Thieves need nerf
Heh, you had me there for a second.
Part-time Kittenposter
this made me lol, really.
full zerker ele complaining about getting bursted down.
i could probably 1-shot you with my backstab omg
Hey! You wrote Thieves instead of Thiefs!
Seriously though, I know you were trying to keep traits at 14 points each, but you can’t put points into toughness and vitality lines! That cuts into the DEEPS!
10/10.
For those of you wondering look at the build
This post had me going for a bit lol
:D Just to be on the safe side, added your post to the nerf wish list…
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/Nerf-Wish-list
Please stop littering the forums, and use that post to request nerfs…
This is fake, the title would have said Thiefs need nerf
Wait…Rangers can kill things?
That’s right, thieves need a nerf in nerfs.
Btw “Thieves” is correct, “Thiefs” it’s not.
-Charr Thief-
It’s good to be bad!
That build, just Wow
NERF THEEEFS!
[NOX] & [Coma] – Gunnar’s Hold.
Wait…Rangers can kill things?
Yes! They are really good at it!
Ok, this is it.
I was solo roaming in WvW with my ele. I don’t usually have many problems killing stuff: coyotes, skelks, yaks, and sentries go down really fast and don’t cause much problems.However, everytime I find a thief, no matter what, I just die. And the problem is, I can’t even see him!
I just go around, then bam! Dead! I got hit by 18k spikes out of nowhere. And when I see the thief in front of me and I manage to avoid his attack, he will just go in stealth in another gimmicky way and backstab me from behind! I can’t even use my heal, because his burst is on a 0s CD!For reference, this is my build: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fEEQJAodnEElXbdN6GQYrAhcIDDHIgxBQQkittenHiBA-jkxAYrAm8KiGbLoIasKJMVJRUtToIa1yAYPCA-w
I seriously hope Anet will fix stealth because at the moment it’s just too much. I get killed sometimes by zerker rangers, but at least I can see them and if I get killed it’s because they are good (their bear hits really hard and must require a lot of micromanagement to be effective!). But when it comes to thieves, it’s just 0 risk, 101% reward, go stealth kill people #yolomode
Hi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HiYUlhsO_M
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obsidian flesh 4 sec invulnerability shocking aura stun when they hit u burning speed to reposition ur self and keep theif farther away from a back stab plus u can dodge twice these are some very simple ways for u to solve the issue just be better at ur class instead of calling for nerfs pls and if they are D/D then dodge the very telegraphed cloak and dagger skill and they will run out of utilities to go invis with
obsidian flesh 4 sec invulnerability shocking aura stun when they hit u burning speed to reposition ur self and keep theif farther away from a back stab plus u can dodge twice these are some very simple ways for u to solve the issue just be better at ur class instead of calling for nerfs pls and if they are D/D then dodge the very telegraphed cloak and dagger skill and they will run out of utilities to go invis with
Lol.
This is obviously a troll thread or you are incredibly new to PvP.
- Classes are different playstyles.
- Build matters.
- Player’s ability in PvP matters.
- Environment matters.
You can kill an NPC fast as a Zerk Ele.. well done.
PvP is completely different.
Yes, I’ll admit Thieves do have extremely high burst, and they are probably the best 1v1 class in-game. Ele’s on the other hand have the best AoE burst in-game.
I don’t see any Thieves going to Ele forum and complaining they died in a blob fight because an Ele was hitting them 4k’s with Fire Storm in a huge radius?
Ele can give group support and buffs.
Ele is the only class that can destroy siege far back within walls.
Ele has superior AoE.
Thief has none to little of these, I don’t see many (if any at all) threads in your sub-section by Thieves complaining?
Every class/build fits into their own slot of what it’s intended to do. Thieves are almost only for DPS as they provide little Support. Ele can do all, and at that.. within the 1 build.
I crafted a Thief to 80 2 weeks ago and as much as I enjoy it at the moment, I’m slowly getting bored of it due to being tunneled into playing full DPS.
I have a 66 Ele I occasionally work on by playing SPvP for +1 level tomes. I can’t say I’ve played much of my Ele (more than my Thief though) but I will say that it’s far more enjoyable for sure.
