Guild Wars 2

For those who have extra characters close to the end of their personal story, remember that you get 5 scrolls of mentorship (same as scrolls of knowledge) when you finish.

Sarie.1630:

Step 1: Pop an Instant-20 Birthday scroll to get past all of the most intolerable parts of the NPE rubbish.

Step 2: Level normally until bored.

Step 3: Level Tomes.

This is probably what I will do. I was considering leveling normally, but after doing that with 10 toons, I’m done.

I hate the beginning levels, so popping the 20 scroll. Plenty of time to get familiar with the class between 20 and 30. Then if I am bored leveling, tomes to the end.

Gonna be a level 80 Revenant as soon as the Expansion goes live, if its possible lol. Just going to be a matter of whether or not, mechanically, I find it as fun as Engineer and stick with it, or delegate it to mule status like my other 7 toons XD

Lesse, I have six of those instant-level-20 scrolls, 260 tomes of knowledge, 5 tomes of mentorship, and 500 skill scrolls.

Gonna be 80 the moment I reach a bank.

Windsagio.1340:

People who speed level aren’t going to have as good a grip on the class, and especially not as good a grip on the more unusual skills.

That’s only true if you’re comparing a “natural” level 80 and a speed-leveled 80 while assuming they reached 80 at the same time; in this case if you spend 40 hours (completely arbitrary number here) leveling your Revenant to 80, I would have spent 40 hours playing with a level 80 Revenant with all of its traits and skills unlocked, so I would actually have a better grasp of the class than you would.

i’ll be “tomeing to 80”

Pandaman.4758:

Windsagio.1340:

People who speed level aren’t going to have as good a grip on the class, and especially not as good a grip on the more unusual skills.

That’s only true if you’re comparing a “natural” level 80 and a speed-leveled 80 while assuming they reached 80 at the same time; in this case if you spend 40 hours (completely arbitrary number here) leveling your Revenant to 80, I would have spent 40 hours playing with a level 80 Revenant with all of its traits and skills unlocked, so I would actually have a better grasp of the class than you would.

A very good point, missed by most people I think.

I disagree that you need to lvl slowly to learn class mechanics. Maybe some people do, but so much time is spent in the game at lvl 80 that it just doesn’t make sense to me to indulge in the NPE. The NPE is so bad and completely unnecessary so I will be skipping as much as I can. I have younger children playing the game that chafe at the NPE. Tell me again why they can’t learn skills until lvl 20?? All the feat points until lvl 80??

Most likely will be eating a lvl 20 scroll and tomes and taking the rev straight into EotM to lvl or the new WvW stuff.

definitely gonna use my tomes on the day it hits! lol.

8 lvl 80s say instant 80 revenant :p

Living story 2 episode 5 grants 5 tombs of knowledge

I should have enough Tomes to have her leveled to 80 by the time HOT comes out. So that is what I plan to do.

i think i’ll do a bit of both, partially because i can’t be assed to stack so many tomes, even though i play PvP daily. i have a necro that can “eat” those tomes for the revenant.

i’ll use one of my thousands of lv20 scrolls that refuse to stack, then whatever leftover tomes i have, and then go from there.

Most likely the long way, maybe use some tomes/skill scrolls/insta 20 to get them going.

Pifil.5193:

Pandaman.4758:

Windsagio.1340:

People who speed level aren’t going to have as good a grip on the class, and especially not as good a grip on the more unusual skills.

That’s only true if you’re comparing a “natural” level 80 and a speed-leveled 80 while assuming they reached 80 at the same time; in this case if you spend 40 hours (completely arbitrary number here) leveling your Revenant to 80, I would have spent 40 hours playing with a level 80 Revenant with all of its traits and skills unlocked, so I would actually have a better grasp of the class than you would.

A very good point, missed by most people I think.

This and the fact that I’ve done the npe with one toon to 80 and did not like it at all. I’ll be going instant 80 w/o question.

