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https://youtu.be/S4Gma01fplU?t=2m48s

Here’s hoping Arena net thinks twice about this.

And if that’s the name they’re sticking to. We’ll probably end up getting a torch.

“More likely”, or “leaked” does not equal confirmed (I see this everywhere and it bugs me). Some people think it alludes to Matthew Murdock as Daredevil in the Marvel series, when it’s also actually a legitimate word in the English language. I consider everything placeholder in nature until confirmed. This is how I feel about the name, as well as how I feel about our new weapon. I’m so burned out on everything that has to deal with HoT Thief speculation that I honestly don’t care what weapon we get anymore, let alone the elite specialization title.

Eh, i personally don’t mind the name though I can already see confusing DD for D/D and what not. Much like berserker for warrior. That is a little short-sighted. I just hope the line is good at the very least.

Haha, in that sense, you could abbreviate Berserker as BS Warrior (tee hee). Though it will probably default to ‘zerker’. I do agree DD and D/D are extremely similar and many can get confused in the differentiation. And I, too, also hope that the line is good as well. Although, given the track record of the Thief profession in the past and seeing where it is now. I’m extremely skeptical.

What’s in a name tbh. I didn’t like daredevil as a name all that much at first but it not being a total cliche name like ninja or acrobat is kind of nice. Wouldn’t mind the cliche names either lol. I’m not that picky I guess.

Well, at least it’s not just “Staff”… kinda like you know… the “Forge”….

Zero Day.2594:

Well, at least it’s not just “Staff”… kinda like you know… the “Forge”….

We like our “Forge”, thank you very much.

Daredevil fits perfectly. It’s a well thought out name, and frankly, I don’t see the fuss with name they are better than typical name such as “Berserker” , “Druid”. “Forge” is very original, So is “Tempest”, but let’s get down to the dictionary. the New Oxford Dictionary:

Thief : a person who steals another person’s property, especially by stealth and without using force or violence.

The Thief in GW2 does exactly what the dictionary says. Not using excessing force or violence, but rather excessing stealth.

Daredevil : a reckless person who enjoys doing dangerous things.

If we follow the same logic, the Daredevil is only the natural succession of the Thief. Except this time, the Thief turns increasingly reckless and actually enjoys doing crazy things.

Now what those crazy things are, we leave it to Arenanet to decide. Nevertheless the wording is undeniably accurate and well thought out.

Better than Assassin, or Rogue. Also stop talking about a American superhero character who shares the same name… Not everybody is into superheros and it doesn’t mean anything if they share the name…

Kocoff.7582:

Daredevil fits perfectly. It’s a well thought out name, and frankly, I don’t see the fuss with name they are better than typical name such as “Berserker” , “Druid”. “Forge” is very original, So is “Tempest”, but let’s get down to the dictionary. the New Oxford Dictionary:

Thief : a person who steals another person’s property, especially by stealth and without using force or violence.

The Thief in GW2 does exactly what the dictionary says. Not using excessing force or violence, but rather excessing stealth.

Daredevil : a reckless person who enjoys doing dangerous things.

If we follow the same logic, the Daredevil is only the natural succession of the Thief. Except this time, the Thief turns increasingly reckless and actually enjoys doing crazy things.

Now what those crazy things are, we leave it to Arenanet to decide. Nevertheless the wording is undeniably accurate and well thought out.

Better than Assassin, or Rogue. Also stop talking about a American superhero character who shares the same name… Not everybody is into superheros and it doesn’t mean anything if they share the name…

fair enough, though I’d personally prefer a more collected thief – the kind who thinks everything through, rather than the reckless kind.

Can someone tell/show me where it was CONFIRMED that the elite specialization is called Dare Devil?

TheMurkMuffin.8213:

Can someone tell/show me where it was CONFIRMED that the elite specialization is called Dare Devil?

it’s not been officially confirmed, but That_Shaman’s info is usually pretty solid.

the speculation on physicals isn’t from That_Shaman however, so it’s not as reliable.