EDIT: IGNORE ALL OF THE ABOVE, THIS IS CLEARLY TROLL THREAD. I’LL COPY AND PASTE INTO THE NEXT “NERF THIEVES” THREAD. !!!ONEONE111ONEONE!!ONE11!!ONE!
(edited by Zach.3264)
This is obviously a troll thread or you are incredibly new to PvP.
- Classes are different playstyles.
- Build matters.
- Player’s ability in PvP matters.
- Environment matters.
You can kill an NPC fast as a Zerk Ele.. well done.
PvP is completely different.Yes, I’ll admit Thieves do have extremely high burst, and they are probably the best 1v1 class in-game. Ele’s on the other hand have the best AoE burst in-game.
I don’t see any Thieves going to Ele forum and complaining they died in a blob fight because an Ele was hitting them 4k’s with Fire Storm in a huge radius?Ele can give group support and buffs.
Ele is the only class that can destroy siege far back within walls.
Ele has superior AoE.Thief has none to little of these, I don’t see many (if any at all) threads in your sub-section by Thieves complaining?
Every class/build fits into their own slot of what it’s intended to do. Thieves are almost only for DPS as they provide little Support. Ele can do all, and at that.. within the 1 build.
I crafted a Thief to 80 2 weeks ago and as much as I enjoy it at the moment, I’m slowly getting bored of it due to being tunneled into playing full DPS.
I have a 66 Ele I occasionally work on by playing SPvP for +1 level tomes. I can’t say I’ve played much of my Ele (more than my Thief though) but I will say that it’s far more enjoyable for sure.
LOL
This is obviously a troll thread or you are incredibly new to PvP.
- Classes are different playstyles.
- Build matters.
- Player’s ability in PvP matters.
- Environment matters.
You can kill an NPC fast as a Zerk Ele.. well done.
PvP is completely different.Yes, I’ll admit Thieves do have extremely high burst, and they are probably the best 1v1 class in-game. Ele’s on the other hand have the best AoE burst in-game.
I don’t see any Thieves going to Ele forum and complaining they died in a blob fight because an Ele was hitting them 4k’s with Fire Storm in a huge radius?Ele can give group support and buffs.
Ele is the only class that can destroy siege far back within walls.
Ele has superior AoE.Thief has none to little of these, I don’t see many (if any at all) threads in your sub-section by Thieves complaining?
Every class/build fits into their own slot of what it’s intended to do. Thieves are almost only for DPS as they provide little Support. Ele can do all, and at that.. within the 1 build.
I crafted a Thief to 80 2 weeks ago and as much as I enjoy it at the moment, I’m slowly getting bored of it due to being tunneled into playing full DPS.
I have a 66 Ele I occasionally work on by playing SPvP for +1 level tomes. I can’t say I’ve played much of my Ele (more than my Thief though) but I will say that it’s far more enjoyable for sure.LOL
Thanks for that in-depth response.
He got you good
Dem traits yo.. Dat food… lulz.
This is obviously a troll thread or you are incredibly new to PvP.
- Classes are different playstyles.
- Build matters.
- Player’s ability in PvP matters.
- Environment matters.
You can kill an NPC fast as a Zerk Ele.. well done.
PvP is completely different.Yes, I’ll admit Thieves do have extremely high burst, and they are probably the best 1v1 class in-game. Ele’s on the other hand have the best AoE burst in-game.
I don’t see any Thieves going to Ele forum and complaining they died in a blob fight because an Ele was hitting them 4k’s with Fire Storm in a huge radius?Ele can give group support and buffs.
Ele is the only class that can destroy siege far back within walls.
Ele has superior AoE.Thief has none to little of these, I don’t see many (if any at all) threads in your sub-section by Thieves complaining?
Every class/build fits into their own slot of what it’s intended to do. Thieves are almost only for DPS as they provide little Support. Ele can do all, and at that.. within the 1 build.
I crafted a Thief to 80 2 weeks ago and as much as I enjoy it at the moment, I’m slowly getting bored of it due to being tunneled into playing full DPS.
I have a 66 Ele I occasionally work on by playing SPvP for +1 level tomes. I can’t say I’ve played much of my Ele (more than my Thief though) but I will say that it’s far more enjoyable for sure.LOL
Thanks for that in-depth response.
