I apologize if there’s already a topic like this in the section.
I’m currently running berserker set of armor. I like to play with S/d and/or S/p , sometimes shortbow in rvr.
I use to change frequently traits between more stealth dependin one (ex: 10/30/30)
and something like this: 20/30/0/20/0.
For now i got all ruby orbs on my armor, i was wonderin if there are some sets of superior runes besides Divinity and Scholar that i could try and find useful, even loosin some Crit damage and chance.
I like to do a good amount of damage, but i’m not goin to be a pure glasscannon (i’m not so good at playin to run around Gc and survive ).
Thanx in advance for useful info and apologies for grammar errors( i’m not Eng.)
Scholar runes are useless for anything but burst specs. You’re rarely above 90% health as a thief. People just use them cause they copy others and don’t know better.
Divinity is alright but not great since they add useless stats as well. If you want survivability you’d be better off switching a few pieces around from zerker to valkyrie or knight’s and keeping the ruby orbs. And there’s a few other options to get some of both worlds, IE wurm runes.
^ great advice and a correct assessment of Divinity/Scholar.
Also, if you switch to Knights or Valkyrie armor (I assume you are using Berserker trinkets), consider possibly switching out the Ruby Orbs for Beryl Orbs (Valkyrie stat orbs). They have the same Power and CritDmg as Ruby Orbs; you just trade Precision for Vitality.
For s/d I use either ruby orbs or runes of the eagle. The extra critical chance and damage that eagle runes add are really nice. It comes down to how much you want to spend. Ruby orb are a great addition for what you pay. Good Luck
I use to go RvR with my thief mostly now; complete dailies and sometimes a run of CoF.
As for trinkets by now i have soldier back from Orr (karma), all others Valkyrie and one Berserker ring cause i am jeweler and i had materials for Valkyirie ones in inventory
I’ll check Pack and Wurm runes that some of you suggested, and il try out another armor set, maybe Valkyrie with ruby orbs:
I use to be always low on money so for now i won’t go for Divinity or similar.
I play a thief as main in a guild that focuses on WvW mostly.
Stats : 19,5k Life,2800 Armor,3250 attack,55% chance,88 CD
I call bs on those stats, there is no combination of equipment that gives all of those things at once. Thief can only manage 19k life with lots of vit boosting e.g. valks, which makes 55% cc impossible. 2800 armor isn’t possible with valks either, and 19.5k life isn’t possible with knight’s. 3250 attack as a thief requires extremely power-focused equipment and trait build, and probably the 180 signet passive. 55% cc is extremely hard without some rampagers.
Any thief with those stats would be so OP that it would be basically unstoppable if the player isn’t totally kitten
All depends on what you want from your thief and if you do WvW what your guild wants.
I play a thief as main in a guild that focuses on WvW mostly.
Stats : 19,5k Life,2800 Armor,3250 attack,55% chance,88 CD
A full Zerker thief cant provide that much and will not last in a sustained fight.
And being a free rally for the enemy is never a good thing.
how is this possible/ im wracking my brain. plz do explain :P
This is only possible by adding in buffs.
Equip Soldier’s weapons, Soldier’s armor + Beryl Orbs, a mix of Cavalier’s/BerzValk jewerly with a Soldier’s amulet (all Accended), and a Cavalier’s back piece.
This will leave your crit chance and crit damage lowish, so use Maintenance Oil and the Precision + 10% crit damage food, and then add in +250 Precision from a +10 Prec/kill Sigil. Maybe add in the Power and Precision Signets.
I never said my power was 3k+, i said my Attack was.
My power is about 2200 buffed with stacks.
Oh and the site does not include the chance from your signet of agility.
But including Food/Stacks into your build is part of the game.
Its the full stats that you will have, If you don’t die every 5 seconds.
Including food and bloodlust stacks in any build is idiotic.
Throwing that into buildcraft gets you 17k hp, 2k power, under 37% crit and under 2700 armor.
I agree with the second part.
Also, in my opinion, you’re wasting those prescious ascended slot pieces on a build that may be able to last, but doesn’t effectively do what a thief is supposed to do: assassinate someone.
Though if it works for you, keep it up. Everyone plays the game differently.
Including food and bloodlust stacks in any build is idiotic.
