Guild Wars 2

merrykitten .9423:

T is the troll level measured in kittens (since Anet loves cats so much)

But I thought ANet hates cats.
Kittens are always getting kicked around here :-(

You guys talk some utter crap sometimes lol

On behalf of zdenny:

Hey there, I see lots of you think the thief is underpowered all the time and I got tired of this. Thief is still one of the best run away class in entire game.
He is not though designed to be fighter anymore, ironically its presented as a running away.People are crying everytime about it. I started to play a thief recently and i think is too strong and valueble in pvp. If you would like to get fighting potential and survivability, Anet should reduce his running away ability in the meaning that thiefs will not began OP again. During the last years, the thief are one of the well balanced run away class in the game. They are not designed to fight long duration fights. Its designed to run away. Well played thief is hard to kill because of his running away. If you are complainig about your insta death in pvp, then you just suck and run away wrong. Its like the todays Druid thing… he is good bunker its hard to kill him, but hey.. on other hand he can 1v10.. Just like thief.. They are not OP, its balanced.
Moving around the map quickly can win the game. So please stop saying that thief are dead, thiefs are so underpowered, thief cant do kittens. Thiefs are designed to run away with high mobility and hard to kill still.So stick with it or play another class if you want fights where you could win.
I would like to know if any others has similar opinion about thiefs nowadays.

AlCojester.4316:

On behalf of zdenny:

Thieves = King Arthur

MATH. TOO MUCH MATH FOR THIS EARLY IN THE MORNING.

SB OP !
sb#1 – OP – 3 bounces – thaaaat fat damage !
sb#2 – OP – the arrow travel so fast it is impossible to move from the damage area
sb#3 – OP – evade on skill? omg omg and that cripple ?!
sb#4 – OP – poison reduces healing effectivness 50% for couple of seconds , waaay too OP
sb#5 fat and OP – blind on teleport?! its too much

VladR.9827:

SB OP !
sb#1 – OP – 3 bounces – thaaaat fat damage !
sb#2 – OP – the arrow travel so fast it is impossible to move from the damage area
sb#3 – OP – evade on skill? omg omg and that cripple ?!
sb#4 – OP – poison reduces healing effectivness 50% for couple of seconds , waaay too OP
sb#5 fat and OP – blind on teleport?! its too much

See, I want to agree…but all of the shortbow’s attacks are just so slow compared to every other weapon set the thief has it’s kinda a joke. I’ve more often than not outran the SB2 bombs or covered half the distance I would teleport from SB5 by running at signet speed. I would argue that SB4 is the fat damage on the weapon…but having seen all the nerfs over the years to that one skill; kinda makes it seem like we’ve already hit peak nerf on the shortbow.

i dont really know if ppl turn this thread to troll but imo

1. in pvp thieves just running from place to place hoping to decap a point which is FREE
2. its hard for the mto do 1v1 not because they cant rather it will take them too long and will help surly come while they cant decap the point
3. thier dmg is par with others atm thus why no to reroll
4. they cant stand on point with all the aoe around
5. they cant do good with bad group while other can do good with bad group (not winning but accoumplish the goals of the class and build)
6. yes they can do noce short burst but will have to disengage thus dropping down the dps while other may (but not) do lower dmg but can sustain it longer resulting in higher dps
7. i have never hit 10k bs unless i went full yolo DA CS with zerker rune (which 11k no stealth) on full zerk enemy. but yes i can be 6k-8K
8. so playing like looking for the below 50% hp enemy with no aoe around him for 4k-8k dmg than run away – guard can do better than us….
9. we dont have good range weapon like everyone have
10. almost every class can disengage nicely , engi with 2 immunity 2 blocks , guard the same, ele memser and so on. we do have SB to teleport to high places

to sum it up

i dont think thief need buff or nerf but other class need tune down thier dmg burst combos or sustain. i see the ranger driud staying full hp 1v3 on point OMG it havent drop below 90% hp untill cc spam class arrived ….

