Is it Daredevil or Thief that's Bad?

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Posted by: Arvizal.8436

Arvizal.8436

I’ve been maining my thief, and now daredevil, since launch. So far as a datedevil climbing to diamond has been alright (no, I didn’t get carried), and raids and fractals are fine too. So I was wondering – is all the hate just for stock thieves? I even see requests by raid groups FOR a Daredevil, and it also has a couple of meta builds over at MetaBattle. So my question again – are the original Thieves the bad ones here?

Thief main since launch! – Ded Pixel – Maguuma – [SAS]

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Posted by: Infusion.7149

Infusion.7149

I think the problem is Daredevil traitline (and just about every elite spec) is overtuned.

Look at unhindered combatant for example , compared to the entire Acrobatics traitline.

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Posted by: Amaranthe.3578

Amaranthe.3578

Its all very very bad

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Posted by: Arvizal.8436

Arvizal.8436

Its all very very bad

How is it that I haven’t noticed that it’s THAT bad? It’s not as good as it’s glory days, but it isn’t terrible, from personal experience.

Thief main since launch! – Ded Pixel – Maguuma – [SAS]

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Posted by: Asrat.2645

Asrat.2645

Its all very very bad

How is it that I haven’t noticed that it’s THAT bad? It’s not as good as it’s glory days, but it isn’t terrible, from personal experience.

Amaranthe just wants you to join the revenant uprising. Dont take it too serious.

Short version:
Thieves are good, but everything else is better.

Long version:
We arent useless for raids, fractals, whatever pve. in fact we can deliver a ton of damage. But thats about it. We are very welcome as soon as all important roles are filled.
For PvP we can prove useful for a team and good players can make the thief class work.
But that requires a lot of effort from the thief player and some cooperation form your team. It also only works with good teams, you cant reallly carry.
And again, running around, creating and winning uneven fights or capping uncontested points is not enough. there are 6 classes that perform better on high level and are generally more wanted due to pulling their weight in a teamfight, 7 classes on low level.

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Posted by: Taxidriver.2043

Taxidriver.2043

when ur main dps comes from auto attack u know u are bad lol.

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Posted by: NinjaEd.3946

NinjaEd.3946

Dare devil basically gives thieves a lot of traits that are ESSENTIAL for thief to keep up in the game, but it doesn’t make them better than any other profession. Sure they can escape better and evade for days and spike unsuspecting foes but they are still incredibly fragile to damaging conditions and cc and general AoE skills.

Core thief is still good in the right hands but by no means is it up to par with the rest of the professions.

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Posted by: Amaranthe.3578

Amaranthe.3578

when ur main dps comes from auto attack u know u are bad lol.

They made it like that on purpose

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Posted by: Kageseigi.2150

Kageseigi.2150

Core thief is still good in the right hands but by no means is it up to par with the rest of the professions.

Just curious. With such a statement, can you accurately say the following?…

“Relatively speaking, the core Thief is bad in general.”

Suggestions to overhaul the Thief…

* * * Thief Trait Shakeup * * *