Gray.9041:

Kocoff.7582:

Daredevil fits perfectly. It’s a well thought out name, and frankly, I don’t see the fuss with name they are better than typical name such as “Berserker” , “Druid”. “Forge” is very original, So is “Tempest”, but let’s get down to the dictionary. the New Oxford Dictionary:

Thief : a person who steals another person’s property, especially by stealth and without using force or violence.

The Thief in GW2 does exactly what the dictionary says. Not using excessing force or violence, but rather excessing stealth.

Daredevil : a reckless person who enjoys doing dangerous things.

If we follow the same logic, the Daredevil is only the natural succession of the Thief. Except this time, the Thief turns increasingly reckless and actually enjoys doing crazy things.

Now what those crazy things are, we leave it to Arenanet to decide. Nevertheless the wording is undeniably accurate and well thought out.

Better than Assassin, or Rogue. Also stop talking about a American superhero character who shares the same name… Not everybody is into superheros and it doesn’t mean anything if they share the name…

fair enough, though I’d personally prefer a more collected thief – the kind who thinks everything through, rather than the reckless kind.

Me too haha. Let’s just say we’ll get reckless kind who happens to think everything through :P

Daredevil is a staff user isnt he?

aspirine.6852:

Daredevil is a staff user isnt he?

it’s assumed so, given a number of files datamined by That_Shaman. that said, despite what other people say, I don’t see any similarities between the old datamined image and the newly datamined headgear. (not that there needs to be)

Taco Bell is currently Promoting the Thief Elite

http://www.tacobell.com/static_files/TacoBell/DD/dare-devil-loaded-grillers.html

“Dare Devil” is in the same silly boat with “Sneak Thief”

You just know who came up with that name, folks …
#HighConcept #PurityOfPistols

The worst part is: It’s probably going to be the reverse of how they did Dragonhunter … make a name that would be best as one word into two.

Advent.6193:

The worst part is: It’s probably going to be the reverse of how they did Dragonhunter … make a name that would be best as one word into two.

This. I’m absolutely fine with “Daredevil” as a name. It’s a good English word and it fits my devil-may-care swashbuckling con man thief to a T. It goes in line with all the professions having just one word. “Dare Devil” is not a word or phrase that currently exists. Though I suppose the etymology does, in that a daredevil is defying the devil to sabotage his or her crazy extreme sports.

Regardless, “Daredevil” flows much better and I don’t think Marvel has it copyrighted unless used in conjunction with a “DD” emblazoned red skintight suit with little nubbly devil horns and the name Matthew Murdock.

I wanted shield master where thief gets mainhand and offhand shields. The elite spec would focus on sPvP group utility though still have some uses outside of that.

Alternatively, crimemancer with a scepter would have been great for the same purposes, just without shield bash or pummel (like Batman’s pummel ability but with shields) for rapid multihit attacks. Crimemancer would have the same purpose as shield master but focus on thief summons. You’d have the burglar, who is big, strong, and tanky and dual wields pistols and dresses in all black with a skull cap, assassin who is a glass canon and dresses like a ninja with double katanas, back alley surgeon for heals, and generally has necromancer summons but in different styles and somewhat different utilities.

At the rate Thieves are going, the elite specialization name should be:

Handi Man

Advent.6193:

You just know who came up with that name, folks …
#HighConcept #PurityOfPistols

The worst part is: It’s probably going to be the reverse of how they did Dragonhunter … make a name that would be best as one word into two.

Aww no chill for him.

MrForz.1953:

Zero Day.2594:

Well, at least it’s not just “Staff”… kinda like you know… the “Forge”….

We like our “Forge”, thank you very much.

Do you like swords being put into and taken out of you? Because you know…. forges… make swords… yup.

Kocoff.7582:

Thief : a person who steals another person’s property, especially by stealth and without using force or violence.

The Thief in GW2 does exactly what the dictionary says. Not using excessing force or violence, but rather excessing stealth.

Daredevil : a reckless person who enjoys doing dangerous things.

If we follow the same logic, the Daredevil is only the natural succession of the Thief. Except this time, the Thief turns increasingly reckless and actually enjoys doing crazy things.

