Guild Wars 2

Thief

• Weakening Strikes: Updated the trait facts to include the damage reduction from weakened enemies (10%).

Let’s hear your thoughts.

With a buff like that, expect to see some consistent nerfs for the next several years.

THEY MADE STEAL TARGET ONLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NINJA NERF!

/seppuku

Doggie.3184:

THEY MADE STEAL TARGET ONLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NINJA NERF!

/seppuku

You’re kidding. There’s no way…

Edit: spelling…can’t even think straight.

audio file bug too, i just changed weapons and my toon said “thank you”.

At least we didn’t get the visual noise nerf.

Sees title, imagines how beatifull that parallel world has to be
Quite bizarre tho. On a serious note: what does that even mean?
Is it just saying -10% ? Although to be honest I completly forgot about that thing.

Sir Vincent III.1286:

At least we didn’t get the visual noise nerf.

What are you talking about, dude we need these to make the game playable!<

This was just a trait note fix. In other words it was already there ?

TPMN.1483:

This was just a trait note fix. In other words it was already there ?

Apparently, it was discussed in that one thread after all.

Cyhann.2609:

Sees title, imagines how beatifull that parallel world has to be
Quite bizarre tho. On a serious note: what does that even mean?
Is it just saying -10% ? Although to be honest I completly forgot about that thing.

Sir Vincent III.1286:

At least we didn’t get the visual noise nerf.

What are you talking about, dude we need these to make the game playable!<

By extension, we kinda did get the visual noise nerf. Leaping on an Ethereal will result in a less noisy Chaos Armor.

I felt the visual nerf so much. Running with an aura share ele, I felt so visually under powered. Going to have to buy electo dyes and wacky armour skins now.

Doggie.3184:

THEY MADE STEAL TARGET ONLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NINJA NERF!

/seppuku

The thread containing the most likely reason as to why.

Maugetarr.6823:

Doggie.3184:

THEY MADE STEAL TARGET ONLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NINJA NERF!

/seppuku

The thread containing the most likely reason as to why.

Yup. Introduce a faulty unfinished feature and nerf the skills to accommodate this feature to hide its flaws. Because it’s the skills fault why such a faulty feature doesn’t work correctly — logic understood.

Sir Vincent III.1286:

Maugetarr.6823:

Doggie.3184:

THEY MADE STEAL TARGET ONLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NINJA NERF!

/seppuku

The thread containing the most likely reason as to why.

Yup. Introduce a faulty unfinished feature and nerf the skills to accommodate this feature to hide its flaws. Because it’s the skills fault why such a faulty feature doesn’t work correctly — logic understood.

To be fair, I don’t see it as a nerf. At worst a neutral change.

I mean OOC thieves can still use signet of shadows. In combat thieves can use steal.

I would be mad if they’d nerfed SB#5. This is a minor change.

Maugetarr.6823:

Sir Vincent III.1286:

Maugetarr.6823:

Doggie.3184:

THEY MADE STEAL TARGET ONLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NINJA NERF!

/seppuku

The thread containing the most likely reason as to why.

Yup. Introduce a faulty unfinished feature and nerf the skills to accommodate this feature to hide its flaws. Because it’s the skills fault why such a faulty feature doesn’t work correctly — logic understood.

To be fair, I don’t see it as a nerf. At worst a neutral change.

I mean OOC thieves can still use signet of shadows. In combat thieves can use steal.

I would be mad if they’d nerfed SB#5. This is a minor change.

Thrill of the Crime was good in parties for 5 person swiftness and fury, even when out of combat (such as running from one place to another). Now that you need a target it can no longer be used on cooldown with no target to gain the associated boons. It’s NOT a neutral change, it’s absolute lose.

[Embrace the Darkness]

Maybe next year we can hope for widthdraw changes and few more balances similar to the new Steal.

For starters I would like to see:

• Blinding powder applying Self-blind.

• Shadow Refuge: Radius reduced to 120 (this promotes more counter to stealth for all classes)

• Basilik Venom: Increased CD to 60s.

• All venoms now apply only one charge when used, and share a cooldown. We felt venoms were overly complicated to use and our intent was always that the thief used them to compliment alpha strikes or as party support with venmous aura, so we have normalized them to better fit our vision and reinforce the purity of venoms.

• Removed skill recharge from Improvisation. We felt that the random nature of improvisation didn’t promote skillful play. It is our opinion that gaining extra stolen items is a more skillful feature, and so we have in stead changed this trait to grant three stolen items and increase the cooldown of steal by 10%.

GoZero.9708:

Maugetarr.6823:

Sir Vincent III.1286:

Maugetarr.6823:

Doggie.3184:

THEY MADE STEAL TARGET ONLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NINJA NERF!

/seppuku

The thread containing the most likely reason as to why.

Yup. Introduce a faulty unfinished feature and nerf the skills to accommodate this feature to hide its flaws. Because it’s the skills fault why such a faulty feature doesn’t work correctly — logic understood.

To be fair, I don’t see it as a nerf. At worst a neutral change.

I mean OOC thieves can still use signet of shadows. In combat thieves can use steal.

I would be mad if they’d nerfed SB#5. This is a minor change.

Thrill of the Crime was good in parties for 5 person swiftness and fury, even when out of combat (such as running from one place to another). Now that you need a target it can no longer be used on cooldown with no target to gain the associated boons. It’s NOT a neutral change, it’s absolute lose.

Out of combat it would have only been good for the swiftness and there are much better ways in a party of getting swiftness than wasting steal.

Maugetarr.6823:

GoZero.9708:

Maugetarr.6823:

Sir Vincent III.1286:

Maugetarr.6823:

Doggie.3184:

THEY MADE STEAL TARGET ONLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NINJA NERF!

/seppuku

The thread containing the most likely reason as to why.

Yup. Introduce a faulty unfinished feature and nerf the skills to accommodate this feature to hide its flaws. Because it’s the skills fault why such a faulty feature doesn’t work correctly — logic understood.

To be fair, I don’t see it as a nerf. At worst a neutral change.

I mean OOC thieves can still use signet of shadows. In combat thieves can use steal.

I would be mad if they’d nerfed SB#5. This is a minor change.

Thrill of the Crime was good in parties for 5 person swiftness and fury, even when out of combat (such as running from one place to another). Now that you need a target it can no longer be used on cooldown with no target to gain the associated boons. It’s NOT a neutral change, it’s absolute lose.

Out of combat it would have only been good for the swiftness and there are much better ways in a party of getting swiftness than wasting steal.

i saved myself when i used steal without a target. I was in a situation where i was low, just used shadowstep to escape from far, and had no other utilities to stop the mesmer’s gs auto attack.

Silverbolt.2301:

Thief

• Weakening Strikes: Updated the trait facts to include the damage reduction from weakened enemies (10%).

Let’s hear your thoughts.

… not actually a buff… at all. Even weakened you can be built as tanky as a thief can get and you’re a one shot, for any class though especially dragonhunter.