Overworld.9613:

VladR.9827:

SB OP !
sb#1 – OP – 3 bounces – thaaaat fat damage !
sb#2 – OP – the arrow travel so fast it is impossible to move from the damage area
sb#3 – OP – evade on skill? omg omg and that cripple ?!
sb#4 – OP – poison reduces healing effectivness 50% for couple of seconds , waaay too OP
sb#5 fat and OP – blind on teleport?! its too much

See, I want to agree…but all of the shortbow’s attacks are just so slow compared to every other weapon set the thief has it’s kinda a joke. I’ve more often than not outran the SB2 bombs or covered half the distance I would teleport from SB5 by running at signet speed. I would argue that SB4 is the fat damage on the weapon…but having seen all the nerfs over the years to that one skill; kinda makes it seem like we’ve already hit peak nerf on the shortbow.

troll is low with this one my padawan (translation: yes it was a troll post – as i main thief for 3+ years now i couldnt resist to troll for a bit, sorry it wasnt that clear)

oh and have you seen already full guild of chronomancers running with quickness, protection, and all other boons with durations of 1m+ ?? And perma stealth?? And dunno how many portals? NO?!

I agree with you messiah – it is not the thief that should be balanced its all other classes..

I partly disagree with that – all builds but D/P have been destroyed in June – would be nice to get most of what we’ve lost back.

This thread needs to be posted on a wall and framed.

Speaking about backstab ! Why the hell thieves can inflict 5k if it crits damage every 5 secs if they can stealth then move behind their opponents then land a strike that crits then wait for revealed finish then stealth….
1k dps ! Too OP !

azmodey.4576:

Speaking about backstab ! Why the hell thieves can inflict 5k if it crits damage every 5 secs if they can stealth then move behind their opponents then land a strike that crits then wait for revealed finish then stealth….
1k dps ! Too OP !

haha

theif is great and killing glass cannon people.

but if u got a BIT of survivability. that theif is screwed.

As a DH player I personally like thieves They die every time and I sit and watch while eating popcorn

No need to read anything other then first post.
There are 2 possible options
1: you must be a total noob who just began to play, or a pve brainless carebear
2: you are a troll who tries to frame

Aidan.7120:

No need to read anything other then first post.
There are 2 possible options
1: you must be a total noob who just began to play, or a pve brainless carebear
2: you are a troll who tries to frame

Not agreeing with OP that Thief is op?

Must be a thief.

Stop defending it because you don’t want it to be nerfed.

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Aidan.7120:

No need to read anything other then first post.
There are 2 possible options
1: you must be a total noob who just began to play, or a pve brainless carebear
2: you are a troll who tries to frame

Not agreeing with OP that Thief is op?

Must be a thief.

Stop defending it because you don’t want it to be nerfed.

i’m a necro/rev/ranger

an guess what. thief isn’t OP.

the only time thief can kill you easily is if you are in full berserker.

add soem valkyr and soldier gear to your build. and theif’s dmg to you drops off massively.

my necro can literally ignore a thief that attacks me. soldier/valkyr build for necro with full vamperic build.

my revenant has more hp and evasion. and can massacre the thief in a head to head brawl. unless thief is running condition build, it will lose.
my rev is berserker/soldier build

my ranger literally laughs as my pet makes their stealth WORTHLESS and my vines, traps, and longbow lays WASTE to the theif.
my ranger is berserker/valkyr build

i focus on dmg, with toughness. sure i sacrifice a bit of offense. but considering it makes it so theif can’t hurt me at all. its easily worth it.

learn to play. otherwise the first time u fight a fear necro, or a condition mesmer, or a GS/rifle warrior. you gonna be crying again.
(seriously. fear necro will fear you off cliffs. condition mesmers are JUST A PAIN TO FIGHT. and GS/rifle warrior. you lose hp fast)

so stop using berserker. and stop acting like a 6 year old.

Ragnarox.9601:

As a DH player I personally like thieves They die every time and I sit and watch while eating popcorn

This is a real troll DH OP !

arenta.2953:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Aidan.7120:

No need to read anything other then first post.
There are 2 possible options
1: you must be a total noob who just began to play, or a pve brainless carebear
2: you are a troll who tries to frame

Not agreeing with OP that Thief is op?

Must be a thief.

Stop defending it because you don’t want it to be nerfed.

i’m a necro/rev/ranger

an guess what. thief isn’t OP.

the only time thief can kill you easily is if you are in full berserker.

add soem valkyr and soldier gear to your build. and theif’s dmg to you drops off massively.

my necro can literally ignore a thief that attacks me. soldier/valkyr build for necro with full vamperic build.

my revenant has more hp and evasion. and can massacre the thief in a head to head brawl. unless thief is running condition build, it will lose.
my rev is berserker/soldier build

my ranger literally laughs as my pet makes their stealth WORTHLESS and my vines, traps, and longbow lays WASTE to the theif.
my ranger is berserker/valkyr build

i focus on dmg, with toughness. sure i sacrifice a bit of offense. but considering it makes it so theif can’t hurt me at all. its easily worth it.

learn to play. otherwise the first time u fight a fear necro, or a condition mesmer, or a GS/rifle warrior. you gonna be crying again.
(seriously. fear necro will fear you off cliffs. condition mesmers are JUST A PAIN TO FIGHT. and GS/rifle warrior. you lose hp fast)

so stop using berserker. and stop acting like a 6 year old.

