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Last Refuge Trait!! ....whyyy??

Hey there,
Am I the only one that hates the Last Refuge trait in the Shadow Arts line? Countless times I hit that 25% mark and it puts me into stealth at the worst time.. It wouldn’t be a problem if the [Revealed] wouldn’t trigger but because I can’t know exactly which blow is going to set it off, sometimes I’ve already used a Cluster Bomb (or whatever be the case) and I’m revealed at <25% health. Basically…. Let me turn it off! =) I would try to just rework my traits to get off the Shadow Arts line but it’s my favourite one!
I have to admit that there are a few times when running from a zerg or something that it has saved me.. but I’m certain that this trait has done me more harm than good.

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Posted by: Galsia.4102

Galsia.4102

TreeRhino.1372:
Hey there,
Am I the only one that hates the Last Refuge trait in the Shadow Arts line?

Yes, everyone else loves it unconditionally.

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Galsia | Jäshin | Çyndelle
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Posted by: Sir Vincent III.1286

Sir Vincent III.1286

TreeRhino.1372:
Am I the only one that hates the Last Refuge trait in the Shadow Arts line?

Last Refuge: Hated since 2012.

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Posted by: Cam Ron.4170

Cam Ron.4170

If they changed it so: “Last refuge no longer gives revealed debuff”

It’d be a pretty good trait. This has been one of the most complained about thief traits, I’d be surprised if it’s not changed in the upcoming patch

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Posted by: DeceiverX.8361

DeceiverX.8361

If they just got rid of the thing altogether I would contemplate moving trait points to SA.

I refuse to use the SA line because a skilled player can force me into revealed. I don’t even care about him knowing where I am as much as I care about the fact I can’t use my stealth attacks.

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https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/ES-Suggestion-The-Deadeye-FORMAL/

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Posted by: Sir Vincent III.1286

Sir Vincent III.1286

Cam Ron.4170:
If they changed it so: “Last refuge no longer gives revealed debuff”

It’d be a pretty good trait. This has been one of the most complained about thief traits, I’d be surprised if it’s not changed in the upcoming patch

There’s another problem. It triggers when you’re already revealed, which means, it does nothing but proc a Confusion damage. Picture it, you’re revealed, with a Confusion on you, then you went down to 25% health, then Last Refuge triggers —- nooooooo! Yup, you’re down.

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Full set of 5 unique skills for both dual-wield weapon sets: P/P and D/D – Make it happen
PvE – DD/CS/AC – If that didn’t work, roll a Reaper or Revenant.

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Posted by: TreeRhino.1372

TreeRhino.1372

Glad I’m not alone.. I don’t think its a terrible trait. I just feel like it’s not accomplishing what they set out for it.

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Posted by: Sir Vincent III.1286

Sir Vincent III.1286

TreeRhino.1372:
Glad I’m not alone.. I don’t think its a terrible trait. I just feel like it’s not accomplishing what they set out for it.

There is always a loooong thread about this every patch when everything changes except this one.

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Full set of 5 unique skills for both dual-wield weapon sets: P/P and D/D – Make it happen
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Posted by: Sagat.3285

Sagat.3285

TreeRhino.1372:
Glad I’m not alone.. I don’t think its a terrible trait. I just feel like it’s not accomplishing what they set out for it.

“Revenant is actual proof that devs read the necromancer forum” – Pelopidas.2140
The Dhuumfire thread

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Posted by: Doggie.3184

Doggie.3184

It’s been broken and hated ever since they added the Reveal Mechanic while overlooking it. I’ve still yet to see Anet ever respond to the overwhelming hatred of this trait and I really don’t understand why.

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~~“Hard to Catch” is a Horrible and Useless Trait.~~ Fixed 6/23/15. Praise Dwayna.

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Posted by: Kolly.9872

Kolly.9872

If a trait or thief’ skill is under used or is giving thieves many troubles, then is working as intended.
If a thief’ skill is giving troubles to the other classes, then it’s clearly a bug or not working as intended and needs to be fixed

Thief might not be as strong as last year
but they’re a lot stronger
than they will be next year!

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Posted by: rekkis.5938

rekkis.5938

Every time a new patch comes out I get my hopes high that Anet might actually do something about this trait and every time I get disappointed that they didn’t. Complained weekly by community ever since revealed debuff was introduced and this thing is still in the game.

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Posted by: AlCojester.4316

AlCojester.4316

Cam Ron.4170:
in the upcoming patch

When’s the next patch?

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Posted by: Geiir.7603

Geiir.7603

They should have the trait stop everything the thief is doing so it won’t accidentally kill the thief. And not prof when the thief already have the revealed debuff.

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