Patch thoughts from a fellow Thief
Still doesn’t justify the 50% damage decrease on Dancing Dagger to me, could have been PvP only or 25% to 30% damage decrease :P
For the rest, yeah sure, can live with those changes. Just hope they will make the venoms/traps more interesting to use so we actually run something else than deception stuff :P (ok and scorpion wire :P)
Still doesn’t justify the 50% damage decrease on Dancing Dagger to me, could have been PvP only or 25% to 30% damage decrease :P
For the rest, yeah sure, can live with those changes. Just hope they will make the venoms/traps more interesting to use so we actually run something else than deception stuff :P (ok and scorpion wire :P)
Dancing Dagger nerf was a big hit, but I feel like it’s justified by the huge spike damage we can do elsewhere. D/D was just easy-mode 1v2 for Thieves, and I’ll admit that.
A revamp of thief utility should be considered but overall, I’m happy with the thief’s current standing.
I don’t. I get that the backstab builds need a nerf, no one would complain about that. But where are the other options we were promised? Everyone was hoping that they would finally make some changes to venoms and change some weaponsets which aren’t D/D.
The changes seem rather pointless really, I can’t see any incentive to change my build from d/d to anything else since it’s still vastly superior.
I don’t. I get that the backstab builds need a nerf, no one would complain about that. But where are the other options we were promised? Everyone was hoping that they would finally make some changes to venoms and change some weaponsets which aren’t D/D.
The changes seem rather pointless really, I can’t see any incentive to change my build from d/d to anything else since it’s still vastly superior.
And that’s where a lot of people’s ‘trust’ in the game die. You ‘hope’ that they’ll change something, such as revamping the skillsets.
They never said they would, they only intended to balance them for now.
I don’t. I get that the backstab builds need a nerf, no one would complain about that. But where are the other options we were promised? Everyone was hoping that they would finally make some changes to venoms and change some weaponsets which aren’t D/D.
The changes seem rather pointless really, I can’t see any incentive to change my build from d/d to anything else since it’s still vastly superior.
And that’s where a lot of people’s ‘trust’ in the game die. You ‘hope’ that they’ll change something, such as revamping the skillsets.
They never said they would, they only intended to balance them for now.
They actually said they would improve other areas to compensate for the nerf. I’ve been a patient man, but I’m getting tired of being forced into one or two weaponsets or builds just to be effective. That’s nothing like what I would expect from Guild Wars and it’s nothing like how other classes are being played.
I’ve played around with builds on thieves, but in the end you are only kittening yourself if you don’t play it straightforward.
I don’t. I get that the backstab builds need a nerf, no one would complain about that. But where are the other options we were promised? Everyone was hoping that they would finally make some changes to venoms and change some weaponsets which aren’t D/D.
The changes seem rather pointless really, I can’t see any incentive to change my build from d/d to anything else since it’s still vastly superior.
And that’s where a lot of people’s ‘trust’ in the game die. You ‘hope’ that they’ll change something, such as revamping the skillsets.
They never said they would, they only intended to balance them for now.
They actually said they would improve other areas to compensate for the nerf. I’ve been a patient man, but I’m getting tired of being forced into one or two weaponsets or builds just to be effective. That’s nothing like what I would expect from Guild Wars and it’s nothing like how other classes are being played.
I’ve played around with builds on thieves, but in the end you are only kittening yourself if you don’t play it straightforward.
I respect your viewpoint but I disagree.
There’s quite a lot of innovative builds that people just look over.
Ever seen a Zerker’s shortbow build centering on Ice Drake Venom and Scorpion Wire (as well as shortbow #3)? It’s crazy. I myself can’t pull it off very well but I have a mate that just wrecks face using exactly that.
I don’t. I get that the backstab builds need a nerf, no one would complain about that. But where are the other options we were promised? Everyone was hoping that they would finally make some changes to venoms and change some weaponsets which aren’t D/D.
The changes seem rather pointless really, I can’t see any incentive to change my build from d/d to anything else since it’s still vastly superior.
And that’s where a lot of people’s ‘trust’ in the game die. You ‘hope’ that they’ll change something, such as revamping the skillsets.
They never said they would, they only intended to balance them for now.
They actually said they would improve other areas to compensate for the nerf. I’ve been a patient man, but I’m getting tired of being forced into one or two weaponsets or builds just to be effective. That’s nothing like what I would expect from Guild Wars and it’s nothing like how other classes are being played.
I’ve played around with builds on thieves, but in the end you are only kittening yourself if you don’t play it straightforward.
I respect your viewpoint but I disagree.
There’s quite a lot of innovative builds that people just look over.
Ever seen a Zerker’s shortbow build centering on Ice Drake Venom and Scorpion Wire (as well as shortbow #3)? It’s crazy. I myself can’t pull it off very well but I have a mate that just wrecks face using exactly that.
I’m sure you can have a lot of fun in WvW with that, and I’m not saying those are useless builds but I doubt you will do anything in PvE or sPvP. Meanwhile your warrior friend is critting for 5x the damage without actually working for it.
We are a squishy class, why are we so bad at ranged? And why are our supportive skills not getting a buff?
EDIT : maybe if thief had MORE poisons it would actually be worthwile
(edited by Ivonbeton.6814)