Guild Wars 2

to specifically deal with thieves, where’s our version to deal with hammer warriors spamming aoe stuns, or engineers/mesmers stacking 10 stacks of confusion in seconds, or guardians spamming aoes which take off 1/2 your life without even needing to target you….

It’s amazing they invented an ability solely to ruin a thieves day.

They also invented a patch to ruin the class. Comes out dec 10.

Thief version of dealing with those builds is Shadow Return (sword #2). Oh, wait…

Pazu.8320:

Thief version of dealing with those builds is Shadow Return (sword #2). Oh, wait…

This.

Dual.8953:

Pazu.8320:

Thief version of dealing with those builds is Shadow Return (sword #2). Oh, wait…

This.

That indeed.

Don’t worry guys, we’ll just have to react to the stun, use a stun break, THEN use a .25 sec cast time shadow return, in less time than it takes for the warrior to use the next attack in their chain of cc.

Oh and we’ll have 0.33 more initiative regen per second. So everything will be fine.

Jakare.6807:

Don’t worry guys, we’ll just have to react to the stun, use a stun break, THEN use a .25 sec cast time shadow return, in less time than it takes for the warrior to use the next attack in their chain of cc.

Oh and we’ll have 0.33 more initiative regen per second. So everything will be fine.

Are you Sanduskel’s brother by chance?

Viking Jorun.5413:

Jakare.6807:

Don’t worry guys, we’ll just have to react to the stun, use a stun break, THEN use a .25 sec cast time shadow return, in less time than it takes for the warrior to use the next attack in their chain of cc.

Oh and we’ll have 0.33 more initiative regen per second. So everything will be fine.

Are you Sanduskel’s brother by chance?

I think that was just plain ol’ sarcasm

Sneek.6504:

Viking Jorun.5413:

Jakare.6807:

Don’t worry guys, we’ll just have to react to the stun, use a stun break, THEN use a .25 sec cast time shadow return, in less time than it takes for the warrior to use the next attack in their chain of cc.

Oh and we’ll have 0.33 more initiative regen per second. So everything will be fine.

Are you Sanduskel’s brother by chance?

I think that was just plain ol’ sarcasm

Oh, I see it now. Okay. False alarm.

I’ll just leave these here:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Swap
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Phase_Retreat

Look on the ranger boards and you’ll the rangers complaining that sic’em is useless and never works. Even though rangers are getting confused because they don’t understand revealed, I’m guessing that thieves are not bring driven out of PvP by sic pets.

wow, i keep telling you that warrior is the easier thing to kill for thieves, you even get one of the most usefull steal skill against warrior, if you disagree you are just bad. try against engi, ranger or necro

1st of all, cc chain? black powder and hes done, berserker stance ? kit him for 8 second or just pop in stealth. longbow pin down rifle killshot? whilring axe.
also wirling axe in black power? profit?

Lighter.5631:

wow, i keep telling you that warrior is the easier thing to kill for thieves, you even get one of the most usefull steal skill against warrior, if you disagree you are just bad. try against engi, ranger or necro

1st of all, cc chain? black powder and hes done, berserker stance ? kit him for 8 second or just pop in stealth. longbow pin down rifle killshot? whilring axe.
also wirling axe in black power? profit?

What build are you talking about exactly? D/P? Kind of hard to Black Powder when you’re already CC’d. Can Backstab even do enough damage to get past all the armour and regen?

Lighter.5631:

1st of all, cc chain? black powder and hes done, berserker stance ? kit him for 8 second or just pop in stealth. longbow pin down rifle killshot? whilring axe.
also wirling axe in black power? profit?

“Kite him for 8 seconds”

You realize how immense a bonus this in an organized competitive format, right? It’s not about “Can I eventually win this fight”, its “Can I win this fight in a reasonable amount of time”. Adding 8 seconds of kiting (and passive regen via HS) to a fight is more than long enough for a roamer to get to the fight, turning it into a 2v1. That’s just 1 scenario, there are plenty more.

Maugetarr.6823:

I’ll just leave these here:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Swap
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Phase_Retreat

Yep. I love how mesmers get stun breaks on their weapons but thieves are “overpowered” when we have it on one, because it’s spamable by design. Solution: up the initiative cost.

I don’t think I’ve ever noticed “Sic’Em” being used for the desired effect.

You guys shouldn’t worry or feel threaten anymore, because lately, we discover thieves are immune to sick-em.

In other word, rejoice thieves, and continue your full unjust assaults in decapitating the under privilege weaker class; ranger.

As the saying goes, ’what used to uplift the weak, now make them weaker"

-Ranger-

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/Thieves-are-immune-to-Sick-em/first#post3253288

Viking Jorun.5413:

Maugetarr.6823:

I’ll just leave these here:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Swap
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Phase_Retreat

Yep. I love how mesmers get stun breaks on their weapons but thieves are “overpowered” when we have it on one, because it’s spamable by design. Solution: up the initiative cost.

Or reduce the range of the return to be on par with these. Their CD’s are traitable to 7.25 and 6 seconds respectively (relatively spammable).

who exactly is getting killed by sick em?

it is a bad wvw/pvp skill, even with the reveal. probably taken by less than 10% of rangers considering the other options.

hammer warriors have counters. blind/condi damage/evade/stability. and its not really the hammer thats the problem, its the healing signet.

idk…

Stealth trap
sic’ em
4 secs in pvp
cant do dmg in stealth
cant cap nodes in stealth

there are a lot of “cons” to using stealth and anti stealth gifts out there. not like there are clone traps or minion traps etc….. i think sic em is a lil much….and 2000 range? wtf

Jakare.6807:

Don’t worry guys, we’ll just have to react to the stun, use a stun break, THEN use a .25 sec cast time shadow return, in less time than it takes for the warrior to use the next attack in their chain of cc.

Oh and we’ll have 0.33 more initiative regen per second. So everything will be fine.

Ya, Thieves will just have to play 10x harder than they already do now to beat other faceroll classes.

Don’t worry guys we are the best gathering and crafting profession.

Viking Jorun.5413:

Maugetarr.6823:

I’ll just leave these here:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Swap
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Phase_Retreat

Yep. I love how mesmers get stun breaks on their weapons but thieves are “overpowered” when we have it on one, because it’s spamable by design. Solution: up the initiative cost.

Phase retreat is not a stun break. It’s a teleport that can be used while stunned.
Swap is a stun-break. To be used, i-leap must have already been used, and within the past 5 seconds. It is occasionally useful, but it must be planned beforehand, and can be easily countered by simply not stunning for those 5s. It is typically better for juking than stun breaking.

Requiem.8769:

Viking Jorun.5413:

Maugetarr.6823:

I’ll just leave these here:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Swap
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Phase_Retreat

Yep. I love how mesmers get stun breaks on their weapons but thieves are “overpowered” when we have it on one, because it’s spamable by design. Solution: up the initiative cost.

Phase retreat is not a stun break. It’s a teleport that can be used while stunned.
Swap is a stun-break. To be used, i-leap must have already been used, and within the past 5 seconds. It is occasionally useful, but it must be planned beforehand, and can be easily countered by simply not stunning for those 5s. It is typically better for juking than stun breaking.

Phase retreat and swap work how they said they no longer want infiltrators return to work was the main point of the comment.

Zacchary.6183:

Don’t worry guys we are the best gathering and crafting profession.

Someone help me, there’s a veteran mob guarding this rich mining node!

This sounds like a job for… Superstealth!