Guild Wars 2

That’s just not true.. D/P, S/P and S/D are all in a pretty viable place right now. Thief’s core that everyone takes: Shortbow off set, 10/30/0/0/30 with Shadowstep, Shadow Refuge, and often Lyssa runes – slap on pretty much any weapon and any 3rd utility of choice, and heal of choice, and go ham.

Even P/D with the meta thief build hits hard as hell with Shadow Strike & the Stealth Attack. Thief is doin’ fine.

S/D has an insane auto chain and LS hits for a boat load as well

Because the game is more than just 1v1s.

Reikou.7068:

Because the game is more than just 1v1s.

not for thieves

1 vs 1 with the Thief meta in sPvP is just stupid. Squishy liek that even a Bunker can hit hard. The meta builds aren’t made for 1 vs 1. You go on team fights and fast decaps when possible, not 1 vs 1

I’ve tried all thief-builds in spvp and tpvp appart of p/p and in my opinion s/p and s/d are way stronger than d/p in a turney with decent enemies.

Nah, everything is fine, D/P is just a little too strong.

a t s e.9614:

Yea S/P for team fights or quick burst on unaware people but I don’t see how S/D is viable though , it has no burst . Any type of warrior does higher damage than S/D

If we had a way of sharing stolen boons, it would be. S/d will prolly get nerfed again soon anyways, it being viable means OP to the community which is unacceptable. I wouldn’t be surprised if the coming months they make the only “viable” set p/p just to please the Q.Qers.

What have you been smoking? S/D still crushes pretty much any Power Build there is. Only Prerequisite is that the player actually needs to have some skills. S/P? Well lets not talk about that….

a t s e.9614:

Why there’s such a huge imbalance between sets with the thief, D/P is a good weapon set but the rest is terrible. Well S/P isint that bad but again its more for team fights rather than 1v1. I mean lets face it, D/D is pretty bad you miss 1 CnD and you’re dead, Im not even gonna talk about pistol, the damage cant even kill an Afk warrior with Healing signet, Whats left is S/D which still has a rather low DPS for such a squishy class.Whats the point of doing sustained damage on a thief?

So thats just my opinion , being pigeon holed into 1 build is extremly lame. Im mainly talking about Spvp by the way.

Sword dagger and Sword pistol are actually really good. Sword pistol is good in spvp and 1v1.

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Reikou.7068:

Because the game is more than just 1v1s.

not for thieves

There’s a reason every top GvG (or most) team runs a thief or two. Thieves have their place in zergs as well, it’s just not with the hammer train.

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Reikou.7068:

Because the game is more than just 1v1s.

not for thieves

A thief who is only doing 1v1 is not helping their team. Watch some streamed tournament games and count how many top end thieves are only doing 1v1 the whole game.

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Reikou.7068:

Because the game is more than just 1v1s.

not for thieves

I 1vX.

Also, thieves can be great for immobilization, vulnerability stacking, poison up time, aoe and single target dps.

a t s e.9614:

Why there’s such a huge imbalance between sets with the thief, D/P is a good weapon set but the rest is terrible. Well S/P isint that bad but again its more for team fights rather than 1v1. I mean lets face it, D/D is pretty bad you miss 1 CnD and you’re dead, Im not even gonna talk about pistol, the damage cant even kill an Afk warrior with Healing signet, Whats left is S/D which still has a rather low DPS for such a squishy class.Whats the point of doing sustained damage on a thief?

So thats just my opinion , being pigeon holed into 1 build is extremly lame. Im mainly talking about Spvp by the way.

This is all wrong.

Just because you don’t like the other weapon sets, or you’re not very good with them, doesn’t make them “terrible”.

I can play D/D and S/D equally as well as D/P (and D/P is extremely easy in my opinion).
This is a matter of opinion and not fact.

a t s e.9614:

Why there’s such a huge imbalance between sets with the thief, D/P is a good weapon set but the rest is terrible. Well S/P isint that bad but again its more for team fights rather than 1v1. I mean lets face it, D/D is pretty bad you miss 1 CnD and you’re dead, Im not even gonna talk about pistol, the damage cant even kill an Afk warrior with Healing signet, Whats left is S/D which still has a rather low DPS for such a squishy class.Whats the point of doing sustained damage on a thief?

So thats just my opinion , being pigeon holed into 1 build is extremly lame. Im mainly talking about Spvp by the way.

As a D/D Thief, I do perfectly fine playing against other people. I think you’ve just deluded yourself into thinking D/P is “fine” and that you are just skilled at the game. Sorry to burst your bubble, but D/P is about as cheesy as a build gets in this game (And there are some cheesy builds around).

lol ok, Im bad and D/P is OP, now show me a video of you beating a hambow warrior with D/D I wanna see that. You so pro!

a t s e.9614:

lol ok, Im bad and D/P is OP, now show me a video of you beating a hambow warrior with D/D I wanna see that. You so pro!

d/p isnt op, more like training wheels, once you learn how to you can use a real weapon set (condi builds are pretty much the same thing)

Using something that minimizes risk to yourself is not always “training wheels”.

If you aren’t good with a weapon set that doesn’t mean it’s bad. I consistently win 3v1’s with DD.

D/D and D/P has its own uses. At least for me D/D works much better when there are lots of targets around. D/P In those situations feels too clunky. Lately I started running D/P as offset to my D/D, although I rarely do more then 1 hs through same BP, unless I have really kitten up and have to rejuvenate. Basically D/P works better for melee opponents – warriors, guardians, other thieves by keeping them blinded as much as possible instead of “BP+HS+HS+HS+repeat and sit in stealth till full or even use your stealth uptime to reset fight and attack only when you see some target low on hp like a kitten that you are”.

http://youtu.be/MA_ELOqF-_4

Don’t know who this is, but he’s pretty good with d/d, and fought a few d/p and a greatsword/hammer war at the end

Inb4 “they all sucked”

a t s e.9614:

lol ok, Im bad and D/P is OP, now show me a video of you beating a hambow warrior with D/D I wanna see that. You so pro!

Did you ever hear about Cloaked in Shadows? They will miss so many hits… i wish i have better pc to make some videos.

I like the D/D playstyle more, but it bugs me that only 3/5 skills are truly useful. It partially comes down to a well played D/D doesn’t waste initiative on #3 & #4 while a well played D/P uses all of their skills appropriately. After running D/D for months, I recently switched back to D/P for the self and group utility (heal interrupts, blind stomps, blasting BPS with blinding powder on a downed teamate, etc).

I rather be a hated bad with D/P mostly winning than some respected prO mostly losing.

a t s e.9614:

FLiP.7680:

a t s e.9614:

lol ok, Im bad and D/P is OP, now show me a video of you beating a hambow warrior with D/D I wanna see that. You so pro!

Did you ever hear about Cloaked in Shadows? They will miss so many hits… i wish i have better pc to make some videos.

I dont use SA traitline, im using trickery 10/30/0/0/30.

Emm… you should realize that different weapon set might require different traits. While D/P has little to no use from cloaked in shadows d/d works very well with that trait.