This is probably the best day I have ever had on these forums.

Thief is op though, stealth > any skill anyone can ever use.

It doesnt even matter that they can’t fight bunkers, they’re only meant to decap anyway. Developers said so.

Azure The Heartless.3261:

arenta.2953:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Aidan.7120:

No need to read anything other then first post.
There are 2 possible options
1: you must be a total noob who just began to play, or a pve brainless carebear
2: you are a troll who tries to frame

Not agreeing with OP that Thief is op?

Must be a thief.

Stop defending it because you don’t want it to be nerfed.

i’m a necro/rev/ranger

an guess what. thief isn’t OP.

the only time thief can kill you easily is if you are in full berserker.

add soem valkyr and soldier gear to your build. and theif’s dmg to you drops off massively.

my necro can literally ignore a thief that attacks me. soldier/valkyr build for necro with full vamperic build.

my revenant has more hp and evasion. and can massacre the thief in a head to head brawl. unless thief is running condition build, it will lose.
my rev is berserker/soldier build

my ranger literally laughs as my pet makes their stealth WORTHLESS and my vines, traps, and longbow lays WASTE to the theif.
my ranger is berserker/valkyr build

i focus on dmg, with toughness. sure i sacrifice a bit of offense. but considering it makes it so theif can’t hurt me at all. its easily worth it.

learn to play. otherwise the first time u fight a fear necro, or a condition mesmer, or a GS/rifle warrior. you gonna be crying again.
(seriously. fear necro will fear you off cliffs. condition mesmers are JUST A PAIN TO FIGHT. and GS/rifle warrior. you lose hp fast)

so stop using berserker. and stop acting like a 6 year old.

This is probably the best day I have ever had on these forums.

Thief is op though, stealth > any skill anyone can ever use.

It doesnt even matter that they can’t fight bunkers, they’re only meant to decap anyway. Developers said so.

no argument about stealth spammers.

they can rot in hell (cant kill them so i usually just leave them)

but dmg wise with the occasional stealth is fine (shadow refuge is the reason i like theives in dungeons)

stealth spammers can go die. but the occasional stealth (like shadow refuge + the stealth heal 6) are fine.
my old theif used d/d and p/p. partially cause i liked it like that. and partially because i wanted to show people i don’t abuse stealth xD

i use stealth when i need to step back and get some hp.

so if they increased reveal duration to 10 secounds. i honestly would not mind. as i use stealth maybe every 15-20 secounds

arenta.2953:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

arenta.2953:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Aidan.7120:

No need to read anything other then first post.
There are 2 possible options
1: you must be a total noob who just began to play, or a pve brainless carebear
2: you are a troll who tries to frame

Not agreeing with OP that Thief is op?

Must be a thief.

Stop defending it because you don’t want it to be nerfed.

i’m a necro/rev/ranger

an guess what. thief isn’t OP.

the only time thief can kill you easily is if you are in full berserker.

add soem valkyr and soldier gear to your build. and theif’s dmg to you drops off massively.

my necro can literally ignore a thief that attacks me. soldier/valkyr build for necro with full vamperic build.

my revenant has more hp and evasion. and can massacre the thief in a head to head brawl. unless thief is running condition build, it will lose.
my rev is berserker/soldier build

my ranger literally laughs as my pet makes their stealth WORTHLESS and my vines, traps, and longbow lays WASTE to the theif.
my ranger is berserker/valkyr build

i focus on dmg, with toughness. sure i sacrifice a bit of offense. but considering it makes it so theif can’t hurt me at all. its easily worth it.

learn to play. otherwise the first time u fight a fear necro, or a condition mesmer, or a GS/rifle warrior. you gonna be crying again.
(seriously. fear necro will fear you off cliffs. condition mesmers are JUST A PAIN TO FIGHT. and GS/rifle warrior. you lose hp fast)

so stop using berserker. and stop acting like a 6 year old.

This is probably the best day I have ever had on these forums.

Thief is op though, stealth > any skill anyone can ever use.

