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Posted by: Forzani.2584

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Just got to 80 today. Will be cruising around in WvW trying to find 1v1 fights. My first attempt at a build after monitoring this forum the past month or two.

Going condition with Venom Aura. Only had a couple of fights so far and did well. I feel pretty slow and vulnerable since no swiftness and not good at CnD yet. I was thinking to use both weapon sets to make sure I get the conditions applied. Not sure if it is a good idea or stick to one set mostly. Both will proc bleed when switched.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vYAQRAoY6YlsMpppFNx7JsPNhw9wpgqnyrgDq9QmspYC-zUCBoODimWAkkOQkHwZSFRjtsuIas6GYKWER1eFFRrmUALKNC-w

Open to any ideas and suggestions. Be harsh if need be since I R n00b

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Posted by: Eugenides.1274

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Just two quick things, I’m sure other people who play condi thieves can give you better advice.

Venom Share: I’m assuming you’re running this to pair up with Thieves Guild, but to be honest if you’re just looking for 1v1, you may want to just go for regen in stealth.

Perplexity: Why, exactly? You have no interrupts or stuns.

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Posted by: Forzani.2584

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Yes the Venom Share is for Thieves Guild. The damage seems silly over the top when I use it.

I use perplexity because it does have good condition + in the stats and the added condition does decent damage but also gives me another cover for the poison/bleed. Not that I am married to the idea though and open to something else.

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Posted by: Splatter Paw.7238

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Try squeezing scorpion wire on your utility bar, it acts as a interrupt, plus the duration it takes them to stand allows a free CnD for stealth. It’s on a nice little 20 sec timer to

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Posted by: Galsia.4102

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If you swap to Traveler Runes and use Giver weapons you can reach 100% Condition Duration. Under those circumstances you could then drop Potent Poison to get either Mug or Venomous Strength. You’d also be gaining a movement speed increase which helps you connect your CnDs.

There are a few other things I’d change, but I feel that’d stray too far from what you’re trying to achieve.

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Posted by: Eugenides.1274

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Going with what Galsia said, Potent Poison seems to be a bit of a waste. You already have poison on Steal for 17 seconds, 5 strikes of 10 1/4 second poison on Spider Venom, and 6 3/4 seconds on your dagger auto attack. Not to mention the venom share stacking on your two thieves from your elite.

Mug or Venomous Strength would be a good change as suggested earlier.

You may also want to consider swapping Trickery 10: Instinctual Response for Thrill of the Crime if you want to keep the Perplexity runes. That little burst of swiftness can be helpful. You can use it for the standard CnD+Steal opener or you can just clear your target and give you and your allies swiftness, might, and fury on the use of Steal. Similar to Last Refuge (Shadow Arts minor trait), Instinctual Response can often put you into stealth when you don’t want or need it and you end up putting reveal on yourself unnecessarily. I generally avoid any traits that unexpectedly put you into stealth.

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Posted by: swinsk.6410

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Forzani from Daoc ? I’d recommend anything but venom share for solo roaming .

Just another noob thief…

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Posted by: Forzani.2584

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Forzani from Daoc ? I’d recommend anything but venom share for solo roaming .

It’s all true

Yea, played a few hours with it. Doesn’t feel right. Although thought maybe it was me being new to the class. Haven’t found the groove yet.

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Posted by: Carpboy.7145

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If you want a condi build try this

Full dire or carrion. Carrion is a lot squishier bu you do more dmg. Dire is pretty much invincible. Traits go 10/0/30/0/30. Grab perplexity runes with sleight of hand, and scorpion wire
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQRAqY6YlUmiO3eS7E/5EB3DnaUo694rj1saFoJA-jkCB4iDimWAkkOQ0HwZqFRjtsuIasKZER1KlYmbDRzkL1CBsYNA-w
You can also use caltrops instead of scorpion wire or shadow refuge. I just prefer it the way it is


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Posted by: Forzani.2584

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Thanks for the condi build. Going to take a look at it.

I switch every couple weeks between condi and a more typical build. When fighting Thieves I was always impressed by the ones that would get in, get out. Rinse/repeat. Sustained pressure and damage. Was very tough to fight. Would something like this represent that style of play? I wasn’t sure if it was enough damage.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vYAQRAoa8YlsMp3plPx7J0PNRw9wpItpePK7YNrWBaC-z0BBYLDiO5pIaslhFRjVvATZCQdaR1eDFRrmUA6pMC-w

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Posted by: Carpboy.7145

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Posted by: Forzani.2584

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If you want a condi build try this

Full dire or carrion. Carrion is a lot squishier bu you do more dmg. Dire is pretty much invincible. Traits go 10/0/30/0/30. Grab perplexity runes with sleight of hand, and scorpion wire
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQRAqY6YlUmiO3eS7E/5EB3DnaUo694rj1saFoJA-jkCB4iDimWAkkOQ0HwZqFRjtsuIasKZER1KlYmbDRzkL1CBsYNA-w
You can also use caltrops instead of scorpion wire or shadow refuge. I just prefer it the way it is

I like it. The same weapon set just to get endurance boost on swap?

was wondering about Leeching venom. There is only 1 Venom in the build. I’m not sure exactly how that works..ie how often it procs. Better than Shadows rejuvination?

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Posted by: Forzani.2584

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lol zero offense taken. Just looking for some good advice. Will take a look at yours shortly.

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Posted by: Carpboy.7145

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If you want a condi build try this

Full dire or carrion. Carrion is a lot squishier bu you do more dmg. Dire is pretty much invincible. Traits go 10/0/30/0/30. Grab perplexity runes with sleight of hand, and scorpion wire
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQRAqY6YlUmiO3eS7E/5EB3DnaUo694rj1saFoJA-jkCB4iDimWAkkOQ0HwZqFRjtsuIasKZER1KlYmbDRzkL1CBsYNA-w
You can also use caltrops instead of scorpion wire or shadow refuge. I just prefer it the way it is

I like it. The same weapon set just to get endurance boost on swap?

was wondering about Leeching venom. There is only 1 Venom in the build. I’m not sure exactly how that works..ie how often it procs. Better than Shadows rejuvination?

No thats just to show what to use after you get full corruption stacks. Just use standard SB as swap. Hydromancy/geomancy are also good, however remember energy and vigor synergies great with uncatchable. It should be shadows rejuvenation. I think i messed up with the link or something


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Posted by: Zero Day.2594

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I’ll be the first to say this, since it will happen inevitably….
That’s such a cheesy OP build….
Not only cheesy but also buttery…

:| There.

(I really didn’t look, which is as much evaluation you will get from someone that says “cheesy” or “OP”.
But really, GJ, I have no opinion for that build.)

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Posted by: Hype.8032

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Venom share with thieves guild is some of the lamest crap I’ve ever seen. If it fails do you just run away? Try 5/0/30/15/20 and you can get +100% bleed duration if I remember right. You won’t get any better relying on thieves guild in a 1v1.

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Posted by: Forzani.2584

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Venom share with thieves guild is some of the lamest crap I’ve ever seen. If it fails do you just run away? Try 5/0/30/15/20 and you can get +100% bleed duration if I remember right. You won’t get any better relying on thieves guild in a 1v1.

I don’t think you need to run away when TG is down. It helps burst though …like many other elites or utilities.

You can settle down though, today I altered the build a bit as carspoy suggested. No Venom share.

Gotta try everything to find my mojo

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