Going to WvW for some roaming. I got some extra money from sPvP.
So I got a question, Which one is better, Dire or Rabid for condition warrior?
For the love of god don’t make a condition warrior. Build a full zerkers set with full divinity runes and practice with that. Condition warriors are useless.
Rabid, the precision is needed for crit based traits in a bunker build.
Despite the above answer, bunker warriors can be quite effective, rabid gear is also super cheap, so it’s easy to give it a go.
Dire. The only benefit you get from rabid is a 3 sec bleed. Thats not worth 6k health. Not to mention with dire you get 30% crit chance, 40% with a sword, and 60% with fury.
Here is a sample of what you should aim for
3.4k armor, 25k health, 30% crit chance, and 2k condi dmg is such a beast. You can easily get bleed ticks of 3k+, and burn, and torment for 1k+
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Rabid is fine. Ignore the troll about running zerk build (if you don’t like that build)
I run a condition warrior for WvW and it is very fun and has no real issues (PU mesmers are so so)..
I run sword/sword and longbow. in WvW those bleeds add up really FAST (along with torment and burns). 1100 bleed ticks is common.
@ Interpretor, really mate?
Warriors with Rabid/dire gear and certain builds can absolutely faceroll every profession in wvw solo roaming (In a fair 1v1, that is). That’s why I personally refrain from using it, because it is op and thankfully it gets a slight nerf with the pin down telegraph.
In PVP not so much, because there is no condi duration food and no dire gear, so it’s a bit!! more even there.
Well played condition warriors beat almost every build in this game, period.
If you like facerolling people, go ahead, otherwise i’d go for a power build which is way more fun.
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For the love of god don’t make a condition warrior. Build a full zerkers set with full divinity runes and practice with that. Condition warriors are useless.
You lost all validity when you suggested divinity runes.
Going to WvW for some roaming. I got some extra money from sPvP.
So I got a question, Which one is better, Dire or Rabid for condition warrior?
dire is better then rabid esp with upcoming changes to crits.
carrion gives power which is more effeicent at dps then precision.
rabid will give you a higher crit chance so uses furious and our bleed traits better.
with that said only major benfit is the toughness rabid gives.
my 2 cents.
with that said wvw do not go zerker and for zerging use dire above all else for condtions.
roaming would probably be best with carrion gear mind you that not something I’ve done or had a chance to test.
honestly go with dire it gives you that extra bulk which is something our condition need to be effective and allows you the option to go into zerg vs zerg more effectively should you desire it.
I main a s/s lb warrior and am pretty good at it.
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Condition Warriors are only useless in zerg fights because most of their condi application are limited to mostly single targets.
Pindown will realistically only hit one person, you will rarely immobilize more then 1-2 people using flurry, let alone for the full duration. Sword offhand is single target. Fan of Fire is for the most part one-two targets. Only true AoE condi application is combustive fire, but it is terrible as a condi damage dealer because it takes so kitten long to pulse and burns do not stack in intensity and it really isn’t a whole of damage anyway compared to a power build.
However they are really powerful in in 1v1, 2v2, 3v3. The build tends to dwindle down dramatically past 4-5 people due to the amount of condition removal and how much harder it is to lockdown people.
For the love of god don’t make a condition warrior. Build a full zerkers set with full divinity runes and practice with that. Condition warriors are useless.
….Why would you EVER run full zerker with divinity in WvW…? Sweet mother of stat inefficiency…
And Condi warriors are fine for roaming/small group fights, although they are naturally inferior to hammer warriors for zergs/bigger groups.
0/10. Wouldn’t read again.
I have something like this planned for my warrior when I get around to gearing it up for some conditions/bunkering
For the love of god don’t make a condition warrior. Build a full zerkers set with full divinity runes and practice with that. Condition warriors are useless.
….Why would you EVER run full zerker with divinity in WvW…? Sweet mother of stat inefficiency…
And Condi warriors are fine for roaming/small group fights, although they are naturally inferior to hammer warriors for zergs/bigger groups.
0/10. Wouldn’t read again.