Depends on what they replace the leveling system with, I’m pretty much opposite of in love with having skills and other stuff locked out till certain levels. 3:

insta 80 and im already making acsended mats for the gear

I’m going to level up with tomes. I’m not going to level up with this broken NPE and especially out of order personal story with a deleted chunk of it. I don’t want to break my immersion even more.

I have enough books to insta lvl-80 him but i won’t. I did that with 2 other classes i had and it literally took all the fun out of them i barely play them.

Considering Revenant is something completely new to the game i want to take my time and have fun with him the normal way not the 2-click-maxlvl way.

I have the tomes to do it, but going to use them on my “grandfathered” guardian. The trait acquisition is just so much effort, I don’t see wasting good tomes that I earned in pvp on a character that still has to gather all those traits anyway. I will be scrolling to 20 because I’m fully mentally capable, can read and thus do not feel like being treated otherwise by the slow paced low level unlocks.

If they bring back the natural unlocking, I might reconsider because used to really love doing that =P

Additional Class Mechanics:
- Quantum incompatibility: Revenants can’t use Tomes of knowledge, XP scrolls, Skill Point Scrolls, XP boosters.
- “Dude, i didn’t come back just to make you a sammich”: Revenants can’t craft.

i’m actually going to be a bit different. i’m going to first make a ‘dummy’ revenant, so that i can play around with it and ultimately pick a playstyle i’m comfortable with then delete it and make my ‘actual’ revenant, level it to 80 in the tutorial area and give him his ascended equipment (which will be crafted after i pick how he’s going to play – I already have all of the components sitting around) as well as any trait tomes he may need if they’re still around.

cafard.8953:

Additional Class Mechanics:
- Quantum incompatibility: Revenants can’t use Tomes of knowledge, XP scrolls, Skill Point Scrolls, XP boosters.
- “Dude, i didn’t come back just to make you a sammich”: Revenants can’t craft.

that would be extremely trollish ^^

although I have still no idea what to do with all hose insta-level-20 scrolls….

Lord Trejgon.2809:

cafard.8953:

Additional Class Mechanics:
- Quantum incompatibility: Revenants can’t use Tomes of knowledge, XP scrolls, Skill Point Scrolls, XP boosters.
- “Dude, i didn’t come back just to make you a sammich”: Revenants can’t craft.

that would be extremely trollish ^^

although I have still no idea what to do with all hose insta-level-20 scrolls….

I’d pay a kickstarter for Anet to introduce that. The fallout would be epic.

Lord Trejgon, use um to speed run the first two chapters of the living story to get a free key and free tier 1 cultural chest for achieves/wardrobe. At least, that’s what I do. Charr cultural atm (I’m so cheap, I won’t shell out a handful of sliver for t1 cultural when you can earn it ingame XD)

I used to enjoy levelling, but then I took a trait revamp to one knee and an NPE to the other. Instant 80 for me.

ill use the tomes, and will start with a revenant on lvl 80.
At the end of the day my main is the ranger and ill play all the new content and all the new story with him, not with the revenant.

I could have a lvl80 Revenant, but my guess is that I would rather begin to lvl a bit to get used to the gameplay, and once I’m bored, right to lvl80!

Coldtart.4785:

I used to enjoy levelling, but then I took a trait revamp to one knee and an NPE to the other. Instant 80 for me.

Remember the trait system (and maybe NPE) will be reworked by the time the expansion hits. That’s why I’ll give it a try ^^

I’ll be one to speed level it, the npe is a pain in the backside, and being able to finish what ever trials I need for the traits quickly. Something I noticed in the first page, is that people think by speed leveling you won’t get a grip of the class. This game isn’t difficult at all, playing it boils down to reading all the traits, reading your skills and getting used to said skills, and then forming your build with what you’ve done. So, no, speed leveling shouldn’t cause anyone issue with learning the class.

A Massive Headache.1879:

I’ll be one to speed level it, the npe is a pain in the backside, and being able to finish what ever trials I need for the traits quickly. Something I noticed in the first page, is that people think by speed leveling you won’t get a grip of the class. This game isn’t difficult at all, playing it boils down to reading all the traits, reading your skills and getting used to said skills, and then forming your build with what you’ve done. So, no, speed leveling shouldn’t cause anyone issue with learning the class.