Dude, he listed off nothing but NPCs in WvW, said Rangers have to micromanage their pets, and his build was loaded to the brim with human racials. What part of this is not a joke thread?
Part-time Kittenposter
Bweh, it was cool do write that kind of stuff then 20 first times.
This is obviously a troll thread or you are incredibly new to PvP.
- Classes are different playstyles.
- Build matters.
- Player’s ability in PvP matters.
- Environment matters.
You can kill an NPC fast as a Zerk Ele.. well done.
PvP is completely different.Yes, I’ll admit Thieves do have extremely high burst, and they are probably the best 1v1 class in-game. Ele’s on the other hand have the best AoE burst in-game.
I don’t see any Thieves going to Ele forum and complaining they died in a blob fight because an Ele was hitting them 4k’s with Fire Storm in a huge radius?Ele can give group support and buffs.
Ele is the only class that can destroy siege far back within walls.
Ele has superior AoE.Thief has none to little of these, I don’t see many (if any at all) threads in your sub-section by Thieves complaining?
Every class/build fits into their own slot of what it’s intended to do. Thieves are almost only for DPS as they provide little Support. Ele can do all, and at that.. within the 1 build.
I crafted a Thief to 80 2 weeks ago and as much as I enjoy it at the moment, I’m slowly getting bored of it due to being tunneled into playing full DPS.
I have a 66 Ele I occasionally work on by playing SPvP for +1 level tomes. I can’t say I’ve played much of my Ele (more than my Thief though) but I will say that it’s far more enjoyable for sure.LOL
Thanks for that in-depth response.
and his build was loaded to the brim with human racials. What part of this is not a joke thread?
Still… my favorite part is the traits lol.
ALL IS VAIN!!
/15char
[GoF] Smiks – Guardian/Necro
Thief/Mesmer Alts
This thread should embody the hundreds of other threads made by people who request nerf for thieves.
This kind of people usually:
_know nothing about the Thief class
_know nothing about PvP
_(usually) claim to be really good players
_(usually) know nothing about their own class as well
_don’t even try to get better at the game and ask for nerfs instead
_will not change their mind ever
_say that every thief is a noob and that other classes “require skill” to be played
It’s kinda funny that not every user here actually got this
Man, another noob ele complaining about thieves……
If you’re so bad you can’t even pick your traits right it’s not a thief problem..
Arcane abatement is useless, “fall” doesn’t really help if you “fall dead”. Take cantrip mastery instead, it really fits the build and you’ll see those thiefs “fall dead”: they have a lot of knockdowns from permastealth and reducing cooldown on your cantrips will make the difference, especially with your build.
Also, swap the crest of the saman for more magis, the extra healing power will make the difference against those stupid thieves.
Man, another noob ele complaining about thieves……
If you’re so bad you can’t even pick your traits right it’s not a thief problem..
Arcane abatement is useless, “fall” doesn’t really help if you “fall dead”. Take cantrip mastery instead, it really fits the build and you’ll see those thiefs “fall dead”: they have a lot of knockdowns from permastealth and reducing cooldown on your cantrips will make the difference, especially with your build.
Also, swap the crest of the saman for more magis, the extra healing power will make the difference against those stupid thieves.
LMFAO! OP knows how to pull a good troll
Ok, this is it.
I was solo roaming in WvW with my ele. I don’t usually have many problems killing stuff: coyotes, skelks, yaks, and sentries go down really fast and don’t cause much problems.However, everytime I find a thief, no matter what, I just die. And the problem is, I can’t even see him!
I just go around, then bam! Dead! I got hit by 18k spikes out of nowhere. And when I see the thief in front of me and I manage to avoid his attack, he will just go in stealth in another gimmicky way and backstab me from behind! I can’t even use my heal, because his burst is on a 0s CD!For reference, this is my build: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fEEQJAodnEElXbdN6GQYrAhcIDDHIgxBQQkittenHiBA-jkxAYrAm8KiGbLoIasKJMVJRUtToIa1yAYPCA-w
I seriously hope Anet will fix stealth because at the moment it’s just too much. I get killed sometimes by zerker rangers, but at least I can see them and if I get killed it’s because they are good (their bear hits really hard and must require a lot of micromanagement to be effective!). But when it comes to thieves, it’s just 0 risk, 101% reward, go stealth kill people #yolomode
Very well said
You are the million player to confirm and experience this outrageousness class design.