It doesnt even matter that they can’t fight bunkers, they’re only meant to decap anyway. Developers said so.

no argument about stealth spammers.

they can rot in hell (cant kill them so i usually just leave them)

but dmg wise with the occasional stealth is fine (shadow refuge is the reason i like theives in dungeons)

stealth spammers can go die. but the occasional stealth (like shadow refuge + the stealth heal 6) are fine.
my old theif used d/d and p/p. partially cause i liked it like that. and partially because i wanted to show people i don’t abuse stealth xD

i use stealth when i need to step back and get some hp.

so if they increased reveal duration to 10 secounds. i honestly would not mind. as i use stealth maybe every 15-20 secounds

But today our survivabilty are near 0 without stealth !
We can spec into toughness and vitality but in this case we do no damage at all !

There should be a balance, today it is broken.

azmodey.4576:

arenta.2953:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

arenta.2953:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Aidan.7120:

No need to read anything other then first post.
There are 2 possible options
1: you must be a total noob who just began to play, or a pve brainless carebear
2: you are a troll who tries to frame

Not agreeing with OP that Thief is op?

Must be a thief.

Stop defending it because you don’t want it to be nerfed.

i’m a necro/rev/ranger

an guess what. thief isn’t OP.

the only time thief can kill you easily is if you are in full berserker.

add soem valkyr and soldier gear to your build. and theif’s dmg to you drops off massively.

my necro can literally ignore a thief that attacks me. soldier/valkyr build for necro with full vamperic build.

my revenant has more hp and evasion. and can massacre the thief in a head to head brawl. unless thief is running condition build, it will lose.
my rev is berserker/soldier build

my ranger literally laughs as my pet makes their stealth WORTHLESS and my vines, traps, and longbow lays WASTE to the theif.
my ranger is berserker/valkyr build

i focus on dmg, with toughness. sure i sacrifice a bit of offense. but considering it makes it so theif can’t hurt me at all. its easily worth it.

learn to play. otherwise the first time u fight a fear necro, or a condition mesmer, or a GS/rifle warrior. you gonna be crying again.
(seriously. fear necro will fear you off cliffs. condition mesmers are JUST A PAIN TO FIGHT. and GS/rifle warrior. you lose hp fast)

so stop using berserker. and stop acting like a 6 year old.

This is probably the best day I have ever had on these forums.

Thief is op though, stealth > any skill anyone can ever use.

It doesnt even matter that they can’t fight bunkers, they’re only meant to decap anyway. Developers said so.

no argument about stealth spammers.

they can rot in hell (cant kill them so i usually just leave them)

but dmg wise with the occasional stealth is fine (shadow refuge is the reason i like theives in dungeons)

stealth spammers can go die. but the occasional stealth (like shadow refuge + the stealth heal 6) are fine.
my old theif used d/d and p/p. partially cause i liked it like that. and partially because i wanted to show people i don’t abuse stealth xD

i use stealth when i need to step back and get some hp.

so if they increased reveal duration to 10 secounds. i honestly would not mind. as i use stealth maybe every 15-20 secounds

But today our survivabilty are near 0 without stealth !
We can spec into toughness and vitality but in this case we do no damage at all !

There should be a balance, today it is broken.

not true
stealth heals a large degree, as well as traits removing conditions, restoring initiative, and healing.

so u don’t need it as often.

add to that crits HEAL you, so a crit build heals you nearly as fast as u take dmg

add to that the increased evasion(and i’m not referign to daredevil)

and lets add the heals from use of initiative skills.

and thief can heal faster as it does dmg.

also roll for initiative removes conditions and gives initiative for more heals and crit heals.

i only need stealth once every 15-20 secounds cause i HEAL so fast when doing dmg, that stealth is only needed when conditions stack up enough.

making reveal 10 secounds wouldn’t affect me at all.

other than that, theif is fine. u can buff the reveal effect. but everything else on thief is fine(or could use a bit of buffs….looking at you mesmers…u kitten trolls)

here is the build
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQRAoY6alsMhenYnTw7JQ/EHtE1uDiuRkPE3QQoDgDYBA

use with full berserker. or add in 1-3 soldier pieces.

the criticals heal u for 15% of critical dmg.
the occasional stealth heals you drastically, removing conditions, restoring initative (hence only needing it every 15 secounds)

i dont have hte int use heals you here. cause i choose to grab the spammable poison proc with increased dmg and duration. to hurt the enemy more.

and yes. its d/d and p/p

dagger for bursting dmg.

and when i’m low on int, roll for initative. pull out pistols. unload into the enemy to regain hp. when hp is full, switch to daggers, steal, and repeat.

it works quite well.
and it isn’t stealth spam skummy.

