Guild Wars 2

Caed says “screw thief”.

He didn’t say screw, he said it more passionately, but I sugarcoated it a bit.

Sad day indeed.

RIP

Considering “bruiser” specs deal as much damage as my zerker speced thief while having about 4 times as much survivability… yeah, I’d say screw thief.

Dakarius.3284:

Considering “bruiser” specs deal as much damage as my zerker speced thief while having about 4 times as much survivability… yeah, I’d say screw thief.

This. The thief class is just totally kitten tier now. Drd or not.

This is what happens when you have a dev in charge of that that doesn’t have a clue what the class needs.

Gabriell.4856:

Dakarius.3284:

Considering “bruiser” specs deal as much damage as my zerker speced thief while having about 4 times as much survivability… yeah, I’d say screw thief.

This. The thief class is just totally kitten tier now. Drd or not.

This is what happens when you have a dev in charge of that that doesn’t have a clue what the class needs.

Not only do the Dev’s in charge of thief not know what thief needs, they also seem to actively ignore the thousands of good suggestions that come from thief players themselves.

Sure, a lot of player suggest silly changes that are either insanely UP or OP, but there have been tons of well designed changes suggested on these forums that, at a minimum, would be a great place to start when trying to fix thieves problems. But as far as the dev’s are concerned, thieves don’t have any problems. That’s why it was totally fair to gut acrobatics, tweak the missing parts, then sell it back to us in a separate trait line.

I’m absolutely ecstatic I got my money back for HoT before it was too late. I’m genuinely sorry for any of you who didn’t.

evilapprentice.6379:

Gabriell.4856:

Dakarius.3284:

Considering “bruiser” specs deal as much damage as my zerker speced thief while having about 4 times as much survivability… yeah, I’d say screw thief.

This. The thief class is just totally kitten tier now. Drd or not.

This is what happens when you have a dev in charge of that that doesn’t have a clue what the class needs.

Not only do the Dev’s in charge of thief not know what thief needs, they also seem to actively ignore the thousands of good suggestions that come from thief players themselves.

Sure, a lot of player suggest silly changes that are either insanely UP or OP, but there have been tons of well designed changes suggested on these forums that, at a minimum, would be a great place to start when trying to fix thieves problems. But as far as the dev’s are concerned, thieves don’t have any problems. That’s why it was totally fair to gut acrobatics, tweak the missing parts, then sell it back to us in a separate trait line.

I’m absolutely ecstatic I got my money back for HoT before it was too late. I’m genuinely sorry for any of you who didn’t.

This is so true. It is very disappointing that they ask for feedback but they implement something worthless. I feel bad for the players who spent tons of time drafting feedback and developers couldn’t careless.

Tip of the day. Don’t bother spending your time creating feedback for theif class.

I am glad I got my money back too.

Shogun.7401:

evilapprentice.6379:

Gabriell.4856:

Dakarius.3284:

Considering “bruiser” specs deal as much damage as my zerker speced thief while having about 4 times as much survivability… yeah, I’d say screw thief.

This. The thief class is just totally kitten tier now. Drd or not.

This is what happens when you have a dev in charge of that that doesn’t have a clue what the class needs.

Not only do the Dev’s in charge of thief not know what thief needs, they also seem to actively ignore the thousands of good suggestions that come from thief players themselves.

Sure, a lot of player suggest silly changes that are either insanely UP or OP, but there have been tons of well designed changes suggested on these forums that, at a minimum, would be a great place to start when trying to fix thieves problems. But as far as the dev’s are concerned, thieves don’t have any problems. That’s why it was totally fair to gut acrobatics, tweak the missing parts, then sell it back to us in a separate trait line.

I’m absolutely ecstatic I got my money back for HoT before it was too late. I’m genuinely sorry for any of you who didn’t.

This is so true. It is very disappointing that they ask for feedback but they implement something worthless. I feel bad for the players who spent tons of time drafting feedback and developers couldn’t careless.

