Guild Wars 2

all the money spent on ascended gear…. if i only knew this change was comming i wouldn’t have crafted entire set/bought new trinkets….:/

Dee Jay.2460:

Looks like my prediction was spot-on.

You definitely called it. I regret that I have but a single +1 to give.

Cynz.9437:

all the money spent on ascended gear…. if i only knew this change was comming i wouldn’t have crafted entire set/bought new trinkets….:/

They said zerker will still be the top dps set, don’t flush the news down the toilet so soon. We should of all seen this day coming, crit dmg is insane and is the center of speed runs in pve, hard to make inventive and fresh content when all it requires is quick killing.

Zero Day.2594:

Potato.7318:

But really dude, I spent 1 hour watching the stream just to hear them say they nerfed choking gas. They obviously haven’t spent enough time on balancing the thief. It seems like they only nerfed choking gas just because it was like the engineer’s poison field.

They’ve said i think multiple times that a lot of things were left out and will be included in the patch notes (supposedly good things for the thief). So… yeah aside from a nerf we will be getting random buffs… Traps/Hard-to-catch/Healing-power/venom random buffs…

also, for the choking gas:

Zero Day.2594:

Originally by: Otaur.9268

What: Condition Damage (Chocking gas and caltrops specifically) and Stealth
Why: I spammed shortbow poison aoe, caltrops, etc to apply conditions on foes in area and noticed I can pretty much kill both players and monsters without becoming “revealed.” This is getting more and more popular in WvW and it is rather unfair… But this is enough, please make any damage the thieves do in stealth apply revealed. Spamming conditions from stealth should reveal them.
Thread: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Condition-Damage-and-Stealth/first#post3225311

(Side note: Never mind the Mesmer’s clones…)

when is the last time we got somethign good. that wasnt almost immediately taken away

So, ascended gives 4.75% stats to zerk over exotic dps, and they are nerfing the overall dps by 10% to every zerk set.

Amazing, anet. You must be so proud of yourself.

Replacing a crit damage with a variable stat makes sense. It actually gives them the ability to tweak how it works over time, or in different situations (pve vs wvw). It makes min/maxers go mad because it’s more work to figure out exactly what it’s doing, but it makes sense from a balancing perspective.

snacktime.1082:

Replacing a crit damage with a variable stat makes sense. It actually gives them the ability to tweak how it works over time, or in different situations (pve vs wvw). It makes min/maxers go mad because it’s more work to figure out exactly what it’s doing, but it makes sense from a balancing perspective.

Replacing crit damage on gear with variable stat does make sense. However choosing Ferocity – Crit damage conversion ratio that will decrease current cit damage numbers does not. If you want to tweak down critical damage in pve w/o shafting it in www u add crit damage ressistance to mobs.

Travlane.5948:

Zero Day.2594:

Potato.7318:

But really dude, I spent 1 hour watching the stream just to hear them say they nerfed choking gas. They obviously haven’t spent enough time on balancing the thief. It seems like they only nerfed choking gas just because it was like the engineer’s poison field.

They’ve said i think multiple times that a lot of things were left out and will be included in the patch notes (supposedly good things for the thief). So… yeah aside from a nerf we will be getting random buffs… Traps/Hard-to-catch/Healing-power/venom random buffs…

also, for the choking gas:

Zero Day.2594:

Originally by: Otaur.9268

What: Condition Damage (Chocking gas and caltrops specifically) and Stealth
Why: I spammed shortbow poison aoe, caltrops, etc to apply conditions on foes in area and noticed I can pretty much kill both players and monsters without becoming “revealed.” This is getting more and more popular in WvW and it is rather unfair… But this is enough, please make any damage the thieves do in stealth apply revealed. Spamming conditions from stealth should reveal them.
Thread: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Condition-Damage-and-Stealth/first#post3225311

(Side note: Never mind the Mesmer’s clones…)

when is the last time we got somethign good. that wasnt almost immediately taken away

:| The MASSSIVE buff from last patch…

Karolis.4261:

snacktime.1082:

Replacing a crit damage with a variable stat makes sense. It actually gives them the ability to tweak how it works over time, or in different situations (pve vs wvw). It makes min/maxers go mad because it’s more work to figure out exactly what it’s doing, but it makes sense from a balancing perspective.

Replacing crit damage on gear with variable stat does make sense. However choosing Ferocity – Crit damage conversion ratio that will decrease current cit damage numbers does not. If you want to tweak down critical damage in pve w/o shafting it in www u add crit damage ressistance to mobs.

As a developer, I would not choose that route as a long term solution. Long term if you keep down that path, you wind up with any number of hard coded modifiers that are not easily changed, and have unintended side effects. I think Ferocity is the right approach. Using it to apply a reduction is debatable.

