CnD + Steal + backstab = working as intended?

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Posted by: Rinzler.8072

Rinzler.8072

Im a thief, im just wondering if queing up CnD before i steal is working as intended or is it an exploit?

I know it takes some good timing to pull off, but with the availability of peripherals that allow you to set it all up in a macro, seems a little powerful.

Thoughts?

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Posted by: Stiv.1820

Stiv.1820

It’s intended and backed up with Anet posts. Many professions can use this same mechanic.

This is not true, skills have a cast time and after cast based on the animation they use. To ease any thief worries we are not limiting back to back skill use on purpose. This is in fact the point of initiative and why thieves feel different than other professions.

just curious, are you happy with and is it your intention for moves with no cast time to be able to be used in the middle of a move with a cast time? For instance lightning flash during churning earth and steal during cloak and dagger.

Yes this is part of the design of the combat.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Thief-internal-CD-on-same-skill/first

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Posted by: Lofat.2406

Lofat.2406

It’s all in the timing. My warrior can sit there, bust a few singets, hit kill shot and crit for 20k from a distance with one shot. CnD + Steal + Backstab takes some good timing to pull off and land. Don’t think it’s an exploit.

P Sutton – 80 Warrior
Ferg Crossing

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Posted by: Rinzler.8072

Rinzler.8072

Anyone have a link from Anet? My searching skills sux.

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Posted by: Stiv.1820

Stiv.1820

Anyone have a link from Anet? My searching skills sux.

Added it ^^

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Posted by: Rinzler.8072

Rinzler.8072

Anyone have a link from Anet? My searching skills sux.

Added it ^^

Thx man.

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Posted by: Void.4239

Void.4239

its working like anet wants it to work. ( its more or less good timing to use it )
Ow on a side note you not allowed to use macros.. so no programming the timing without a good chance of getting banned.

anet has the 0 tolerance against macros users.

1 button press = 1 skill
1 button press = multiple skills in a row with macros = warning / ban

macros made with naga razer mouse and logitec gaming keyboards aren’t allowed
use at your own risk i would say. But don’t be surprised when a ban-wave comes and you are in it

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Posted by: Eduardo.4675

Eduardo.4675

its working like anet wants it to work. ( its more or less good timing to use it )
Ow on a side note you not allowed to use macros.. so no programming the timing without a good chance of getting banned.

anet has the 0 tolerance against macros users.

1 button press = 1 skill
1 button press = multiple skills in a row with macros = warning / ban

macros made with naga razer mouse and logitec gaming keyboards aren’t allowed
use at your own risk i would say. But don’t be surprised when a ban-wave comes and you are in it

“anet has the 0 tolerance against macros users.”

You gotta be kiding me. Its there everywhere. And frankly, the timing to pull of C&D+steal its the easiest thing on earth, why would one need a macro is beyond me. You can see it in streams. And videos posted here, too. The zero tolerance with any kind of macros, hacks, exploits, bots, etc, is non existant. A couple of days ago I received in my inbox, of THIS very same forum im writing, a message from a GOLD seller offering me their services. That is the extent of it. I made a post about it, which was promptly closed.
Professions like mesmers, eles and engies are prone to macroing, due to the nature of their combos. Mesmers had the widely known shatter macro. What did they do? They made shattering spaced in between clones. Brilliant, hiding their head in the sand. Eles, due to their cross attune combos, are prone to macroing too. And Engies. All f1-f4 profs can fall prey to this. Hackers are everywhere. Exploiters too (what exactly is an exploit? if the doors allow you to trespass with a glitch or teleport, is it the players fault?).
These things are the kind of things that bother me the most in this game, it basically downgrades the game to Call of Duty level. A curious thing about thief most common macro: the haste+heartseeker macro, after you go invis, where 1 button makes you do several heartseekers in a row while hasted, to make it glitch with invisibility, its that this will turn heartseeker into a chanelled skill, capable of following a thief in stealth, like ranger rapid fire. And what about the “travelseeker” macro, to work as auto run but better, back when you could swap weapons to avoid the initiative spending in heartseeker? Take a look at it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp_0oktrl3k
Funny, right? and watch this one, already posted here in theses forums:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbhdsF4oEI8&feature=youtu.be

Zero tolerance? Go WWW and watch in awe as players without swiftness travel faster than my perma swift thief with shortbow. They glitch everywhere. And lots of invisibilty too, without touching me with cloak and dagger. Highly enjoyable.
Am I being overly cinical ad critic? yes. I hate the lot of them cheaters. All pressure I can put to try to force some actions from Anet is still not enough. The absence of real actions and fixes like the mesmer fix only encourage this kind of population to continue to ruin the experience for all others.

Adapt or die. I never die.

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Posted by: Red Falcon.8257

Red Falcon.8257

Yes it officially is.

Most classes have these “spike combos” anyways.
Warrior: Frenzy>Bull>HB
Guardian: JI>MB>WA
Mesmer: Clone spam>Shatter
Ele: RTL+Updraft>BS>FB

But they are mostly cheese combos that work only on unaware targets or noobs.
Decent people and above just dodge or CD them.

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Posted by: Kurow.6973

Kurow.6973

MOST C&D+Steal MISS against moving targets, UNLESS you’re using some form of venom or boon/condition to make the target stationary (or near stationary).

There’s absolutely nothing wrong with this.

What I did find strange is the nerf to C&D damage in sPvP.