Guild Wars 2

when they can down a player in 1 to 3 hits?
People complained about retaliation and confusion until they were nerfed, people are complaining about stealth now, I ask why when you can still almost 1 hit down a player when running a glass thief. Seems to me thieves are over powered. Don’t get me wrong, I have a thief , mesmer and necro, Nither the necro or mesmer can down a player in so few hits.

Yes, you can almost 1 hit a person with a glass thief.

Which implies that any other person can down them in almost as many hits as well.

It’s not a matter of being OP, it’s a matter of getting ambushed, healing, and then retaliating. Then it’s just a free stomp.

if you are traveling with a partner theres no way a GC thief should win. period. if they do you suck :P not trying to be mean but its a L2 kitten ue. i prefer fighting GC thieves over ANYONE else in the game. literally….serve em up plz.

Agreed. Gc thieves usually die as fast as they can kill unless they are of incredibly exceptional skill, but even then, one mess up and they are toast. People seem to just recently be discovering the potential of non gc thieves, the ones you really need to look out for…

Theives are underpowered in every single way except as a glass cannon in PvP. The only reason they aren’t underpowered there is because Stealth synergizes particularly well with a glass cannon build specifically in 1v1 pvp due to the way it allows you to ambush and escape. It is not nearly as good in any other situation, but they keep taking hits across the board due to this mechanical problem.

That’s why they complain.

shame there is no 1v1 pvp mode, only chance encounters in spvp and solo roamers in wvw that think its awesome to run around in full zerker by themselves and then complain incessantly when they die to anyone (though specially if its a thief)

Yeah, 1v1 ladder and you wouldn’t see a single thief in the top 1000 – i swear …

I’m a thief. I don’t complain… lol

I enjoy the profession, and make my own builds, youtube heroes are overrated (most of those videos they are fighting complete idiots).

The only thing I would complain about is if they continue nerfing thief. They have seen enough nerfs to last a lifetime, its time people l2p. If people at this late in the game have yet to come across the numerous ways to counter stealth, then go back to pve. Play the way you want to, don’t force others to be subject to the nerf bat just because you (speaking to those who want more thief nerfs) arn’t skilled enough to handle a profession who has the defensive stats/boons of a rabbit.

TreeSerpent.3176:

when they can down a player in 1 to 3 hits?

Because they can’t.
The glassiest cannon in all Berserkertown could not kill a fellow glass cannon in 1-3 hits.
I don’t think you could kill an up-leveled level 2 in WvW in a single hit.

Grimwolf.7163:

TreeSerpent.3176:

when they can down a player in 1 to 3 hits?

Because they can’t.
The glassiest cannon in all Berserkertown could not kill a fellow glass cannon in 1-3 hits.
I don’t think you could kill an up-leveled level 2 in WvW in a single hit.

u can….but u die right after usually.

High risk, high reward. I think that’s how it’s called.

You kill really fast and you die really fast.

exactly. i agree :P

Travlane.5948:

Grimwolf.7163:

TreeSerpent.3176:

when they can down a player in 1 to 3 hits?

Because they can’t.
The glassiest cannon in all Berserkertown could not kill a fellow glass cannon in 1-3 hits.
I don’t think you could kill an up-leveled level 2 in WvW in a single hit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10rFzGjIEEM

u can….but u die right after usually.

Ah, yeah. I forgot at the very least that certain classes only have ~10,000 Health base.

what do u mean grimwolf?

Travlane.5948:

Grimwolf.7163:

TreeSerpent.3176:

when they can down a player in 1 to 3 hits?

Because they can’t.
The glassiest cannon in all Berserkertown could not kill a fellow glass cannon in 1-3 hits.
I don’t think you could kill an up-leveled level 2 in WvW in a single hit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10rFzGjIEEM

u can….but u die right after usually.

What Trav said. Sorry, but the idea that a GC couldn’t down another GC that quickly is… Ridiculous. But realize that if your enemy so much as sneezes, you’re dead.

yeah….so even with mug doing 6k….u are still dead :P you could do 100k with a burst…wont matter much.

Was fighting a p/d gc thief. He came out of stealth to backstab me. All I had to do was mirror-images-blurred frenzy- mind wrack and he dropped from full to 0. Thieves are NOT at all the only class that can pull off crazy burst

Bursting 1v2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq1sGqeMN4I
Full match:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9TBEKwbLyU
Sorry for quality.

Jumper.9482:

Bursting 1v2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq1sGqeMN4I
Full match:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9TBEKwbLyU
Sorry for quality.

Just sayin’ but that’s pre-quickness nerf.

Jumper.9482:

Bursting 1v2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq1sGqeMN4I
Full match:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9TBEKwbLyU
Sorry for quality.

Love those thieves in the start of the vid. Each one opened with heartseeker, sustainted with heart seeker, and rage quit with them dying b.c of heartseeker.

GC thieves..do anyone other than upleveled WvW players get killed by these guys..still?? And btw thieves are not the biggest burst class at all, unless you are an upleveled WvW player looking at the flowers. Turbowhale was quite correct about that if you don’t know how to handle mesmers you’ll go down very quickly.

Grimwolf.7163:

TreeSerpent.3176:

when they can down a player in 1 to 3 hits?

Because they can’t.
The glassiest cannon in all Berserkertown could not kill a fellow glass cannon in 1-3 hits.
I don’t think you could kill an up-leveled level 2 in WvW in a single hit.

They sure can. mug 1k, BS 9k, cloack and dagger 5k = 15k,. Also, warrior KS: 12-18k.

I duel as a glass mesmer and I tend to lose to zerger thieves who know how to handle that type fight. Though such fight is essentially coin flipping, with right use of stealth skills the thief can alter the weight of the coin a little.

TreeSerpent.3176:

Nither the necro or mesmer can down a player in so few hits.

where i play, you can’t attack players….

TreeSerpent.3176:

when they can down a player in 1 to 3 hits?.

you gotta be pretty bad to get downed by a thief (of any kind) in 1-3 hits.
and no, we don’t complain about players like that.

All I can say is that I just got done with a 2v1 fight against a Guardian.

Me and another Thief, full Zerker. She wouldn’t die. Period.

Against a Warrior. 2v1. We just BARELY managed to down him.

Thieves damage is good for literally a second, then it does down the crapper. Burst Thieves are a nightmare to play against equally geared opponents. I can’t speak for Sword Thieves, but I sure hope they have a better time against armored opponents than D/D.

Full burst thief in wvw in dumb. Sure, if you find a 1v1 AND you get the jump AND they don’t react quick enough AND it’s not a class with passive immunity at 25% you will down the player.

Note, I said down. Stomping the player is even harder than downing the player.

TreeSerpent.3176:

when they can down a player in 1 to 3 hits?
People complained about retaliation and confusion until they were nerfed, people are complaining about stealth now, I ask why when you can still almost 1 hit down a player when running a glass thief. Seems to me thieves are over powered. Don’t get me wrong, I have a thief , mesmer and necro, Nither the necro or mesmer can down a player in so few hits.

Because everyone else complains about thieves constantly. The amount of QQing on the forums is ridiculous.

We wouldn’t care if Anet didn’t seem to listen to the whining.. There appear to be some people who hate anything other than whack it with an axe in an open field.