Am I the only one who misses Burnfall? lol.

El Psy Congroo.7965:

If you have problems beating a Thief,
then you don’t know how to play, as simple as that, no matter what class I play the easier target is always the Thief, so just practice a little bit before posting on the forums.
You can dodge, block, get invulnerability or blind just like any other class.
Thieves don’t have blocks, and you can kill them while on stealth.

Actually, thieves do have blocks. Called bandit’s defense.

Lamuness.3570:

Am I the only one who misses Burnfall? lol.

I literally said this exact phrase a couple months ago, he would’ve been here like:

Friends, Anet have given us Revenants, but it seems thieves are the ones being haunted by their ghosts and demons of the past!

Zero Day.2594:

Kageseigi.2150:

Zero Day.2594:

That mathematical model seems rather flawed, Dr. Kage.

Of course it does. It is based on ANet’s mathematical principles, not mine :-P

According to them…
(4,344 * 1.1) = 4,344

…

As flawed as that may seem, I believe it comes from the same notion of +1 for the thief. Since we’ve already established that 0 < T < 1, T is then a fraction. However, players cannot be quantified in fractal form, as in there can’t be a half a player, they then proceed to round up T, giving it a value of 1. Like wise 1.1 is rounded down to 1 so that 4,344 * 1 = 4,344.

From this we can also deduce that T may very well be 0.5 <= T < 1, since in order to round a number up it has to be at least half or more.

That’s some amazing math Zero. :P

However, the value of T fluctuates depending on the number of opponents in a given encounter.

For example, here’s a typical model of what is expected of Thief:
T=1 in 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4

Thieves have zero contribution in these fights, might as well detach from the group and decap a node:
T=0 in Tv1, 1v2, 2v3, 3v4, 4v5, and 5v5

Thieves becomes a liability in these fight engagements:
T=-1 in 1v3, 2v4, 3v5
T=-2 in 1v4, 2v5
T=-3 in 1v5 (might as well not bother)

That holds true based on the belief of “+1” which is never an effective strategy. Take the 5v5 scenario for instance, since the Thief has zero contribution, if the Thief choose to detach to decap, he’s leaving his group outnumbered — which at this point won’t make any difference because he has zero contribution to the fight. Might as well make himself useful by trying to decap. The worst part is, this is the role of the Thief by design.

Sir Vincent III.1286:

Zero Day.2594:

Kageseigi.2150:

Zero Day.2594:

That mathematical model seems rather flawed, Dr. Kage.

Of course it does. It is based on ANet’s mathematical principles, not mine :-P

According to them…
(4,344 * 1.1) = 4,344

…

As flawed as that may seem, I believe it comes from the same notion of +1 for the thief. Since we’ve already established that 0 < T < 1, T is then a fraction. However, players cannot be quantified in fractal form, as in there can’t be a half a player, they then proceed to round up T, giving it a value of 1. Like wise 1.1 is rounded down to 1 so that 4,344 * 1 = 4,344.

From this we can also deduce that T may very well be 0.5 <= T < 1, since in order to round a number up it has to be at least half or more.

That’s some amazing math Zero. :P

However, the value of T fluctuates depending on the number of opponents in a given encounter.

For example, here’s a typical model of what is expected of Thief:
T=1 in 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4

Thieves have zero contribution in these fights, might as well detach from the group and decap a node:
T=0 in Tv1, 1v2, 2v3, 3v4, 4v5, and 5v5

Thieves becomes a liability in these fight engagements:
T=-1 in 1v3, 2v4, 3v5
T=-2 in 1v4, 2v5
T=-3 in 1v5 (might as well not bother)

That holds true based on the belief of “+1” which is never an effective strategy. Take the 5v5 scenario for instance, since the Thief has zero contribution, if the Thief choose to detach to decap, he’s leaving his group outnumbered — which at this point won’t make any difference because he has zero contribution to the fight. Might as well make himself useful by trying to decap. The worst part is, this is the role of the Thief by design.

Perhaps we should rename the role to then be +T, where T<1. Or perhaps we should gather all our mathematical TEEEReee-crafters, to find the true value, or a function of T.

RedSpectrum.1975:

Lamuness.3570:

Am I the only one who misses Burnfall? lol.

I literally said this exact phrase a couple months ago, he would’ve been here like:

Friends, Anet have given us Revenants, but it seems thieves are the ones being haunted by their ghosts and demons of the past!