In that case, I think most sPvP thieves these days are already Daredevils… trying to fight without hiding in stealth :-P

I think I would prefer Assassin better. Hide in shadows until the perfect moment, then steal a life with one swift, clean stroke. It’s hardly forceful or violent at all ;-)

Kocoff.7582:

Daredevil fits perfectly. It’s a well thought out name, and frankly, I don’t see the fuss with name they are better than typical name such as “Berserker” , “Druid”. “Forge” is very original, So is “Tempest”, but let’s get down to the dictionary. the New Oxford Dictionary:

Thief : a person who steals another person’s property, especially by stealth and without using force or violence.

The Thief in GW2 does exactly what the dictionary says. Not using excessing force or violence, but rather excessing stealth.

Daredevil : a reckless person who enjoys doing dangerous things.

If we follow the same logic, the Daredevil is only the natural succession of the Thief. Except this time, the Thief turns increasingly reckless and actually enjoys doing crazy things.

Now what those crazy things are, we leave it to Arenanet to decide. Nevertheless the wording is undeniably accurate and well thought out.

Better than Assassin, or Rogue. Also stop talking about a American superhero character who shares the same name… Not everybody is into superheros and it doesn’t mean anything if they share the name…

Got to say I didn’t know it was an actual term in english.

Btw I’m watching the first season of Daredevil series and it looks really good, and I’m the type of Marvel fan who is hard to impress with screen representations of the heroes. If the Thief can fight like that I guess it’s ok (would’ve prefered a different weapon and specialization for my specific build, but this can be really cool).

Kocoff.7582:

Daredevil : a reckless person who enjoys doing dangerous things.

More accurately.

Daredevil : a Thief who was feared off a cliff.

Sir Vincent III.1286:

Kocoff.7582:

Daredevil : a reckless person who enjoys doing dangerous things.

More accurately.

Daredevil : a Thief who was feared off a cliff.

LOL come on man be positive.! you actually gave me an idea.

… but managed to hung onto to the edge of the cliff, as the curious necromancer got close to see the Daredevil’s smashed body at the bottom, the cunning trickster, with imaginable speed, latched onto his garment and pulled him down the abyss. “lel” says the Daredevil, “oh he must be mad” he adds. As the Thief brushes the dusts off his shoulder, h he notices a herd of necro minions and demons also blindly and mindlessly jumping off, after their doomed master.

Daredevil carelessly shrugs. vanishes towards his next victim.

THE END.

Kocoff.7582:

Sir Vincent III.1286:

Kocoff.7582:

Daredevil : a reckless person who enjoys doing dangerous things.

More accurately.

Daredevil : a Thief who was feared off a cliff.

LOL come on man be positive.! you actually gave me an idea.

… but managed to hung onto to the edge of the cliff, as the curious necromancer got close to see the Daredevil’s smashed body at the bottom, the cunning trickster, with imaginable speed, latched onto his garment and pulled him down the abyss. “lel” says the Daredevil, “oh he must be mad” he adds. As the Thief brushes the dusts off his shoulder, h he notices a herd of necro minions and demons also blindly and mindlessly jumping off, after their doomed master.

Daredevil carelessly shrugs. vanishes towards his next victim.

THE END.

I was actually comparing the daredevils who jumps off great heights as part of a thrilling experience, either from high cliffs towards a body of water below, or from top of tall buildings gliding down like flying squirrels or with parachute — meaning they jump off by choice.

Meanwhile, Thieves…you get the picture — nothing in Thief that catches what a daredevil is supposed to be.

Sir Vincent III.1286:

Kocoff.7582:

Sir Vincent III.1286:

Kocoff.7582:

Daredevil : a reckless person who enjoys doing dangerous things.

More accurately.

Daredevil : a Thief who was feared off a cliff.

LOL come on man be positive.! you actually gave me an idea.

… but managed to hung onto to the edge of the cliff, as the curious necromancer got close to see the Daredevil’s smashed body at the bottom, the cunning trickster, with imaginable speed, latched onto his garment and pulled him down the abyss. “lel” says the Daredevil, “oh he must be mad” he adds. As the Thief brushes the dusts off his shoulder, h he notices a herd of necro minions and demons also blindly and mindlessly jumping off, after their doomed master.