0/10 Wouldn’t consider experienced player.
plz youtube t3hsanny and try to tell him divinity is bad.
For the love of god don’t make a condition warrior. Build a full zerkers set with full divinity runes and practice with that. Condition warriors are useless.
….Why would you EVER run full zerker with divinity in WvW…? Sweet mother of stat inefficiency…
And Condi warriors are fine for roaming/small group fights, although they are naturally inferior to hammer warriors for zergs/bigger groups.
0/10. Wouldn’t read again.
0/10 Wouldn’t consider experienced player.
plz youtube t3hsanny and try to tell him divinity is bad.
his videos are very out dated.
celestial although it will take some time to aquire
celestial although it will take some time to aquire
can you tell me about your experience with celestial on warrior? I got the charged crystals now and was wondering if it’s wondering if it’s worth to make ascended celestial for warrior. My friends keeps telling me that it’s waste of gold ._.
celestial although it will take some time to aquire
can you tell me about your experience with celestial on warrior? I got the charged crystals now and was wondering if it’s wondering if it’s worth to make ascended celestial for warrior. My friends keeps telling me that it’s waste of gold ._.
It is a waste of time. There is no middle ground in GW2, because it’s bad. Trying to be good at everything means you’re good at nothing.
Celestial means you give up stats you want for stats you don’t.
vita, toughness everyone uses
healing power I use cause I have 4 healing shouts (soldier runed) with adrenal shouts trait.
power/precision/crit dmg and you can still do actual dmg not to mention final thrust/arc shot.
and ofcoarse condition dmg. you can easily get 6 stacks of might, sigil of corruption, guard leech. buffed I can tic for ~100bleeds and ~600 burns.
Roaming isn’t spvp. You will take forever trying to bleed and burn an npc down. You want some attack dmg. I often see people say you cant zerg on a condition warrior. I have yet to feel like its not possible. I can explain further if you are still interesested in condition warrior that isn’t glass.
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0/10 Wouldn’t consider experienced player.
plz youtube t3hsanny and try to tell him divinity is bad.
I’ll tell you for him: Runes of divinity are kitten nuggets. And L2P while you’re at it.
In sPvP they’re somewhat useful due to the absence of many of the WvW min-maxing options. In WvW they’re generally a waste as you’re giving away free points in relevant stats for negligible scattershot bonuses in irrelevant stats. It makes a proper min-maxer cry a little inside.
Same issue as Celestial gear, with the exception that celestial head and chest gear can actually be useful due to the higher ratio of normal stat-to-crit damage.
celestial although it will take some time to aquire
can you tell me about your experience with celestial on warrior? I got the charged crystals now and was wondering if it’s wondering if it’s worth to make ascended celestial for warrior. My friends keeps telling me that it’s waste of gold ._.
It is a waste of time. There is no middle ground in GW2, because it’s bad. Trying to be good at everything means you’re good at nothing.
Celestial means you give up stats you want for stats you don’t.
ehm celestial stats are all usable by hybrid warrior. And warrior has hybrid weapons like sword and longbow. There’s nothing in celestial what you wouldn’t want as hybrid warrior. It wont be best at anything, it will have medium everything. Survival ability, mobility, healing, dmg(which can’t be countered as it is bouth power and condi). This is why I want it. I do not want to be the glass cannon aka best in dmg. I do not want to be the tank. I want to survive in WvW while dealing good dmg.
Dire. The only benefit you get from rabid is a 3 sec bleed. Thats not worth 6k health. Not to mention with dire you get 30% crit chance, 40% with a sword, and 60% with fury.
Here is a sample of what you should aim for
3.4k armor, 25k health, 30% crit chance, and 2k condi dmg is such a beast. You can easily get bleed ticks of 3k+, and burn, and torment for 1k+
Don’t use missile Deflection in a Condition build. Cuz when you block a projectile in melee range with reposte it wont count as a block it counts as a reflect and thus it wont trigger the bleed on block which is the whole point of that skill besides the block part.
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Dire. The only benefit you get from rabid is a 3 sec bleed. Thats not worth 6k health. Not to mention with dire you get 30% crit chance, 40% with a sword, and 60% with fury.