Tip of the day. Don’t bother spending your time creating feedback for theif class.

I am glad I got my money back too.

I will still give him a chance. He has to put something about thief that is not DD related on those more common patches now that HoT is live, he doesn’t have to but the first post HoT patch is last opportunity I see for him to prove he listened and understood feedback because it’s been flowing since June 23 patch preview. 2 or 3 after would be a very insulting slap in the face many thieves were already lost.

I love how thread’s about Mesmers/rangers/ Ect will all get left in the Pvp Forum, but the min you start talking about thieves, it get’s transferred here to die.

Your biased is showing again arenanet. (or the forum spec)

Sagat.3285:

Shogun.7401:

evilapprentice.6379:

Gabriell.4856:

Dakarius.3284:

Considering “bruiser” specs deal as much damage as my zerker speced thief while having about 4 times as much survivability… yeah, I’d say screw thief.

This. The thief class is just totally kitten tier now. Drd or not.

This is what happens when you have a dev in charge of that that doesn’t have a clue what the class needs.

Not only do the Dev’s in charge of thief not know what thief needs, they also seem to actively ignore the thousands of good suggestions that come from thief players themselves.

Sure, a lot of player suggest silly changes that are either insanely UP or OP, but there have been tons of well designed changes suggested on these forums that, at a minimum, would be a great place to start when trying to fix thieves problems. But as far as the dev’s are concerned, thieves don’t have any problems. That’s why it was totally fair to gut acrobatics, tweak the missing parts, then sell it back to us in a separate trait line.

I’m absolutely ecstatic I got my money back for HoT before it was too late. I’m genuinely sorry for any of you who didn’t.

This is so true. It is very disappointing that they ask for feedback but they implement something worthless. I feel bad for the players who spent tons of time drafting feedback and developers couldn’t careless.

Tip of the day. Don’t bother spending your time creating feedback for theif class.

I am glad I got my money back too.

I will still give him a chance. He has to put something about thief that is not DD related on those more common patches now that HoT is live, he doesn’t have to but the first post HoT patch is last opportunity I see for him to prove he listened and understood feedback because it’s been flowing since June 23 patch preview. 2 or 3 after would be a very insulting slap in the face many thieves were already lost.

Just to give you some perspective, I felt the same way you do nearly a year and a half ago. Stop giving them chances, they are endlessly squandered. If you can get a refund for HoT, do so immediately. You can always buy it again if they ever come to their senses and fix thieves issues, and the game just isn’t worth playing in its current state. Make your voice heard with your wallet.

Wait what happened? Did we find out we’re worse than originally anticipated in the expansion?

evilapprentice.6379:

Sagat.3285:

Shogun.7401:

evilapprentice.6379:

Gabriell.4856:

Dakarius.3284:

Considering “bruiser” specs deal as much damage as my zerker speced thief while having about 4 times as much survivability… yeah, I’d say screw thief.

This. The thief class is just totally kitten tier now. Drd or not.

This is what happens when you have a dev in charge of that that doesn’t have a clue what the class needs.

Not only do the Dev’s in charge of thief not know what thief needs, they also seem to actively ignore the thousands of good suggestions that come from thief players themselves.

Sure, a lot of player suggest silly changes that are either insanely UP or OP, but there have been tons of well designed changes suggested on these forums that, at a minimum, would be a great place to start when trying to fix thieves problems. But as far as the dev’s are concerned, thieves don’t have any problems. That’s why it was totally fair to gut acrobatics, tweak the missing parts, then sell it back to us in a separate trait line.

I’m absolutely ecstatic I got my money back for HoT before it was too late. I’m genuinely sorry for any of you who didn’t.

This is so true. It is very disappointing that they ask for feedback but they implement something worthless. I feel bad for the players who spent tons of time drafting feedback and developers couldn’t careless.

Tip of the day. Don’t bother spending your time creating feedback for theif class.

I am glad I got my money back too.