Throwing that into buildcraft gets you 17k hp, 2k power, under 37% crit and under 2700 armor.
I agree with the second part.
Also, in my opinion, you’re wasting those prescious ascended slot pieces on a build that may be able to last, but doesn’t effectively do what a thief is supposed to do: assassinate someone.
Though if it works for you, keep it up. Everyone plays the game differently.
As i understood the guy that made the post said he was interested in RvR and WvW,
If your running with a organized guild you dont go left and right ganking people.
You stick with your leader, Providing Blaster finishers, Your elite skill, Regen’s, Some Stealth AoE,And stay alive the whole time without having to run away and back to regain your health.
As i understood the guy that made the post said he was interested in RvR and WvW,
If your running with a organized guild you dont go left and right ganking people.
You stick with your leader, Providing Blaster finishers, Your elite skill, Regen’s, Some Stealth AoE,And stay alive the whole time without having to run away and back to regain your health.
Though if it works for you, keep it up. Everyone plays the game differently.
For example, I run with an organized group of 3 – 7. We are always fighting outnumbered. Our job is to pick apart zergs (within reason) and essentially just cause havoc. If I’m running with a group of 3 and using your build, we’d be dead because blast finishers and “staying alive” just doesn’t cut it without actually killing someone.
However, when we engage a group and I’m able to down someone in 2 seconds or less, the minor hysteria that follows by the enemy group trying to rez or evaluate our strength after a quick kill usually tips the scales more in our favor.
I suppose if you’re always running with an organized guild of more than say 10, then sure, you’re build may be useful. But I certainly wouldn’t recommend your build to roamers in smaller groups.
As a thief in full valkerie and the 5% of precision into vitality, I’m right around 19.5k, so yeah, that’s about right.
Anywho, I almost bought mesmer runes yesterday – thinking of trying a stun-lock build based on sword main hand, but I’m just not quite feeling adventurous enough.
Does the +33% from the 6th mesmer rune stack with the +15% from the sigil?
It seems like it should make our 2 second stuns tick for 3 seconds most of the time.
As a thief in full valkerie and the 5% of precision into vitality, I’m right around 19.5k, so yeah, that’s about right.
Anywho, I almost bought mesmer runes yesterday – thinking of trying a stun-lock build based on sword main hand, but I’m just not quite feeling adventurous enough.
Does the +33% from the 6th mesmer rune stack with the +15% from the sigil?
It seems like it should make our 2 second stuns tick for 3 seconds most of the time.
It does, that’s really the only thing keeping me in Mesmer Runes… Ability to stunlock silver mobs in dungeons is kinda great
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Does the +33% from the 6th mesmer rune stack with the +15% from the sigil?
It seems like it should make our 2 second stuns tick for 3 seconds most of the time.
I don’t know if the Mesmer runes stack with Sigil of Paralyzation. I might go test this in sPvP later. However, I do know that Sigil of Para by itself rounds up Tactical Strike’s Daze from 2s to 3s. I’ve tested this myself and it’s very easy to verify. Cheap to test too since Sigil of Para is only 2-5 silver.
Edit: curiosity got the best of me and I tested both in sPvP. Neither Sigil of Para nor Mesmer Runes x6 increased Tactical Strike Daze on the Heavy Golems.
I immediately went straight to WvW to make sure I wasn’t crazy about Sigil of Para increasing Daze time and easily verified that it does increase Daze to 3s. I’m not familiar with sPvP at all, so I don’t know if this was already known, but just thought I’d share.
I don’t have Mesmer runes in PvE/WvW, so I can’t test if they stack with Sigil.
My thief has about 19,700 health w/ mostly valkyrie, eagle sigils, etc.
My critical hit chance is hovering around 47-50% – but I want to try and improve that.
I’m thinking with an ascended amulet or better backpiece I can push things a little higher.
When it comes to playing a thief, I used to like going all-out damage and critical hits – but in so many instances it’s just not any fun to be dying all the time. Degen and one-shots will just drop you on your kitten so fast unless you’ve got some health to work with. For me, I’ll trade some dmg/crit for health so I can stay alive a little longer.
my general theory is – if I’m dead, I’m not dealing any damage anyway. So what’s the point of all this damage if I’m not alive long enough to dish it out?
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