So the next question is.
How many more years will it take for our concerns to be heard and addressed ?
4+ years ??
I say 10+ years
whose with me?
(edited by Burnfall.9573)
Ok, this is it.
I was solo roaming in WvW with my ele. I don’t usually have many problems killing stuff: coyotes, skelks, yaks, and sentries go down really fast and don’t cause much problems.However, everytime I find a thief, no matter what, I just die. And the problem is, I can’t even see him!
I just go around, then bam! Dead! I got hit by 18k spikes out of nowhere. And when I see the thief in front of me and I manage to avoid his attack, he will just go in stealth in another gimmicky way and backstab me from behind! I can’t even use my heal, because his burst is on a 0s CD!For reference, this is my build: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fEEQJAodnEElXbdN6GQYrAhcIDDHIgxBQQkittenHiBA-jkxAYrAm8KiGbLoIasKJMVJRUtToIa1yAYPCA-w
I seriously hope Anet will fix stealth because at the moment it’s just too much. I get killed sometimes by zerker rangers, but at least I can see them and if I get killed it’s because they are good (their bear hits really hard and must require a lot of micromanagement to be effective!). But when it comes to thieves, it’s just 0 risk, 101% reward, go stealth kill people #yolomode
Very well said
You are the million player to confirm and experience this outrageousness class design.
So the next question is.
How many more years will it take for our concerns to be heard and addressed ?
4+ years ??
I say 10+ years
whose with me?
Troll doesn’t realize Troll…
Many lolz ensue…
lolz…
Ok, this is it.
I was solo roaming in WvW with my ele. I don’t usually have many problems killing stuff: coyotes, skelks, yaks, and sentries go down really fast and don’t cause much problems.However, everytime I find a thief, no matter what, I just die. And the problem is, I can’t even see him!
I just go around, then bam! Dead! I got hit by 18k spikes out of nowhere. And when I see the thief in front of me and I manage to avoid his attack, he will just go in stealth in another gimmicky way and backstab me from behind! I can’t even use my heal, because his burst is on a 0s CD!For reference, this is my build: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fEEQJAodnEElXbdN6GQYrAhcIDDHIgxBQQkittenHiBA-jkxAYrAm8KiGbLoIasKJMVJRUtToIa1yAYPCA-w
I seriously hope Anet will fix stealth because at the moment it’s just too much. I get killed sometimes by zerker rangers, but at least I can see them and if I get killed it’s because they are good (their bear hits really hard and must require a lot of micromanagement to be effective!). But when it comes to thieves, it’s just 0 risk, 101% reward, go stealth kill people #yolomode
Very well said
You are the million player to confirm and experience this outrageousness class design.
So the next question is.
How many more years will it take for our concerns to be heard and addressed ?
4+ years ??
I say 10+ years
whose with me?
ROFL did you look at his build? Once you do you will realize this entire post was a joke.
…
…
LOL.
Wonderful, in this case it certainly would have paid of to read some of the comments before jumping in. Just proves something, I suppose.
>.> You know a part of me to a certain degree actually believes this post, and that the build might be a legit one someone used…
:( I’m sorry…
i remember this one back in the good old days, " Thief 19.8k Backstab critic"
Since than. how much damage thief can do?
Is it more or less-so-called “nerf”?
If less….
Please! provide patch date of proof
-thanks-
Notice November 2012 patch.
Where their damage is “nerfed”
1.Tactical Strike: This skill’s damage has been increased by 10% in all formats. This skill’s daze duration has been reduced from 2 seconds to 1.5 seconds in PvP.
2. Cluster Shot: This skill’s damage is reduced by 15% in PvP.
3. Cloak and Dagger: This skill’s damage has been reduced by 33% in PvP only.
Obviously,
you see what i see…
There goes thief balance.
There goes thiefs’ Future.
PVP
seriously,
(who does pvp for the sake of balance?)
<not me>(edited by Burnfall.9573)
Hey! You wrote Thieves instead of Thiefs!
Seriously though, I know you were trying to keep traits at 14 points each, but you can’t put points into toughness and vitality lines! That cuts into the DEEPS!
thiefs…..sarcasm right?
