Guild Wars 2

Now that the list of changes have arrived, what build are you looking forward to trying?

I honestly thought 6/0/6/0/6 was going to be the way to go, but now, I don’t even know about Shadow Arts at all. I can see myself trying the following…

6/6/0/6/0 for direct damage

DA:
Mug
Panic Strike
Executioner

CS:
Flawless Strike
Practiced Tolerance
No Quarter

ACRO:
Pain Response
Hard to Catch
Don’t Stop

6/0/0/6/6 for direct damage

DA:
Mug
Revealed Training
Improvistation

ACRO:
Vigorous Recovery
Hard to Catch
Don’t Stop

TRICK:
Flanking Strike
Bountiful Theft
Sleight of Hand

I haven’t even looked at condi builds yet, but I’m excited! :-D

I was going to make a thread like this, but you saved me the hassle.
Current Build: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fZAQNAsYVl0MpvplOxyJ8PNBNBt9wbQE8eMfpMaFAA-TlCEABT8ACSRHgd7P8kyP90iAimACOFC4o+DAHBADVCGAABIdGA25OP6R35RLFg5CjA-w

Post Patch Build (66006)

Deadly Arts:
Mug
Revealed Training
Executioner

Critical Strikes:
Flawless Strike
Practiced Tolerance
No Quarter

Trickery:
Flanking Strikes
Bountiful Theft
Sleight Of Hand

AikijinX.6258:

I was going to make a thread like this, but you saved me the hassle.
Current Build: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fZAQNAsYVl0MpvplOxyJ8PNBNBt9wbQE8eMfpMaFAA-TlCEABT8ACSRHgd7P8kyP90iAimACOFC4o+DAHBADVCGAABIdGA25OP6R35RLFg5CjA-w

Post Patch Build (66006)

Deadly Arts:
Mug
Revealed Training
Executioner

Critical Strikes:
Flawless Strike
Practiced Tolerance
No Quarter

Trickery:
Flanking Strikes
Bountiful Theft
Sleight Of Hand

Especially for PvP more or less this could be the meta (very similar to the 26006).
Some thoughts from me:
Panic Strike over Revealed Training
About Flanking Strike, maybe thrill of crime? Or where do you get Fury for No quarter?

I´m not happy with that development though :/
I will miss the condiremove in stealth, but I just don´t want full kitten SA to be meta. -_-

Coronit.9432:

Or where do you get Fury for No quarter?

Arghhh, you had to ruin my fun with your details! :-P

I guess I’ll have to go 6/6/0/0/6 also. But I really like Hard to Catch and Don’t Stop! :-P

Kageseigi.2150:

Coronit.9432:

Or where do you get Fury for No quarter?

Arghhh, you had to ruin my fun with your details! :-P

I guess I’ll have to go 6/6/0/0/6 also. But I really like Hard to Catch and Don’t Stop! :-P

I liked acrobatic for S/D. Don´t know if I will like it. What I know is that normally NO ONE wants a thief giving up damage for survivability. And acrobatic doesn´t give more damage anymore. Rune of strength viable at all with just might on signet?

I can’t wait to see what people come up with for s/d. With reveal becoming so abundant, it’s time to evade spam people to death.

Drennon.7190:

I can’t wait to see what people come up with for s/d. With reveal becoming so abundant, it’s time to evade spam people to death.

For S/D? You remember the old ones before S/D acro? 66006, 66060 (well, I wouldn´t bet on that one without trickery ^^). Maybe 60066 gets viable. But with a lot less evade. Feline Grace nerfed, vigor nerfed (Nerfception, the nerfed Feline Grace got itself nerfed), you have to choose between condiremove or vigor, both in acro and trickery. Don´t underestimate the lack of boonduration.

Coronit.9432:

What I know is that normally NO ONE wants a thief giving up damage for survivability.

Oh, I don’t want to give up damage either. I just know that I deal a LOT more damage when I’m alive than dead, hehe. I REALLY have to work on staying alive without as much survivability.

Drennon.7190:

I can’t wait to see what people come up with for s/d. With reveal becoming so abundant, it’s time to evade spam people to death.

I’ve been running with s/d as my second set for when I can’t do enough damage with d/x. I’m going to enjoy all of the whining and tears when everybody gets what they’ve been asking for. So many skills I need to learn so I can cause tears also! :-D

this isnt OP but i dont wana stack up threads regarding new thief’s so…. recommend me one good thief guide ( youtube,forum)? im new, and have no clue on how to dmg an enemy.. also how do other thief stay in stealth for more than 10second? im D/P panic strike ( metabuild )

Kageseigi.2150:

Coronit.9432:

What I know is that normally NO ONE wants a thief giving up damage for survivability.

Oh, I don’t want to give up damage either. I just know that I deal a LOT more damage when I’m alive than dead, hehe. I REALLY have to work on staying alive without as much survivability.

Drennon.7190:

I can’t wait to see what people come up with for s/d. With reveal becoming so abundant, it’s time to evade spam people to death.