Here is a sample of what you should aim for
3.4k armor, 25k health, 30% crit chance, and 2k condi dmg is such a beast. You can easily get bleed ticks of 3k+, and burn, and torment for 1k+
Don’t use missile Deflection in a Condition build. Cuz when you block a projectile in melee range with reposte it wont count as a block it counts as a reflect and thus it wont trigger the bleed on block which is the whole point of that skill besides the block part.
Id always rather have a 2 sec block than a measly 3x bleed
Dire all the way for a SwSw/LB warrior. The extra survivability is well worth the few extra bleeds you’d get fro crits. Runes of Anitoxin are kind of nice, extra condition power, condition reduction, and 5 stacks of might vs almost any other condition class.
Riposte with Missile Deflection will still trigger the attack for things like barrage if in melee range. Basically anything non-projectile which may or may not have been obvious. However, if not in melee range it will continue to block with or without missile deflection for the duration.
I love missle deflection for the lol factor. MANY things are considered projectiles in this game. I’ve stealthed myself with a rangers hunters shot, I’ve had guardians eat their own binding blades. I have yet to see if mirror blade will create a clone or if the skill is even deflectable. On spvp isle the mesmer there uses a non-clone version but I can’t seem to reflect it anyhow.
Edit
Oh kitten , wiki says unblockable.
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Dire. The only benefit you get from rabid is a 3 sec bleed. Thats not worth 6k health. Not to mention with dire you get 30% crit chance, 40% with a sword, and 60% with fury.
Here is a sample of what you should aim for
3.4k armor, 25k health, 30% crit chance, and 2k condi dmg is such a beast. You can easily get bleed ticks of 3k+, and burn, and torment for 1k+
Don’t use missile Deflection in a Condition build. Cuz when you block a projectile in melee range with reposte it wont count as a block it counts as a reflect and thus it wont trigger the bleed on block which is the whole point of that skill besides the block part.
Id always rather have a 2 sec block than a measly 3x bleed
Its a 4x bleed and 4x bleed isn’t small. Plus it continues to block ranged attacks for the duration without missile deflection. It did not used to do this but ANET fixed it ahwile back. You get the 2sec block no mater what. If we went with that build you posted that would 555 damage per second in addition to whatever other stacks you have applied. So if you already had 4 stacks then did a reposte that is like 1110 damage a sec vesy easy to do that.
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Dire. The only benefit you get from rabid is a 3 sec bleed. Thats not worth 6k health. Not to mention with dire you get 30% crit chance, 40% with a sword, and 60% with fury.
Here is a sample of what you should aim for
3.4k armor, 25k health, 30% crit chance, and 2k condi dmg is such a beast. You can easily get bleed ticks of 3k+, and burn, and torment for 1k+
Don’t use missile Deflection in a Condition build. Cuz when you block a projectile in melee range with reposte it wont count as a block it counts as a reflect and thus it wont trigger the bleed on block which is the whole point of that skill besides the block part.
pretty sure riposte doesn’t work that way I’m quite confident that inorder to gain the bleeds it has to block a melee attack but it will block projectiles until i’ts time is up.
I’m usually ~top 50 in team queue and ~top 25 in soloqueue. Sorry guys :/.
First of all, you never specified what you were doing. I run full divinity and zerker when I run a destroyer build zerging with my guild. I do not run it when roaming in WvW. Relax guys <3. It’s going to be ok.
EDIT: If you want my destroyer build just PM me, I’ll be happy to do so.
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I’m usually ~top 50 in team queue and ~top 25 in soloqueue. Sorry guys :/.
First of all, you never specified what you were doing. I run full divinity and zerker when I run a destroyer build zerging with my guild. I do not run it when roaming in WvW. Relax guys <3. It’s going to be ok.
EDIT: If you want my destroyer build just PM me, I’ll be happy to do so.
He did specifiy, he wants to go WvW roaming, and was asing advice on gearing a condition build. SwSw/LB is quite strong makes excellent roaming builds. Also, I don’t think anybody cares if you are top whatever in PvP.
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