Daredevil carelessly shrugs. vanishes towards his next victim.

THE END.

I was actually comparing the daredevils who jumps off great heights as part of a thrilling experience, either from high cliffs towards a body of water below, or from top of tall buildings gliding down like flying squirrels or with parachute — meaning they jump off by choice.

Meanwhile, Thieves…you get the picture — nothing in Thief that catches what a daredevil is supposed to be.

You are right. The sense of risk in the Thief is inexistent. The Thief we play now is almost too comfortable in the shadows. I really hope the Daredevil is exactly what you and I talked about, a cunning rogue who genuinely enjoys doing life-threatening stunts for an end. I don’t want him to be like the Joker character, you know, psychopath looking. But I want the playstyle to be a excessively dangerous almost like gamble.

Like Shiro, the Mallyx playstyle with Revenant could’ve been a Thief Daredevil thing. But you know… is Revenant instead.

Amante.8109:

Like Shiro, the Mallyx playstyle with Revenant could’ve been a Thief Daredevil thing. But you know… is Revenant instead.

Daredevil don’t work on Thief just like Dragonhunter don’t work on Guardians. It’s bad naming choice that they should reiterate a couple of hundred more times before release.

The more I think about it the more “Commando” makes sense for the thief. Espionage with a “sniper” Rifle hitting legs (cripple) arms (to disable attack) , head (to stun) or chest (to knock back) / back (to knockdown). Adding torment, bleeding, poison to rifle attacks mixed with thief sneaky skills and you got a perfect secret agent.

P.S.—The Forgeman for the Engineer wielding a hammer is cool too.

I think Dare Devil is fine, just like I think people are way overreacting to the Dragonhunter name… because it’s just that: a name. Besides, it’s not like they named it “The Longbow Trapper.”

What’s making it sound more annoying is the fact that people keep relating it to the Marvel hero, Daredevil, as if Marvel Studios made up that term.

If they stick to it, I just hope they make it one word, seeing as it’s actually one word and not two. The flow of two words also just stinks in this case.

Would be cool to see a revealed-based spec come along, though. I had some cool rework ideas focused on maintaining revealed for effects like RT for the sake of skirmishing. Since kits as a class mechanic alteration/utility skills are still a possibility, I think it’d be neat to explore weapons that reveal on the use of the auto-attack for maintaining permanent bonuses to effects like RT, etc. for better skirmishing potential outside of stealth.

Kocoff.7582:

Daredevil fits perfectly. It’s a well thought out name, and frankly, I don’t see the fuss with name they are better than typical name such as “Berserker” , “Druid”. “Forge” is very original, So is “Tempest”, but let’s get down to the dictionary. the New Oxford Dictionary:

Thief : a person who steals another person’s property, especially by stealth and without using force or violence.

The Thief in GW2 does exactly what the dictionary says. Not using excessing force or violence, but rather excessing stealth.

Daredevil : a reckless person who enjoys doing dangerous things.

If we follow the same logic, the Daredevil is only the natural succession of the Thief. Except this time, the Thief turns increasingly reckless and actually enjoys doing crazy things.

Now what those crazy things are, we leave it to Arenanet to decide. Nevertheless the wording is undeniably accurate and well thought out.

Better than Assassin, or Rogue. Also stop talking about a American superhero character who shares the same name… Not everybody is into superheros and it doesn’t mean anything if they share the name…

Well put! I completely agree with you. Sometimes I am surprised by logical thinking on these forums. YOU HAVE NO PLACE HERE FOOL!

Sir Vincent III.1286:

“Dare Devil” is in the same silly boat with “Sneak Thief”

would be hilarious if sneak thief is the name of the spec

Not all bad but I can think of many better.

I would prefer Shadow Lord.

Of curse the spec itself would have to be known first before coming to a proper name.

In what world does daredevil not relate to class that has a trait line called acrobatics? Also one word verse two who cares Daredevil/Dare Devil sounds like a nitpicky, ocd, grammar kitten thing to care about.

