Guild Wars 2

Why does Shadow Shot ignore projectile destruction or reflect? I use my Swirling Winds and thief just goes right through. Sure it’s not a big deal on bunker ele, but what about when I’m playing fresh air?

its because SS is unblockable, would have worked same if i put on basi then my black powder/headshot goes through any sort of projectile stuff

its to remind you of superiority of your d/p thief overlords

Lexander.4579:

its to remind you of superiority of your d/p thief overlords

^^

bluri.2653:

its because SS is unblockable, would have worked same if i put on basi then my black powder/headshot goes through any sort of projectile stuff

I don’t know if I can agree with this. At least remove their blind if it goes through projectile hate.

Tomiyou.3790:

bluri.2653:

its because SS is unblockable, would have worked same if i put on basi then my black powder/headshot goes through any sort of projectile stuff

I don’t know if I can agree with this. At least remove their blind if it goes through projectile hate.

It has nothing to do with agreeing or not, i simply told you how it works – this is how unblockable works in their coding

Tomiyou.3790:

bluri.2653:

its because SS is unblockable, would have worked same if i put on basi then my black powder/headshot goes through any sort of projectile stuff

I don’t know if I can agree with this. At least remove their blind if it goes through projectile hate.

In terms of the utility shadowshot provide I could agree IF it would still be the time when they changed the skill to unblockable (before it was unblockable, if you reflected it, you would have been ported to the thief ^^ ). Being offensive and defensive that powerful is a reason D/P is/was meta. Back then it turned out fast to be very strong. NOW with HoT the amount of skills being offensive AND defensive at the same time increased a lot. Thinking about current situation its fine. The blind being unblockable provides interesting plays like blinding shield 4 mes or shield of wrath guard.
Either everything gets reduced or skills subpar (I would say CnD is a good example here :P ) have to be brought up to everything else.

To give a little more context to why they made it unblockable: They’re unable to seperate the blind part of the skill from the melee attack. It was easy to abuse reflects pulling opponents to you against their will and attempting to stab you (not allowing them to dodge or cast abilities right after they were pulled). There was no counterplay to it in sPvP where you could pull a bunker guardian (they used to run reflect wall back in the day) and then steamroll them, and shortly thereafter, their team.

Hope that makes a little more sense.

Narcarsis.5739:

To give a little more context to why they made it unblockable: They’re unable to seperate the blind part of the skill from the melee attack. It was easy to abuse reflects pulling opponents to you against their will and attempting to stab you (not allowing them to dodge or cast abilities right after they were pulled). There was no counterplay to it in sPvP where you could pull a bunker guardian (they used to run reflect wall back in the day) and then steamroll them, and shortly thereafter, their team.

Hope that makes a little more sense.

true, anet loves the absence of counterplay on projectile walls so much that they even had to buff thief to preserve it

If it didn’t then you would get pulled to the thief lol.

Shadowstep.6049:

If it didn’t then you would get pulled to the thief lol.

Those were the days, now they should return it and give Thief large AoE damage….. wait that kind of reminds me of a class already…. lol

Shadowstep.6049:

If it didn’t then you would get pulled to the thief lol.

Correct, and it used to be this way. Developers realized a 900-range pull on no cooldown when against projectile hate/denial was actually kind of overpowered and unintentional.

I’m frankly surprised they haven’t just added a third invisible/no-animation “attack” that does 0 damage that inflicts the blind to make it able to be blocked.

Tomiyou.3790:

Why does Shadow Shot ignore projectile destruction or reflect? I use my Swirling Winds and thief just goes right through. Sure it’s not a big deal on bunker ele, but what about when I’m playing fresh air?

The shot portion is unblockable (hence immune from reflect) and does minimal damage. There are other abilities that share this feature such as Signet of Might and Blast Gyro. The melee portion isn’t subject to reflect but is to block. So if something is blocking, the shot hits, does minimal damage, blinds and proceeds to block the melee attack. Reflect does block 99% of targeted range skills and often has many a build sitting around waiting it out so lets not get too dramatic with these fairly minor exceptions.

As to why these skills exist partially a game mechanic issue I imagine and partially for balance.

there no ranged dmg on shadow shot to reflect dual skills act in 2 parts using offhand weapon first and then main hand so if you where to reflect shadow shot you only be reflecting teleport make scene you teleport to thief but teleport deal no dmg so reflecting it mean nothing lol.