Didn’t you know teefs are invulnerable in stealth?
AikijinX- [Mada] [MILF] [HUNT] 7.3k Thief Hours
Defend Your Back
Ok, this is it.
I was solo roaming in WvW with my ele. I don’t usually have many problems killing stuff: coyotes, skelks, yaks, and sentries go down really fast and don’t cause much problems.However, everytime I find a thief, no matter what, I just die. And the problem is, I can’t even see him!
I just go around, then bam! Dead! I got hit by 18k spikes out of nowhere. And when I see the thief in front of me and I manage to avoid his attack, he will just go in stealth in another gimmicky way and backstab me from behind! I can’t even use my heal, because his burst is on a 0s CD!For reference, this is my build: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fEEQJAodnEElXbdN6GQYrAhcIDDHIgxBQQkittenHiBA-jkxAYrAm8KiGbLoIasKJMVJRUtToIa1yAYPCA-w
I seriously hope Anet will fix stealth because at the moment it’s just too much. I get killed sometimes by zerker rangers, but at least I can see them and if I get killed it’s because they are good (their bear hits really hard and must require a lot of micromanagement to be effective!). But when it comes to thieves, it’s just 0 risk, 101% reward, go stealth kill people #yolomode
Very well said
You are the million player to confirm and experience this outrageousness class design.
So the next question is.
How many more years will it take for our concerns to be heard and addressed ?
4+ years ??
I say 10+ years
whose with me?
ROFL did you look at his build? Once you do you will realize this entire post was a joke.
Do you really need to go all the way to look at the build to prove that this is a troll thread? xD
Well your full zerker and have no source of protection as well as nothing to help you on attunement swap. I do admit that some things of a thief need a bit of a nerf; however such a thing may never be, and that is okay because a thief can be killed in just a couple hits with some AoE bursts
Oh man, you had my going for the first few lines, but LOL at the people who got fooled, especially the master troll, Burnfall.
Where have you been, Burnsy? I’ve missed your vocal opposition of tyranny.
all is vain
hahahahahahah strong build
Ok, this is it.
I was solo roaming in WvW with my ele. I don’t usually have many problems killing stuff: coyotes, skelks, yaks, and sentries go down really fast and don’t cause much problems.However, everytime I find a thief, no matter what, I just die. And the problem is, I can’t even see him!
I just go around, then bam! Dead! I got hit by 18k spikes out of nowhere. And when I see the thief in front of me and I manage to avoid his attack, he will just go in stealth in another gimmicky way and backstab me from behind! I can’t even use my heal, because his burst is on a 0s CD!For reference, this is my build: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fEEQJAodnEElXbdN6GQYrAhcIDDHIgxBQQkittenHiBA-jkxAYrAm8KiGbLoIasKJMVJRUtToIa1yAYPCA-w
I seriously hope Anet will fix stealth because at the moment it’s just too much. I get killed sometimes by zerker rangers, but at least I can see them and if I get killed it’s because they are good (their bear hits really hard and must require a lot of micromanagement to be effective!). But when it comes to thieves, it’s just 0 risk, 101% reward, go stealth kill people #yolomode
Hahahah best build ever !
You know, what’s even more sad is that most of the whining posts are written even worse than this one :p
Good job, that was fun !
Lmao why dont you run the OP 14/14/14/14/14 build it insta counters thieves.
I just scrolled down, and read the start of your post. No that’s not true, if you ask me they should boost thiefs, they got nuked down because they don’t generate that much initiative anymore. I don’t play a thief, but my bro does, mostly PvP, and he’s running a build in which you have to evade pretty much 100% of the time to survive, and he’s running out of initiative… Don’t cry, get better. Thief’s aren’t a problem. Warrior’s are stronger then thief’s definetly, because in PvP they have high survivability, high dmg, massive mobility, CC and condis …..
It is really hilarious how many people do not even read enough to see this is a troll thread. Fail, uber fail.
The amount of facepalm in this thread is over 9000 and still raising…
These QQ threads need nerfs themselves
AikijinX- [Mada] [MILF] [HUNT] 7.3k Thief Hours
Defend Your Back
The amount of facepalm in this thread is over 9000 and still raising…
The trolling in this post is over 9000 !
dat op 14/14/14/14/14 build needs a big nerf.