^

In addition, getting to immediate level 80 gives you that much more time to get your traits in whatever new way ANet thinks up with the start of HoT.

I’m just hoping that the amount of insta-80 revenants doesn’t cause bad rep through inexperience with the class for dungeons/pvp/wvw.

As it stands for me, I’m going for mapping the starter zone to level 10, then bday scroll to 20, use every wep combination for 2-3 levels while mapping, at the end of every map I will tome to the nearest 5, e.g. if I am level 32, I will tome to 35, or if I am 36, I will tome to 40. Settle on 2 different weapon combinations at 60 (condi/zerk for example) and level to 80.

Though I will be sinking all my skill scrolls into the Revenant, cba with the trait scavenger hunt.

If I was going to level any of the existing characters I’d be looking to fast-track it, but I’m guessing there’s going to be a ton of people rolling new Revenants when they get released. I’m looking forward to the Revenant party as 100s of us descend on the starter zones! All Revenant runs of dungeons and world events, etc.

If I get tired of that then I’ll power through but to be honest I’m looking forward to it.

Not sure when I will create one, will look at what the other 8 proffs I have at 80 look like with specialization and go from there.
Will use the lvl 20 scroll anyway then see what happens.

Essence Snow.3194:

This and the fact that I’ve done the npe with one toon to 80 and did not like it at all. I’ll be going instant 80 w/o question.

I’ll wait and see what they do before I decide. I’d love it if they “fixed” the “fixes” they put in for the NPE: as in the mangled personal story, improve Trait acquisition and restore the Trait point distribution (one point every 5 levels starting at level 15 please so I can get a better feel for the profession earlier on) for this expansion. So I’ll try it when the expansion releases but if they make a bad job of it this time (especially the Trait revamp) I’ll skip to the end.

I have a bunch of scrolls and tomes stored up already and I have nine level 80s, including two guards, one under the NPE but thankfully created before the NPE was shipped so I had the Traits unlocked already so I’ve also “done my time” when it comes to levelling the traditional way.

Personaly, I do not enjoy leveling, so I will be using as many tomes as I can to skip as many levels as I can.

I like doing the story, I just hate levels. GW2 is not especially bad for leveling, I just hate levels in all games. I think they are an unnecessary and dull way of adding progression. The progression they are adding in HoT sounds, as far as I can tell, like the sort of progression I would prefer. A more interesting, more organic, more entertaining and more cherished form of progression.

So yeah, I will skip the numbers as much as possible so I can get on with the adventures.

well… ima just skip the darn leveling and then do my map exploration, heart questing and whatever else in peace on lvl 80. Its equally “challenging” afterall and i just cannot stomach the NPE to level anything the classic way anymore. On my first\main it was fun cause it was the very first and untainted way…as for any other char i made it was tainted..and with the NPE now its beyond saving….so my with tomes, level scrolls and writs of experience exploding bank will save the day. Same for traits.. ill buy em cause im not mental enough to earn them either.

Like pandaman said its going to be instant 80 for me! My tiny heart cant wait to experience all the new content with the revenant. Now to work on those tomes of knowledge…

I’m going to tome to 80 as well. I don’t know why everyone keeps insisting that this won’t give as good a grasp on the profession as if I were to level the normal way. I would have the same amount of time spent playing as the profession as the ‘slow’ levellers except I would also be practising with all the skills rather than a select few. I want to hit 80 then experience the new content on the new profession

I have 12 lv20 scroll and around 600 tome of knowledge.
There’s no reason not to use them right?

Instant 80, experience and skill with class comes over time – I don’t see the need for old skool leveling.