Now when people are going to start calling them Double-D……..

Zero Day.2594:

Now when people are going to start calling them Double-D……..

Seabreeze.8437:

Zero Day.2594:

Now when people are going to start calling them Double-D……..

Lol too good.

Or Dee Dee…

To the people who keep saking for “assassin” and other “sneaky” specs.

I don’t think you understand the point of elite specs.

The base spec is already “the sneaky assassin spec” complete with teleport-to-gank-target utilities and f1, and near total reliance on stealth.

Asking for more of the same would be like asking for the Forge to be just another engineer that poops out stationary turrets and uses ranged attacks.

To the people looking for a more ranged focused/rifle spec:

I agree, but I think in terms of build diversity a melee sustain build is a bigger priority than a ranged DPS build given the current number of melee options versus ranged. A rifle build wouldn’t offer nearly as much build diversity in that small package, while holding off a ranged focused spekittenil next expansion where, say, they add another ranged option (throwing spears?) that also works on the base spec, would be better simply because at that point “commando” or “sniper” or “deadeye” would actually have multiple viable weapon choices in stead of being stuck with “use the spec weapon or suck”

Remember that elite specs aren’t about adding “one build” as much as they are about adding or reinforcing a playstyle. A melee sustain class, in the current game, actually adds a playstyle that can be used with multiple weapons, while a rifle-focused spec would possibly be too reliant on the player using rifle and only rifle.

IDICERI.4268:

Kocoff.7582:

Daredevil fits perfectly. It’s a well thought out name, and frankly, I don’t see the fuss with name they are better than typical name such as “Berserker” , “Druid”. “Forge” is very original, So is “Tempest”, but let’s get down to the dictionary. the New Oxford Dictionary:

Thief : a person who steals another person’s property, especially by stealth and without using force or violence.

The Thief in GW2 does exactly what the dictionary says. Not using excessing force or violence, but rather excessing stealth.

Daredevil : a reckless person who enjoys doing dangerous things.

If we follow the same logic, the Daredevil is only the natural succession of the Thief. Except this time, the Thief turns increasingly reckless and actually enjoys doing crazy things.

Now what those crazy things are, we leave it to Arenanet to decide. Nevertheless the wording is undeniably accurate and well thought out.

Better than Assassin, or Rogue. Also stop talking about a American superhero character who shares the same name… Not everybody is into superheros and it doesn’t mean anything if they share the name…

Well put! I completely agree with you. Sometimes I am surprised by logical thinking on these forums. YOU HAVE NO PLACE HERE FOOL!

lol somebody has to do it. We forget sometimes that dictionaries exist and we start drifting for no reason about a name.

We expect something similar to Marvel’s Daredevil.

What we will actually get: (Charr version included)

You think Dredevil is bad? what about Forge? kittenING FORGE!!

EnderKid.2567:

You think Dredevil is bad? what about Forge? kittenING FORGE!!

You mean this guy?

EDIT:
“My name is Forge. Building is what I do. But sometimes one must first destroy before one can create.”
— Forge

Forge is absolutely ok, its a god darn working trustworthy real profession, iits nothign different, than calling the class a Smith, Blacksmith, Whitesmith whatever.

Have you never played Ragnarok Online? There is a Base Profession, that is called simply Merchant, which had as Sub Class the Option to become Blacksmith, able to wield also Maces, Axes, Great Axes, Hammers, Shields…
the Engineer is by design pretty much very near to the whole design of that games class, only the Melee Fighting Components are missing.
Guess what was another Sub Class for them? Right.. the Mechanic, which was pretty much what the Engineer is

Forge is just a different word for Smith (but I’d call it practically rather Forger, to make a different between a Smith, that is the profession and a forge, that is used to smith and create something)
The Hammer is the weapon of a Smith…

However, such idiotic unfitting names, like Daredevil, Revenant, Tempest and most especially Dragonhunter imo have no place in this Game…

Berserker is awesome, but in my opinion by implementing the Berserker, should Anet rename the Berserker-Prefix Upgrade from Berserker to Barbaric or Brutal

The Reaper is currently so far the only fitting class name, that has in the game a LORE BACKGROUND that is fitting, but personally I’d rather see that class to be named the Occultist or the Marauder instead, because I think the game would be better not to have any lore based class names at all, but instead Elite Specializations, that do fit all to the theme and design of the Main Professions that resemble all names that look like and fit to trustworthy medieval fantasy professions, that could actually really be professions and not just some weird titles for practically everyone.