More like:

Friends,
ANet has realized the oppression that thieves caused to other players by their unfair and unchallenging low risk high reward game play.
They have given us the Revenant! A crusader of justice for the oppressed.
Unite brethrens to fight the unhealthy and not fun game play of thieves.
Use the scrapper to combat the unfair stealth that the thieves have.
Use the ranger to combat the unchallenging low risk high rewards that thieves get, by taunting with a pet.

Yeah… I miss burnfall. Same with darksyze a bit, he kind of buzzed off when I told him to play a thief for a month and then come back and talk… Wonder how that went for him.

All the funny people are gone =( Still got Zero and Azure though so I mean, they’re funny. =D

Btw- Nerf Thief. Knocked me down from 1200 range using his Scorpion Wire and I had to walk over and kill him. To broken. Took 3 seconds, make it take 1.

Serious Thought.5394:

Btw- Nerf Thief. Knocked me down from 1200 range using his Scorpion Wire and I had to walk over and kill him. To broken. Took 3 seconds, make it take 1.

That would mean that they have to buff thief so he can pull you faster. And do you really want that?
Anyway, I think at some point people will really be convinced that it’s impossible that a thief can kill them, so they will cry hacks every time it happens.

Jana.6831:

Anyway, I think at some point people will really be convinced that it’s impossible that a thief can kill them, so they will cry hacks every time it happens.

I like how you missed the reference to the bugged skill not working and the player…never mind. Working as intended =P. I had other Thieves tell me I was hacking for hitting so fast. Unload+PointblankrageFF/ID/DD so good.

Serious Thought.5394:

I like how you missed the reference to the bugged skill not working and the player…never mind. Working as intended =P. I had other Thieves tell me I was hacking for hitting so fast. Unload+PointblankrageFF/ID/DD so good.

Maybe it was you – I might have a serious name, should’ve called myself “Josteinns Mommy.0815” but I’m still able to joke :P

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Jana.6831:

Anyway, I think at some point people will really be convinced that it’s impossible that a thief can kill them, so they will cry hacks every time it happens.

Don’t worry bro, you’re not a hacker till you’re caught.

Zero Day.2594:

Don’t worry bro, you’re not a hacker till you’re caught.

Thanks gurrl!

Jana.6831:

Zero Day.2594:

Don’t worry bro, you’re not a hacker till you’re caught.

Thanks gurrl!

I was quoting Azure, since he got all sweaty …

;D Hope I’m a hot girl at least.

Hey boys. I main ele and honestly if u actualy saying thieves are op u should go hide yourself. thieves have low health base, incredibly hard play style compared to other classes. NO BLOCKS! NO STABILITY! NO INVULNERABILITY! thieves are the weakest class at this game in every game time, especially in pvp where their are horse kitten. If anyone says they are op again just shoot urself pls

BartHomer.7512:

Hey boys. I main ele and honestly if u actualy saying thieves are op u should go hide yourself. thieves have low health base, incredibly hard play style compared to other classes. NO BLOCKS! NO STABILITY! NO INVULNERABILITY! thieves are the weakest class at this game in every game time, especially in pvp where their are horse kitten. If anyone says they are op again just shoot urself pls

I tried, but pistols got nerfed.

Zero Day.2594:

RedSpectrum.1975:

Lamuness.3570:

Am I the only one who misses Burnfall? lol.

I literally said this exact phrase a couple months ago, he would’ve been here like:

Friends, Anet have given us Revenants, but it seems thieves are the ones being haunted by their ghosts and demons of the past!

More like:

Friends,
ANet has realized the oppression that thieves caused to other players by their unfair and unchallenging low risk high reward game play.
They have given us the Revenant! A crusader of justice for the oppressed.
Unite brethrens to fight the unhealthy and not fun game play of thieves.
Use the scrapper to combat the unfair stealth that the thieves have.
Use the ranger to combat the unchallenging low risk high rewards that thieves get, by taunting with a pet.

Yeah… I miss burnfall. Same with darksyze a bit, he kind of buzzed off when I told him to play a thief for a month and then come back and talk… Wonder how that went for him.

LOL Yes you nailed this! At least he was poetic with the trolling. You’re the best!

Zero Day.2594:

I was quoting Azure, since he got all sweaty …

;D Hope I’m a hot girl at least.

I got it after I wrote that post
But I’m kind of not myself today – so..