I’ve been running with s/d as my second set for when I can’t do enough damage with d/x. I’m going to enjoy all of the whining and tears when everybody gets what they’ve been asking for. So many skills I need to learn so I can cause tears also! :-D

Well, in guild-raids or PvP you are used for your mobility together with damage in order to burst targets (low health ones or through +1 a fight) or just decap nodes in PvP. SA isn´t usefull there. You can´t kill someone when in stealth or cap something. You need to kill targets as fast as possible. The longer you need, more dangerous it becomes. For Roaming or 1vs1 SA is simply OP, end of story. Acrobatic was giving S/D survivability together with more damage (might on dodge, fluid strikes). Because of the lack of damage from S/D it got pushed out of the meta. Now acrobatic gives even less damage and survivability. I will try out S/D 66006 though.
“I’ve been running with s/d as my second set for when I can’t do enough damage with d/x.” What? Dagger normally does more damage while S/D is lacking there. ^^

Jay.3409:

this isnt OP but i dont wana stack up threads regarding new thief’s so…. recommend me one good thief guide ( youtube,forum)? im new, and have no clue on how to dmg an enemy.. also how do other thief stay in stealth for more than 10second? im D/P panic strike ( metabuild )

Guide Book of Shadows
Guides Some very useful Guides. Just to tired to search more
You should at least be able to get 3 heartseeker through the black powder field. With a little bit of practice 4 are easy to achieve, too. Then restealth, chain refuge or blinding powder etc. Permastealth isn´t possible with a normal meta-build.

Coronit.9432:

What? Dagger normally does more damage while S/D is lacking there. ^^

I have no explanation whatsoever. All I know is when I was facing tankier builds, my damage and survivability went up when I swapped to s/d. Maybe I was spamming Flanking/Larcenous Strike too much… maybe the boon stealing really buffed me… maybe, even, I was too predictable with d/d. But when I started swinging a sword, things started dying… so I just went with it :-P

Kageseigi.2150:

Coronit.9432:

What? Dagger normally does more damage while S/D is lacking there. ^^

I have no explanation whatsoever. All I know is when I was facing tankier builds, my damage and survivability went up when I swapped to s/d. Maybe I was spamming Flanking/Larcenous Strike too much… maybe the boon stealing really buffed me… maybe, even, I was too predictable with d/d. But when I started swinging a sword, things started dying… so I just went with it :-P

Haha, ok ^^
Survivability is definitily better on S/D than D/D, no question, but D/P has a lot of survivability through blinds, (3 which is a port and high damage and 5), damage (1,2,3 and backstab) and the poison on AA-chain is useful against tankier ones as well.

Critical strikes tree really feels subpar. Is it just me or DA and Tricks got some really hard choices to make embedded on them while other trait lines are meh… I would go DA SA tricks most likely for pvp.

For pvp, I will definitely run venom share, no matter what build I am on.

These new traits make for some interesting ideas for builds and some place there are actually some hard choices. I have noticed a trend of not taking Thrill of the Crime which was like unthinkable before but now people are actually choosing not to take it in the future. I really like the idea of things getting mixed up.

DA and CS look like they could pair up for some nice damage.

Deadly Arts
Trapper’s Respite
Revealed Training
Executioner

Critical Strikes
Flawless Strikes
Practiced Tolerance
No Quarter

Shadow Arts
Shadow’s Embrace
Hidden Thief
Shadow’s Rejuvenation

I love running with the Shadow Trap which when triggered and activating Shadow Pursuit gives 5s of Stealth and Fury and 10 stacks of Might for 10s. With Trapper’s Respite it gives and additional 5 stacks of Might of 8s and 5 stacks of Vulnerability for 10s. I’ll even drop this thing right in the middle of a team fight to give me a sudden shadowstep and stealth. The Fury with the traits in CS line will be a nice addition to critical damage.

Coronit.9432:

AikijinX.6258:

I was going to make a thread like this, but you saved me the hassle.
Current Build: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fZAQNAsYVl0MpvplOxyJ8PNBNBt9wbQE8eMfpMaFAA-TlCEABT8ACSRHgd7P8kyP90iAimACOFC4o+DAHBADVCGAABIdGA25OP6R35RLFg5CjA-w

Post Patch Build (66006)

Deadly Arts:
Mug
Revealed Training
Executioner

Critical Strikes:
Flawless Strike
Practiced Tolerance
No Quarter

Trickery:
Flanking Strikes
Bountiful Theft
Sleight Of Hand

Especially for PvP more or less this could be the meta (very similar to the 26006).
Some thoughts from me:
Panic Strike over Revealed Training
About Flanking Strike, maybe thrill of crime? Or where do you get Fury for No quarter?

I´m not happy with that development though :/
I will miss the condiremove in stealth, but I just don´t want full kitten SA to be meta. -_-

I’ve been playing this build for a long time now, over 9 months respectively. So a side of me is kinda happy that the acrobatics line isn’t as strong.