I will still give him a chance. He has to put something about thief that is not DD related on those more common patches now that HoT is live, he doesn’t have to but the first post HoT patch is last opportunity I see for him to prove he listened and understood feedback because it’s been flowing since June 23 patch preview. 2 or 3 after would be a very insulting slap in the face many thieves were already lost.

Just to give you some perspective, I felt the same way you do nearly a year and a half ago. Stop giving them chances, they are endlessly squandered. If you can get a refund for HoT, do so immediately. You can always buy it again if they ever come to their senses and fix thieves issues, and the game just isn’t worth playing in its current state. Make your voice heard with your wallet.

I know I wasn’t around since beta or launch nor did I expect to main thief when I started so my hope are less realistic than most. I didn’t buy HoT I’ve grown attached to only PvP and I didn’t like the future of WvW roaming. I have no issues vs elite specs on my necro my main PvP class so I’m fine without HoT and I’m no fan of DD I miss d/d and p/d. I guess my hope remains because I’ve seen such a turn of events for necro just within HoT announcement and now it’s been mostly justified blessings. Part of me believes this could happen for thief but if not soon it will be too late.

@Showbiz Forgot who the orignal wise player was but “thief was stronger last 1.5 years than it is now but at least it is stronger now than it will be in the next 1.5 years” or something like that.

Usually Caed was the one saying thief is fine no matter what. If he actually gives up on thief then it is really gg.

It’s a sad day when you can’t play the trait line you payed $50 for.

So I’m new to the game and literally just rolled a Thief like 2 days ago so I’m woefully ignorant but …

what happened exactly? So far I’m loving the Thief but … now you guys are making me worried lol

Kayleah.5791:

what happened exactly? So far I’m loving the Thief but … now you guys are making me worried lol

Do yourself a favor and don’t read any of the answers you’re going to get here.
You’ll be MUCH happier!

Ignorance is bliss! ;-)

Kayleah.5791:

So I’m new to the game and literally just rolled a Thief like 2 days ago so I’m woefully ignorant but …

what happened exactly? So far I’m loving the Thief but … now you guys are making me worried lol

The only thing is that it takes 400 HP to play the new Spec for thief or other class. Which is a HUGE grind.

Everything else is pretty much fine with thief. They are just really bad thieves here.

Kayleah.5791:

So I’m new to the game and literally just rolled a Thief like 2 days ago so I’m woefully ignorant but …

what happened exactly? So far I’m loving the Thief but … now you guys are making me worried lol

The Daredevil is really fun to play actually. And contrary to what’s written, I often ended up in situations where, a whole groupe got wiped out and I was the only survivor reviving the downed ones, while still remaining more than relevant on the offensive.

The elite spec will require you to remain on your toe and be active. No auto-pilote. On the other hand, it rewards you by giving you the tools to always react.
It’s a class that doesn’t rely on passive skils/trait at all.

Tabootrinket.2631:

Kayleah.5791:

So I’m new to the game and literally just rolled a Thief like 2 days ago so I’m woefully ignorant but …

what happened exactly? So far I’m loving the Thief but … now you guys are making me worried lol

The Daredevil is really fun to play actually. And contrary to what’s written, I often ended up in situations where, a whole groupe got wiped out and I was the only survivor reviving the downed ones, while still remaining more than relevant on the offensive.

The elite spec will require you to remain on your toe and be active. No auto-pilote. On the other hand, it rewards you by giving you the tools to always react.
It’s a class that doesn’t rely on passive skils/trait at all.

you didn’t touch pvp yet did you?

Shadowstep.6049:

Tabootrinket.2631:

Kayleah.5791:

So I’m new to the game and literally just rolled a Thief like 2 days ago so I’m woefully ignorant but …

what happened exactly? So far I’m loving the Thief but … now you guys are making me worried lol

The Daredevil is really fun to play actually. And contrary to what’s written, I often ended up in situations where, a whole groupe got wiped out and I was the only survivor reviving the downed ones, while still remaining more than relevant on the offensive.