Professions, that feel unique, that give you the impression, than only you and your character’s history of profession career could become X and nobody else and that these Specializations provide unique gameplay Elements, that only these specializations can do and nobody else that are fundamentally gameplay changing.

But Dare Devil (aside from the not proper English again similar to the high conceptual Dragonhunter junk) is just immersion breakign same as much as like Tempest, Dragonhunter or Revenant and the Herald has absolutely nothing at all, that makes it feel like being a real propheting Herald.. its nothing but just a massive tanky boon spreader and nothing else….nothing real unique, what a good defensive Guardian already provides.

Sometimes is LESS much MUCH more and in regard of this saying, it owuld be much better for the whole game in my opinion, if all Class Names of the Elite Specializations would simply follow the same style and theme of naming, like all other professions, which means simply:

• No Lore Based Names
• No idiotic High Concept Names, that are used to insult the community for not understanding their backgrounds..cough DH, #neverforget
• All Class names have 1 Word Names that are easy to understand, which fit to the Design and Theme of the Main Profession and thus feel like right Elite-Specializations of them which follow their styles and not try to turn their origins by 180° into something totally different like wannabe 3 in 1 concept mixes of things, that don’t fit together, like the Dragonhunter tries to be at the same time a Witchhunter, Archer and Light Magic based Trapper with the Theme of an Wannabe Angel like GW1’s Paragon..just missing that they have also their Wannabe Bard Gameplay with hymns integrated >.> That would have been the most absurd top of the iceberg then…

You know, Elitw-Specializations like Chronomancer and beserker show it, that it functions, simple, easy understandable Elite-Specialization Names, that do fit perfectly to the Themes, Style and class designs of their Main Professions from which they originated from, without that they need to have total absurd unfitting names, which coulkd have come right of the mind of an like 5 year old child (the exception are lore based names, but lore based names are stupid, because they make professions like like, as if they would be something super special compared to a class name, that hasn’t any lore on which it is based on, thats why I absilutely dislike lore based class names, because they make people think their classes are some kind of special snowflakes)

Why do you think most MMORPGs out there always mostly always short and easy understandable class names, and don’t overwhelm peopel with super exotic junk just for the sake of havign something “unique”?
Because its much easier and better to identify yourself with a short termed and easy understandable class name, than with a long double worded exotic thing, that has its name it has only for the sake of soundign unique.

Calling the Elite Specialization of the Guardian instead of Dragonhunter an Inquisitor or a Seeker or a Warden instead, would be much more fitting, it would go alot easier over the tongue for everyone and it is an alot catchier name, than Dragonhunter, while at the same time giving you also the impression of beign a trustworthy profession with that you can identify yourself, instead of gettign a silly titulous name, that pretty much counts for everyone, like Dragonhunter or Daredevil…

A Daredevil is absolutely nothign special, everyone can be one, just like everyone and their mum can be a Dragonhunter…

I absolutely believe, that the Developers that are responsible for the Revenant, but more especially for the Tempest, Dragonhunter and now likely too Dare Devil absolutely lack in the understanding, of how fundamental it is for MMORPGs to provide catchy sounding short and easy understandable profession Names with that players are able to identify themself with, which are well known words and terms for practically everyone, instead of coming up with weird exotic word abominations like the dragonhunter or Dare Devil just to get sure, that there are some unique names under the list, that make sure, that they haven’t been found anywhere else before in a MMORPG’s sake, when in fact the there exist much better short and easy terms, which fulfill this exactly also too, without having to be such a word abomination.

