Guild Wars 2

Hey guys,

I’ve been doing some testing today on the dummies in the mists trying to figure out if rifle is the new highest DPS on Thief for things like Raiding.

I thought for sure P/P would beat it out with DE and just unload spam….but after testing I found this:

- I went all out for 40 seconds on the target with the same tree’s and skill for both. (40 seconds seems to be about the time both weapon sets run out of initiative)
- The only trait that aided one weapon and not the other was Snipers Cover, giving Rifle an extra 20% crit chance.
- No movement was done, which was likely beneficial towards rifle bias.

However, in just straight DPS race, rifle seemed to beat out P/P. With P/P averaging about 180K and Rifle averaging about 210K.

Without being able to use DPS meters it’s hard to get exact results, but had anyone else tried this out yet and if so what did you find?
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Luclinraider.2317:

However, in just straight DPS race, rifle seemed to beat out P/P. With P/P averaging about 180K and Rifle averaging about 210K.

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I think you have some flaws in your testing methods to get those numbers lol.

Sorry….I can see the confusion there.

These are the numbers that each weapon got within its 40 second timer.

Not it’s DPS lol…..that would be impressive :P.

You need to redo your tests.

P/P outdpses rifle currently…and they’re both bad.

did you have the same buffs/debuffs at all times? if not the numbers are useless

Asur.9178:

P/P outdpses rifle currently…and they’re both bad.

hi, can you explain why P/P is bad, I am new and try learn and I heard it was good dps thx

P/P does more but full Malice kneel 4 is heavier nuke damage. It’s situational.

Kut.7138:

Asur.9178:

P/P outdpses rifle currently…and they’re both bad.

hi, can you explain why P/P is bad, I am new and try learn and I heard it was good dps thx

Most of these players speak from a strictly sPvP point of view. From a PvE perspective P/P can be a good and fun way to play.

Kut.7138:

Asur.9178:

P/P outdpses rifle currently…and they’re both bad.

hi, can you explain why P/P is bad, I am new and try learn and I heard it was good dps thx

Its only bad in PvP because P/P has no escapes or defensive maneuvers to keep you alive. In PVE, P/P is actually required for certain content unless you want to spend all of your time dead or on the ground. It out damages Shortbow by miles on single targets (Shortbow is still arguably better for AoE due to Clusterbomb), and a dead thief does no damage.