The elite spec will require you to remain on your toe and be active. No auto-pilote. On the other hand, it rewards you by giving you the tools to always react.
It’s a class that doesn’t rely on passive skils/trait at all.

you didn’t touch pvp yet did you?

Can I remind that anything “works” in PvE? Oops..

LovefulfillsAll.4870:

Caed says “screw thief”.

He didn’t say screw, he said it more passionately, but I sugarcoated it a bit.

Just curious… where/when did he say this? I want to check it out. Thanks! :-)

Kageseigi.2150:

LovefulfillsAll.4870:

Caed says “screw thief”.

He didn’t say screw, he said it more passionately, but I sugarcoated it a bit.

Just curious… where/when did he say this? I want to check it out. Thanks! :-)

http://www.twitch.tv/narcarsis/v/22231491
He played thief for a match, and proceed to play ranger after that because he “Didn’t rage swap, so he deserved to play ranger”

Thanks, I’ll check it out! :-)

So uhh what reason did he rage about?

Magic Toker still around though?

+1 decapping meta?

If so, we’re TOTALLY fine guys, and are just a bunch of whiners.

Zero Day.2594:

Magic Toker still around though?

+1 decapping meta?

If so, we’re TOTALLY fine guys, and are just a bunch of whiners.

my money is that he is playing rev

Kayleah.5791:

So I’m new to the game and literally just rolled a Thief like 2 days ago so I’m woefully ignorant but …

what happened exactly? So far I’m loving the Thief but … now you guys are making me worried lol

Hey there Kayleah, I usually keep to myself about this, but since you’re a new player I’ll give you some high level info. I’m exclusively a thief player since pre-release of the core game and I have to say, thief has some problems like any other class, but is strong and one of (for me, the one) most fun classes in the game.

The thing is, thief has a really high skillcap and requires thinking outside the box, which makes a small percentage of players be really effective with it and most players be subpar with it. So, if you just wanna have fun and thief is your favorite class, play it guilty free, if you rather be strong without much effort, play something like Warrior.

It’s funny, there wasn’t a stream for DrD a couple of days ago, and now this lol…

Though I really do want to hear it from him/his video…

The bit of “Didn’t rage swap, so he deserved to play ranger” doesn’t really mean much.

Watch the last broadcast for hope ^^

DEAD MAN WALKIN’

Guys spamming skill 2 doesn’t work anymore on my dagger/pistol build. Please help!!! Theifs got nerfed to the ground. Why do i have to press more than 1 button???. This is not fair….

BlackFyer.6415:

Guys spamming skill 2 doesn’t work anymore on my dagger/pistol build. Please help!!! Theifs got nerfed to the ground. Why do i have to press more than 1 button???. This is not fair….

3 still works on S/P.
If you’re top tier though, switch to staff and alternate between 5 and dodge. It’s harder because 2 buttons, but both are evade.

k got it, I’ll spam skill 5 on staff while evading all damage and do as much damage as a backstab. Yay back to how i like my teef.

BlackFyer.6415:

k got it, I’ll spam skill 5 on staff while evading all damage and do as much damage as a backstab. Yay back to how i like my teef.

Can’t really spam it since you can only do it once per 5 seconds regen, probably seeing the dodge which has a similar animation but clear differences.

glaphen.5230:

BlackFyer.6415:

k got it, I’ll spam skill 5 on staff while evading all damage and do as much damage as a backstab. Yay back to how i like my teef.

Can’t really spam it since you can only do it once per 5 seconds regen, probably seeing the dodge which has a similar animation but clear differences.

Yeah he must not be top tier after all. The idea of alternating between two buttons instead of spamming one is hard to comprehend, much less perform.

Zero Day.2594:

Though I really do want to hear it from him/his video…

Yeah, he starts somewhere around the 19 minute mark…
http://www.twitch.tv/narcarsis/v/22231491

EDIT:

Watch the last broadcast for hope ^^

Ah, well, never mind :-P