Guild Wars 2

Change Steal-related traits to apply their effects (if possible) without targeting someone with Steal (if it goes on full cooldown anyway, why not give us this option):

• Mug ’s heal
• Bountiful Theft ’s 15s vigor
• Kleptomaniac ’s initiative gain
• Hidden Thief ’s 2s stealth
• already works with Thrill of the Crime

Change Steal so if it’s used out of range it doesn’t cancel skills already being casted (biggest issue is: use Dagger Storm, use Steal from 900+ range while channeling, Dagger Storm is interrupted).

Change Long Reach to allow Steal to hit its other trait effects (mainly the daze from Sleight of Hand and the damage from Mug, or the posion from Serpent’s Touch) even when the target is obscured from your starting location(as long as Steal teleports to a non-obscured position). This change is pretty much needed to make this trait a viable option – how often does it happen (especially in sPvP on Khylo or Niftel) that your target is at 1500 range and not obscured? And if they are obscured, why would you use Steal just to shadowstep to them and waste all the other effects you are given from traits?
And the basic mechanic of Steal (shadowstep to enemy) works on obscured targets to begin with.

Aleth.9630:

Change Steal-related traits to apply their effects (if possible) without targeting someone with Steal (if it goes on full cooldown anyway, why not give us this option):

• Mug ’s heal
  No enemies →Autoregeneration
• Bountiful Theft ’s 15s vigor
  No Enemies → Dodge is unnecessary
• Kleptomaniac ’s initiative gain
  No enemies→ unnecessary, why no weaponskill are necessary
• Hidden Thief ’s 2s stealth
  No enemies→ why would you want to stealth
• already works with Thrill of the Crime

Black Teagan.9215:

Aleth.9630:

Change Steal-related traits to apply their effects (if possible) without targeting someone with Steal (if it goes on full cooldown anyway, why not give us this option):

• Mug ’s heal
  No enemies ->Autoregeneration
• Bountiful Theft ’s 15s vigor
  No Enemies -> Dodge is unnecessary
  Dodge past potential enemies to avoid getting in combat?
• Kleptomaniac ’s initiative gain
  No enemies-> unnecessary, why no weaponskill are necessary
  Weapon skills can be used for mobility so 3 initiative would actually be of use even out of combat
• Hidden Thief ’s 2s stealth
  No enemies-> why would you want to stealth
  To sneak past potential enemies or stack stealth?
• already works with Thrill of the Crime

Just because you’re ignorant and don’t want additional options to use your Steal doesn’t mean others don’t need it either. And what if I told that you don’t always want to shadowstep to an enemy in melee range but you want those effects? And as I said, if it goes on cooldown instead of saying “You do not have a target to use this skill.” (like the rest of such skills), why not make it useful instead of it going to waste.

they should all happen regardless of choosing a target. they also might let it be like a shadowstep so wehn u steal you just go forward 900-1500 in any direction.

Using Steal without a target doesn’t mean there are no enemies around. You can clear your target any time by just clicking on the ground, even during combat. The only caveat is you need to have auto-targeting disabled, otherwise Steal would automatically choose the enemy closest to you as the new target.

I agree with the OP’s suggestion in this respect. We can use Steal as a disengaging mechanism this way for the swiftness/stealth/healing/dodges it would provide when traited without also being teleported to melee range. If it goes on full cooldown, why should we not be able to gain the benefits of our traits?

Aleth.9630:

Just because you’re ignorant[…]

You defeated whatever semblance of respect you thought you deserved with that one remark.

doubleomar.2165:

Aleth.9630:

Just because you’re ignorant[…]

You defeated whatever semblance of respect you thought you deserved with that one remark.

Don’t go off-topic please. If you have something like that to say, PM me.

Sigh, I feel like these aren’t read by staff members, it’ll probably end up like my suggestion about Retaliation, ignored and implemented many months later.

Hidden thief works without target. Used it the other day during the barrage phase
in the Mai Trin bossfight to prolong my sr stealth.

It’s strange however, that the other traits do not.