BartHomer.7512:

Hey boys. I main ele and honestly if u actualy saying thieves are op u should go hide yourself. thieves have low health base, incredibly hard play style compared to other classes. NO BLOCKS! NO STABILITY! NO INVULNERABILITY! thieves are the weakest class at this game in every game time, especially in pvp where their are horse kitten. If anyone says they are op again just shoot urself pls

The kitten you talking about? Thieves has a kitten ton of blocks, stabiliity and invulnerability. You must be a terrible thief because you are ignoring the secret trait line: The BLOCKSTABILITYINVULNERABILITYMASTER. Bruh every thief runs this, you must be really bad if you can’t find this trait line. To unlock this: you take your thief and jump off a cliff and die 1000000 times. After dying so many times, your body becomes used to the dmg, so you just become completely immune. Almost every thief has unlocked this, how come you still havn’t done it yet? In fact, if you die 100000000000000000000000 times, you will gain the ability to teleport to any enemy on the map and instantly kill them, this skill is so kitten op!

merrykitten .9423:

BartHomer.7512:

Hey boys. I main ele and honestly if u actualy saying thieves are op u should go hide yourself. thieves have low health base, incredibly hard play style compared to other classes. NO BLOCKS! NO STABILITY! NO INVULNERABILITY! thieves are the weakest class at this game in every game time, especially in pvp where their are horse kitten. If anyone says they are op again just shoot urself pls

The kitten you talking about? Thieves has a kitten ton of blocks, stabiliity and invulnerability. You must be a terrible thief because you are ignoring the secret trait line: The BLOCKSTABILITYINVULNERABILITYMASTER. Bruh every thief runs this, you must be really bad if you can’t find this trait line. To unlock this: you take your thief and jump off a cliff and die 1000000 times. After dying so many times, your body becomes used to the dmg, so you just become completely immune. Almost every thief has unlocked this, how come you still havn’t done it yet?

This achievement is not easy to find though. I found this in my Thief by accident while doing the Arah story mode. There’s also a visual que when you unlock this. Your Thief is surrounded by an invisible glow that shows everyone that you have unlocked the hidden Thief art called “Shadow Form”.

If you have HoT, you’ll easily unlock this achievement by not using your glider.

Sir Vincent III.1286:

merrykitten .9423:

BartHomer.7512:

Hey boys. I main ele and honestly if u actualy saying thieves are op u should go hide yourself. thieves have low health base, incredibly hard play style compared to other classes. NO BLOCKS! NO STABILITY! NO INVULNERABILITY! thieves are the weakest class at this game in every game time, especially in pvp where their are horse kitten. If anyone says they are op again just shoot urself pls

The kitten you talking about? Thieves has a kitten ton of blocks, stabiliity and invulnerability. You must be a terrible thief because you are ignoring the secret trait line: The BLOCKSTABILITYINVULNERABILITYMASTER. Bruh every thief runs this, you must be really bad if you can’t find this trait line. To unlock this: you take your thief and jump off a cliff and die 1000000 times. After dying so many times, your body becomes used to the dmg, so you just become completely immune. Almost every thief has unlocked this, how come you still havn’t done it yet?

This achievement is not easy to find though. I found this in my Thief by accident while doing the Arah story mode. There’s also a visual que when you unlock this. Your Thief is surrounded by an invisible glow that shows everyone that you have unlocked the hidden Thief art called “Shadow Form”.

If you have HoT, you’ll easily unlock this achievement by not using your glider.

Exactly, this trait line is so easily obtained, yet thieves still say they are not op, they need to be nerfed immediately!

merrykitten .9423:

Sir Vincent III.1286:

merrykitten .9423:

BartHomer.7512:

Hey boys. I main ele and honestly if u actualy saying thieves are op u should go hide yourself. thieves have low health base, incredibly hard play style compared to other classes. NO BLOCKS! NO STABILITY! NO INVULNERABILITY! thieves are the weakest class at this game in every game time, especially in pvp where their are horse kitten. If anyone says they are op again just shoot urself pls

The kitten you talking about? Thieves has a kitten ton of blocks, stabiliity and invulnerability. You must be a terrible thief because you are ignoring the secret trait line: The BLOCKSTABILITYINVULNERABILITYMASTER. Bruh every thief runs this, you must be really bad if you can’t find this trait line. To unlock this: you take your thief and jump off a cliff and die 1000000 times. After dying so many times, your body becomes used to the dmg, so you just become completely immune. Almost every thief has unlocked this, how come you still havn’t done it yet?