Dante.8456:

I’m going to tome to 80 as well. I don’t know why everyone keeps insisting that this won’t give as good a grasp on the profession as if I were to level the normal way. I would have the same amount of time spent playing as the profession as the ‘slow’ levellers except I would also be practising with all the skills rather than a select few. I want to hit 80 then experience the new content on the new profession

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Slow leveling is best for those learning the game. There is no real reason for veteran players to spend several levels learning the details of autoattack and not having even one utility skill till level 13. Imo, a veteran player will learn better with access to all skills to try out and learn.

Level 80 straight away as long as they don’t stop you using tomes.
Those people saying we wont be as well versed in the class as those that do it the traditional way obviously haven’t leveled a character in a while. Your skills/traits are severely limited as you level up, you wont be learning anything as you play with no traits and basic skills. The rest of us who hit 80 a.s.a.p will already be testing out skills/traits/utilities while you’re spamming 1 and 2!
Recently leveled a second ele and it was seriously tedious not having access to anything at all!

Honestly, before they changed the way leveling works, I would have loved to level legit, but now its just a pain in the kitten having to unlock all of the skills so slowly. It´s just no longer an enjoyable experience to me.
PvP until I got the tomes to play PvE without a lock on every effin skill.
Before it was a good pace of unlocking skills etc… If it aint broken, don´t fix it…

Snow.2048:

Lord Trejgon, use um to speed run the first two chapters of the living story to get a free key and free tier 1 cultural chest for achieves/wardrobe. At least, that’s what I do. Charr cultural atm (I’m so cheap, I won’t shell out a handful of sliver for t1 cultural when you can earn it ingame XD)

for that my friend I need at least one character slot more – as I’m not gonna delete any of my current chars ^^

Dante.8456:

I’m going to tome to 80 as well. I don’t know why everyone keeps insisting that this won’t give as good a grasp on the profession as if I were to level the normal way. I would have the same amount of time spent playing as the profession as the ‘slow’ levellers except I would also be practising with all the skills rather than a select few. I want to hit 80 then experience the new content on the new profession

- If you got a fully unlocked skillset you can easier see how skills work together

- At lvl 80 you got your char on full potential and can judge better what armor stats
and weapon stats\sets you wanna use

- The traitlines are fully available (minus the traits… but those can be bought)
so to experiment with a build that works for you is a lot easier

- To put a char into an lvl 80 area where you feel comfortable to experiment and work
on a build ensures that the build is most likely gonna work for you in the long run
rather then doing field tests in a low level area where most stuff falls over dead
alone with your presence. (I personally suggest arah story mode for said field tests.
You got your peace and the enemies and champs who protect the airship parts are quite capable to kill you if you dont know what you do with a new class…so perfect place for training. imo of course)

So yea.. i see no downside in starting off at lvl 80. To push some buttons and knowing the general concept of how you do guild wars2 in guild wars2 you should have already taken in…especially if you even got enough tomes to level a char straight to 80 and\or have several alts. Imo of course

me, i feel like i know the game enough to know what i’m doing so im gonna use one of my many leftover scrolls of exp and my tomes to get to 80. no point in going to maps that no one else goes to doing it the legit way when i can just insta level and save myself a headache

Hm, I was going to do the slow leveling, but I think I’ve just been convinced to do it the fast way instead lol

yeah such a massive headache going from 1 to 80 the right way… too many abandoned maps

Instant 80. After 13 or so level 80s of different builds and playstyles, I don’t imagine it would take me more than an hour or two to get the hang of this new class and have a playable build ready.

The problem with leveling the slow way, in my opinion, is that playing prelevel 80 is vastly different than playing a fully specced level 80 character and I’d like to avoid any nasty habits I might pick up by going slowly.

Normal way for me

Lord Trejgon.2809:

cafard.8953:

Additional Class Mechanics:
- Quantum incompatibility: Revenants can’t use Tomes of knowledge, XP scrolls, Skill Point Scrolls, XP boosters.
- “Dude, i didn’t come back just to make you a sammich”: Revenants can’t craft.

that would be extremely trollish ^^

although I have still no idea what to do with all hose insta-level-20 scrolls….

farm keys :S