Karolis.4261:

snacktime.1082:

Replacing a crit damage with a variable stat makes sense. It actually gives them the ability to tweak how it works over time, or in different situations (pve vs wvw). It makes min/maxers go mad because it’s more work to figure out exactly what it’s doing, but it makes sense from a balancing perspective.

Replacing crit damage on gear with variable stat does make sense. However choosing Ferocity – Crit damage conversion ratio that will decrease current cit damage numbers does not. If you want to tweak down critical damage in pve w/o shafting it in www u add crit damage ressistance to mobs.

Or they couldn’t have simply increased mob armor instead of always increasing their health pool when they scale them. All of a sudden condis can burn through the high armor, small health pool as fast or faster than direct damage.

Karolis.4261:

snacktime.1082:

Replacing a crit damage with a variable stat makes sense. It actually gives them the ability to tweak how it works over time, or in different situations (pve vs wvw). It makes min/maxers go mad because it’s more work to figure out exactly what it’s doing, but it makes sense from a balancing perspective.

Replacing crit damage on gear with variable stat does make sense. However choosing Ferocity – Crit damage conversion ratio that will decrease current cit damage numbers does not. If you want to tweak down critical damage in pve w/o shafting it in www u add crit damage ressistance to mobs.

u should …right now…go make your resume updated and then send it to anet. they should hire u.

LoneWolfie.1852:

So, ascended gives 4.75% stats to zerk over exotic dps, and they are nerfing the overall dps by 10% to every zerk set.

Amazing, anet. You must be so proud of yourself.

Damage output is quite a bit more then +5% – berserker has three stats working towards the same goal and all three get a boost. And the crit damage got a disproportionately large boost on ascended.

frans.8092:

LoneWolfie.1852:

So, ascended gives 4.75% stats to zerk over exotic dps, and they are nerfing the overall dps by 10% to every zerk set.

Amazing, anet. You must be so proud of yourself.

Damage output is quite a bit more then +5% – berserker has three stats working towards the same goal and all three get a boost. And the crit damage got a disproportionately large boost on ascended.

there is a cap on crit dmg % you know right?

there also was no more % added only 1-5 power and +1-4 precision. def not more than 4.75%

do u have anything saying otherwise?

is +20 something pwoer and +18 ish precision = more than 5% extra dmg when you are int he 700 ish range on each? plus base stats and trait stats? LOL

Travlane.5948:

frans.8092:

LoneWolfie.1852:

So, ascended gives 4.75% stats to zerk over exotic dps, and they are nerfing the overall dps by 10% to every zerk set.

Amazing, anet. You must be so proud of yourself.

Damage output is quite a bit more then +5% – berserker has three stats working towards the same goal and all three get a boost. And the crit damage got a disproportionately large boost on ascended.

there is a cap on crit dmg % you know right?

No and no. Do you have a source that you’d want to share because I couldn’t find anything remotely definitive.

there also was no more % added only 1-5 power and +1-4 precision. def not more than 4.75%

do u have anything saying otherwise?

is +20 something pwoer and +18 ish precision = more than 5% extra dmg when you are int he 700 ish range on each? plus base stats and trait stats? LOL

Ascended berserker ring has 8% crit chance, exotic with ruby 6%, the other trinket all got +1% crit damage. Everything added up Ascended gear has 150 more power (220 with power infusions), 50 more precision and critical damage goes from +62% to +71%.

Why don’t you try and work out all the details on damage and crit damage and when it’s closer to your +5% then to +15% for full berserker ascended compared to full berserker exotic you come back, show me your calculations and I’ll redo mine if necessary.

NinjaEd.3946:

Cynz.9437:

all the money spent on ascended gear…. if i only knew this change was comming i wouldn’t have crafted entire set/bought new trinkets….:/

They said zerker will still be the top dps set, don’t flush the news down the toilet so soon. We should of all seen this day coming, crit dmg is insane and is the center of speed runs in pve, hard to make inventive and fresh content when all it requires is quick killing.

Doesn’t really matter. They just made condition damage 10% better compared to direct damage.

Gallows.4318:

NinjaEd.3946:

Cynz.9437:

all the money spent on ascended gear…. if i only knew this change was comming i wouldn’t have crafted entire set/bought new trinkets….:/

They said zerker will still be the top dps set, don’t flush the news down the toilet so soon. We should of all seen this day coming, crit dmg is insane and is the center of speed runs in pve, hard to make inventive and fresh content when all it requires is quick killing.

Doesn’t really matter. They just made condition damage 10% better compared to direct damage.

10% better P/D thief build, HA. Wish I say the brighter side of things but I rarely do, guess its a side affect for playing thief.

10% stronger condi engi necro ele warrior….. SHEET!