This achievement is not easy to find though. I found this in my Thief by accident while doing the Arah story mode. There’s also a visual que when you unlock this. Your Thief is surrounded by an invisible glow that shows everyone that you have unlocked the hidden Thief art called “Shadow Form”.

If you have HoT, you’ll easily unlock this achievement by not using your glider.

Exactly, this trait line is so easily obtained, yet thieves still say they are not op, they need to be nerfed immediately!

I already added 2 nerf suggestions in the Nerf Wish List thread. Thief’s brokenness needs to be fixed to keep the status quo.

While D/x spams HS, Staff spams Vault…it’s ridiculous.

For example, Vault hits for 5k-6k crit and with Trickery, you can use Vault 3x which deals damage around 15k-21k crit damage which is enough to kill any low health players. Also the fact that Vault is an AoE, the potential of Vault killing 5 players at the same time is beyond comprehension why such thing is allowed to exist. In addition, the Thief is evading at the same time so there’s no stopping this maddening insane pogo-clown.

I think I lost a few brain cells reading this thread.

Sir Vincent III.1286:

merrykitten .9423:

Sir Vincent III.1286:

merrykitten .9423:

BartHomer.7512:

Hey boys. I main ele and honestly if u actualy saying thieves are op u should go hide yourself. thieves have low health base, incredibly hard play style compared to other classes. NO BLOCKS! NO STABILITY! NO INVULNERABILITY! thieves are the weakest class at this game in every game time, especially in pvp where their are horse kitten. If anyone says they are op again just shoot urself pls

The kitten you talking about? Thieves has a kitten ton of blocks, stabiliity and invulnerability. You must be a terrible thief because you are ignoring the secret trait line: The BLOCKSTABILITYINVULNERABILITYMASTER. Bruh every thief runs this, you must be really bad if you can’t find this trait line. To unlock this: you take your thief and jump off a cliff and die 1000000 times. After dying so many times, your body becomes used to the dmg, so you just become completely immune. Almost every thief has unlocked this, how come you still havn’t done it yet?

This achievement is not easy to find though. I found this in my Thief by accident while doing the Arah story mode. There’s also a visual que when you unlock this. Your Thief is surrounded by an invisible glow that shows everyone that you have unlocked the hidden Thief art called “Shadow Form”.

If you have HoT, you’ll easily unlock this achievement by not using your glider.

Exactly, this trait line is so easily obtained, yet thieves still say they are not op, they need to be nerfed immediately!

I already added 2 nerf suggestions in the Nerf Wish List thread. Thief’s brokenness needs to be fixed to keep the status quo.

While D/x spams HS, Staff spams Vault…it’s ridiculous.

For example, Vault hits for 5k-6k crit and with Trickery, you can use Vault 3x which deals damage around 15k-21k crit damage which is enough to kill any low health players. Also the fact that Vault is an AoE, the potential of Vault killing 5 players at the same time is beyond comprehension why such thing is allowed to exist. In addition, the Thief is evading at the same time so there’s no stopping this maddening insane pogo-clown.

+1 for the image of a thief in a clown suit jumping up and down on a giant pogo stick (scary stuff man!) while a player’s character is laughing so hard they just stand there and die

yolo swaggins.2570:

I think I lost a few brain cells reading this thread.

I found another thief player, of course thieves will try to troll on this legitemate thread, they don’t want their precious class nerfed. However, do thief players even have any brain cells to began with, I mean all they do is spam mindlessly

merrykitten .9423:

yolo swaggins.2570:

I think I lost a few brain cells reading this thread.

I found another thief player, of course thieves will try to troll on this legitemate thread, they don’t want their precious class nerfed. However, do thief players even have any brain cells to began with, I mean all they do is spam mindlessly

I found another player who’de rather have their wins handed to them than get better.

Thief has been designed like that since day one. If you won’t adapt or get better, then pvp isn’t for you.

yolo swaggins.2570:

merrykitten .9423:

yolo swaggins.2570:

I think I lost a few brain cells reading this thread.

I found another thief player, of course thieves will try to troll on this legitemate thread, they don’t want their precious class nerfed. However, do thief players even have any brain cells to began with, I mean all they do is spam mindlessly

I found another player who’de rather have their wins handed to them than get better.

Thief has been designed like that since day one. If you won’t adapt or get better, then pvp isn’t for you.

Get baited son!

:P Congrats merry. Almost baited me and successfully baited yolo.

:( You didn’t like my math, yolo?

This guy is too serious to be trolling. And if he does admit he is trolling its only an excuse to back out of a losing debate.

Also you know I read from top to bottom.