing video.

You just blew my mind sir.

Give pets AOE damage mitigation and we’ll call it a hat-trick.

Jon, I love you. MARRY ME.

This was one of the problems I never complained about because I didn’t think they would ever fix it… I can’t believe my eyes after reading John Peters post! Awesome news!

Omg Jon replied and confirmed 2 new things for rangers in one day. Praise the lord

oh my dear lord, am i dreaming?

JonPeters.5630:

You guys must be channeling some psychic powers this weekend. We agree arrows need to be a bit faster to make DPS against moving targets a bit more reliable. 12/14 can’t come soon enough. :P

Jon Peters you have been on a roll lately claps

Jon Jon Jon… I would slap you, but you’ve redeemed yourself.

Thanks for the communication.

Wow, Christmas is arriving early this year.

Not to rain on the party, I’m excited about Jon’s posts as well, but need I remind everyone about 11/15?

I’m still keeping my hopes up though.

11/15….never forget!!!

EvilDeath.6718:

11/15….never forget!!!

REDEMPTION

Yay! Do we also agree foraging via porcine should function like elementalist conjured weapons? By automatically adding the consumables to the hotbar as well as spawning one on the ground that only teammates can use?

EvilDeath.6718:

11/15….never forget!!!

I’m pretty sure Jon is smart enough not to do the same mistake twice in a row.

Lets be fair here. Last time, he promised “substantial” changes but nothing specific.

This however. He’s promising us specific things. If he doesn’t deliver…

I can wait for longbow to be more viable.

Yeah I’m still pretty pissed about 11/15. We better be op or something to make up for it till next patch.

John, I love you!!!

This is great news! Thank you Jon!

best red posts ever this week!

This patch keeps looking better and better. What’s next? Flying Asuras in airships?

JonPeters.5630:

You guys must be channeling some psychic powers this weekend. We agree arrows need to be a bit faster to make DPS against moving targets a bit more reliable. 12/14 can’t come soon enough. :P

its just…. such a shame we only get to enjoy it for 7 days before the world ends…. such a shame

JonPeters.5630:

You guys must be channeling some psychic powers this weekend. We agree arrows need to be a bit faster to make DPS against moving targets a bit more reliable. 12/14 can’t come soon enough. :P

cripple, immobilize, stun, getting closer.. i hope you’re not throwing away an interesting mechanic

Now is this only go to up the projectile speed on just the longbow or for both bows? because even the shortbow suffers from projectile speed issues.

And what about the actual attack speed on the longbow?
And the unintentional nerf of QZ + crossfire? or intentional, you have yet to address it since you nerfed crossfire.

I don’t think OP even meant projectile speed.

Considering he said “you guys” addressing all the other people talking about projectile speed, yeah…

lol yes finally the long awaited buff

nerf the damage output for skill {1} on longbow and give it the same attack speed as the current shortbow {1} (and increase the shortbow’s {1} attack speed).

Not just LB but SB too really slow. imo SB norm speed sld be as fast as the current one + QZ, and the LB speed sld be as fast as the current SB speed. I dun care if they tone dwn the dmg. I just like to pew pew alil faster!

and also Jon mentioned ‘ARROWS’ which cld mean both LB and SB!? i think so, i hope so. pls dun let it be a troll patch this time….cant wait for 14th! XD

not surprised tbh, the current long bow fires at 1.25 rather than 0.75 as the tool tip states, to get a real feel for how it should be you can try the Warriors long bow, it fires at the proper 0.75 speed and feels fine.

I imagine they will take the longbow attack rate down to 0.50, then it will fire at 1.0 unless they fix the animation delay. If they go so far to reduce it too 0.25 then it would fire at 0.75 again unless they fix the dodgy animation.

Xolo.3580:

This patch keeps looking better and better. What’s next? Flying Asuras in airships?

I would definitely like to ability to pick up Asuras and throw them off of airships.

Don’t get too excited, we WERE let down before remember ?

JonPeters.5630:

You guys must be channeling some psychic powers this weekend. We agree arrows need to be a bit faster to make DPS against moving targets a bit more reliable. 12/14 can’t come soon enough. :P

Since you guys is fixing them why not proceed in fixing you know that underpower class like i dont know maybe “mesmer?”

12/14 ….please include these 2 changes at the very least. I’ll be such a happier camper.

Xenn.1420:

JonPeters.5630:

You guys must be channeling some psychic powers this weekend. We agree arrows need to be a bit faster to make DPS against moving targets a bit more reliable. 12/14 can’t come soon enough. :P

Since you guys is fixing them why not proceed in fixing you know that underpower class like i dont know maybe “mesmer?”

Underpowered class ? I clearly lol’d

Mesmer is one of the class with the highest skill cap, just gotta know how to play it.

Xenn.1420:

JonPeters.5630:

You guys must be channeling some psychic powers this weekend. We agree arrows need to be a bit faster to make DPS against moving targets a bit more reliable. 12/14 can’t come soon enough. :P

Since you guys is fixing them why not proceed in fixing you know that underpower class like i dont know maybe “mesmer?”

Mesmer has a few problems with general PvE, but that’s possibly the only time where that class is not overpowered. :P

So maybe now I can try the longbow again. I haven’t used one of those since…

This change is going to be huge. Depending on how it works, itt will up longbow dps by about 50% on some fights. I can’t wait!

By what Jon wrote, i believe he meant arrows projectile speed and not autoattack fire rate speed… i think many people missunderstood it…or i did :P

Xenn.1420:

JonPeters.5630:

You guys must be channeling some psychic powers this weekend. We agree arrows need to be a bit faster to make DPS against moving targets a bit more reliable. 12/14 can’t come soon enough. :P

Since you guys is fixing them why not proceed in fixing you know that underpower class like i dont know maybe “mesmer?”

Is this meant to be a joke? Posting in the ranger forum about another class being underpowered? :headscratch:

They’ve already addressed the issues people are having with mesmers, issues that are actually quite minor when compared to the ranger. What more do you want?

JonPeters.5630:

You guys must be channeling some psychic powers this weekend. We agree arrows need to be a bit faster to make DPS against moving targets a bit more reliable. 12/14 can’t come soon enough. :P

It’s either that we all have psychic powers or we’ve been asking for this kitten for months….

This had better not be another round of “Raise the expectations of the community only to crush them come patch day” …..

I hope they follow through, truth be told there are more issues other than Signet of the Hunt and Longbow speed that require addressing but after the nature of the last patches I will take ANYTHING positive directed at the class.

Sarlack.4096:

This had better not be another round of “Raise the expectations of the community only to crush them come patch day” …..

I hope they follow through, truth be told there are more issues other than Signet of the Hunt and Longbow speed that require addressing but after the nature of the last patches I will take ANYTHING positive directed at the class.

I agree. If those are the only 2 improvements it will still be better than the last 2 patches combined. I think the ranger community is in “believe it when we see it” mode due to what we saw with the last patch.