I pretty much believe in it, that this is the sole purpose, why we get these idiotiuc names, because Anet/NCSOFT just wants to get sure only, that GW2 gets some unique names into the game, with that people should associate automatically GW2 with…

The other reason is, in regard of D, its a forced upon us all term, because we get Brahams motives bend on us, cause he wants revenge only for Eir and becomes a “Dragonhunter” and the whole suddenly implemented new faction around it is just retconned into the game to give that stuff a stupid reason for existance, or don’t you find it weird too, that these mystirious Dragonhunters now just pop up in masses out of a sudden when we go against Mordremothß
Where the hell was this faction please, when we went against Zhaitan???

Thats the problem with lore based and especially “high concept” classes, they will always create alot more problems, than they will solve any at all.
Its always best to go only with short and catchy generic sounding names.
Yes, that may be soundign for some people perhaps liek the more “boring” option.

But better more boring sounding generic names, with that you can easily identify yourself with, than lore based and high conceptual junk, which causes only problems in the lore, feels beign retconned into the game at worst case like the Dragonhunter and doesn’t let you really identify yourself withthem, because their names are so extreme titulous, that theres absolutely nothing unique about them, because you are just someone, who everybody else is in this game too.
This shouldn’t be the real goal of good class design, that you receive at the end the silly feeling, that your class is nothing special….

Orpheal.8263:

Sometimes is LESS much MUCH more and in regard of this saying, it owuld be much better for the whole game in my opinion, if all Class Names of the Elite Specializations would simply follow the same style and theme of naming, like all other professions, which means simply:

• No Lore Based Names
• No idiotic High Concept Names, that are used to insult the community for not understanding their backgrounds..cough DH, #neverforget
• All Class names have 1 Word Names that are easy to understand, which fit to the Design and Theme of the Main Profession and thus feel like right Elite-Specializations of them which follow their styles and not try to turn their origins by 180° into something totally different like wannabe 3 in 1 concept mixes of things, that don’t fit together, like the Dragonhunter tries to be at the same time a Witchhunter, Archer and Light Magic based Trapper with the Theme of an Wannabe Angel like GW1’s Paragon..just missing that they have also their Wannabe Bard Gameplay with hymns integrated >.> That would have been the most absurd top of the iceberg then…

People are still going off on that whole “high-concept” comment? It’s especially ironic because what you are asking for is actually for all elite specs to be high-concept. Simple, one-word profession names that are easy to understand are pretty much exactly what high-concept means.

When they said Dragonhunter was high concept, they weren’t trying to defend it against accusations that it was kind of a stupid name by claiming that the community just didn’t understand it, they were effectively agreeing that it was a very simple name without much nuance or subtlety and pointing out that some profession elite specs were named that way while others had more nuance like a Reaper (which will vary significantly based on your setting’s lore surrounding death).

glehmann.9586:

People are still going off on that whole “high-concept” comment? It’s especially ironic because what you are asking for is actually for all elite specs to be high-concept. Simple, one-word profession names that are easy to understand are pretty much exactly what high-concept means.

When they said Dragonhunter was high concept, they weren’t trying to defend it against accusations that it was kind of a stupid name by claiming that the community just didn’t understand it, they were effectively agreeing that it was a very simple name without much nuance or subtlety and pointing out that some profession elite specs were named that way while others had more nuance like a Reaper (which will vary significantly based on your setting’s lore surrounding death).

QFT. I feel like this “high-concept” backlash can be attributed to some people simply misinterpreting what Anet means by that.

I’m pretty sure, this “backlash” of which you speek pretty sure wouldn’t hold for so long and woukld be currently one of the biggets threads in the while forum, if it would be just only something about people misinterpreting Anets words.

The point is, the same person that is responsible for this huge DH backlash, is also responsbile for the Thief E-Spec… so its kind of naturally, that alot of people are right now very sceptical about the outcome of this E-Spec, esecailly for people like me, for whose class names are very important and play a big part for the general game immersion…

If there would be some kind of “Custom Class Name Display” as feature under the options, all of this would be an absolute non issue, but as long as these unfiting terms get forced upon us and there exists also the risk, that these silly terms get even used in the voice acting, there will always be people, which will cringe at names and terms, that will be immersion breaking for them personally