Guild Wars 2

I’m just coming back after a 6 month absence (December would be the last time I logged in before yesterday). How have thieves fair in the interim? Is P/P still a waste of time?

I generally played a defensive build (0/0/30/25/15 S/D and SB), and mainly play WvW. Can anyone give me a brief on what I should know heading back in?

withdraw heals 20% more
Congrats, S/d has been buffed.
Steal/mug no longer crits and heals you everytime you mug (average 2k)
shadow return on infil strike has been “Fixed”

Good news on Withdraw, that was my go-to before!

I noticed the two parts of the #3 skill were split up, seems like a good idea.

What happened with Return? Is the range less than infinite now?

The range now properly matches the tool-tip since it has been bugged since pre-launch. Note that there are a large amount of Thief players who cry out that this was a blatant mega-over-the-top-WTF-Anet-nerf and not just a long overdue bugfix (a trait that it shared with the old Flanking Strike, which everybody hated).

the range is 1200 now. But the skill itself is SUPER buggy atm. You’ll know what I mean when you use it.

Sometimes you don’t get the return at all
Sometimes your return is only 100ish range.
If you use a skill back to back with it, and u pressed it too fast, u won’t get a return option.

My friend was battling on the bridge, he returned and he returned in the air. Lol he fell and died.. it was sad, infuriating, and hilarious

So this one time I shadow returned to a SR on mid (graveyard) from the tunnel area next to the enemy team’s base.
It ported me up ontop of the bridge.
o.O
Other times it just doesn’t work at all…

i feel for ya. Shadow return has become the most unreliable skill ever. It tones down the fast pace of infil strike. So kitten sad.

Jumper.9482:

So this one time I shadow returned to a SR on mid (graveyard) from the tunnel area next to the enemy team’s base.
It ported me up ontop of the bridge.
o.O
Other times it just doesn’t work at all…

I can’t lie, I have no idea what you’re describing. I’m not even sure if you’re talking sPvP/tPvP or WvW nor am I sure what you consider a base.

WonderfulCT.6278:

Jumper.9482:

So this one time I shadow returned to a SR on mid (graveyard) from the tunnel area next to the enemy team’s base.
It ported me up ontop of the bridge.
o.O
Other times it just doesn’t work at all…

I can’t lie, I have no idea what you’re describing. I’m not even sure if you’re talking sPvP/tPvP or WvW nor am I sure what you consider a base.

Sounds like he’s in Warsong Gulch.

Basically all skills have been reduced in damage, that pretty much sums it up.

WonderfulCT.6278:

I can’t lie, I have no idea what you’re describing. I’m not even sure if you’re talking sPvP/tPvP or WvW nor am I sure what you consider a base.

And I have no idea how one can’t recognize this as Legacy of the Foefire, GW2’s most iconic map.

Jumper.9482:

WonderfulCT.6278:

I can’t lie, I have no idea what you’re describing. I’m not even sure if you’re talking sPvP/tPvP or WvW nor am I sure what you consider a base.

And I have no idea how one can’t recognize this as Legacy of the Foefire, GW2’s most iconic map.

Man imagine if you ever met someone who has never played sPvP you’d have nothing in common .

Also how is it the most iconic map? I get you probably don’t play the rest of the game too much but based on what can you say it beats settings such as LA, CoF or even the 2 WvW maps? There are a bunch of maps in rotation in sPvP so its not as if you only play that one all the time (I hope) compared to WvW where you are always on the same 2 maps (all 3 borderlands are the same).

I don’t play sPvP myself too much and wasn’t trying to diss you (as crazy as that may seem), I honestly had no idea what you were trying to describe.

If you played the original Guild Wars, Foefire would probably be the most iconic map, as it closely mirrors the standard GvG maps from that game. And Guild Wars was all about GvG.

That being said, thanks for all the pointers, but I still wanna know if P/P is viable. I see Body Shot got upped to 5 stacks of vulnerability, so that seems nice. Granted, tomorrow I’ll just respec and play around with it, but still I like outside perspective. That, and I wanna play with a non-stealth build.

Nevermind, I just found this. https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/P-P-questions-new-guy-inside