Guild Wars 2

Hi

I just started this game and I am playing a warrior. Whenever I see people in the mists pvp they spam me when i beat them saying im playing an easy class.

Why do they act this way? Is something wrong with the warrior?

Currently there are many Warriors who abuse a sort of ‘stun-lock’ build. This has lead to people feeling the entire Warrior class is OP and broken. They also say Healing Signet is too powerful. I have only one piece of advice for you in regards to people PMing you angry messages:

“SHAKE IT OFF!”

lol, funny seeing you over here Peow. Rolled a warrior too. They are soo easy to play.
I’ve managed to solo champs under geared with power/prec stats without using heal.
Tanked multiple mobs 2-3, even 4 lvls higher then me.
Can run through zones without losing any health.

Havent been in pvp yet, but its easy mode in PvE

Peow peow.2189:

Why do they act this way? Is something wrong with the warrior?

only if your warrior name is Chop chop.

There is nothing wrong with the warrior, and it is not an over-powered class. Most people in the mists are garbage and don’t queue up with balanced builds. These people are susceptible to scrub-stomp tactics such as skull crack + 100 blades. This breed of gamer will also talk kitten in game and cry all over the forums.

Best thing to do is ignore them.

Drek Thalon.5490:

There is nothing wrong with the warrior, and it is not an over-powered class. Most people in the mists are garbage and don’t queue up with balanced builds. These people are susceptible to scrub-stomp tactics such as skull crack + 100 blades. This breed of gamer will also talk kitten in game and cry all over the forums.

Best thing to do is ignore them.

ok thanks, sometimes its very hard to control my rage thats all

Peow Peow , you’re just a beginner at “being serious” . The funny part is 90% of the people fall into your traps Keep up the good work , and to answer your very serious question , warrior is the hardest class to play . The other people need to l2p.

All serious PvP players know that the Warrior class has the highest skill cap in the game and needs some serious buffs before it’s going to be viable in the current cc-condi-bunker heavy meta. The kids who cry that the class needs to be nerfed have no idea and are just jumping on the bandwagon by not rolling Warriors because they enjoy rolling their faces across the keyboards.

tl;dr: Warriors are UP and need some serious buffs, duh!

Warrior definitely has its’ outliers, but as a whole I think it’s the medium where most people are having fun. I think other classes need to be balanced to be more in line with warrior’s typical performance levels.

Peow peow.2189:

Hi

I just started this game and I am playing a warrior. Whenever I see people in the mists pvp they spam me when i beat them saying im playing an easy class.

Why do they act this way? Is something wrong with the warrior?

Warrior is indeed one of the the easiest classes to play. A lot of the most important tools that a warrior brings to the table are passive like cleansing ire and healing signet. The warrior in itself doesnt allow for a lot of depth mechanics wise even if you wanted to.

But that doenst mean its not fun ….and isnt that what its all about?

Certain people will always hate if they get beaten. No matter what class you play on. So i wouldnt worry too much about the trashtalking.

Can’t comment on PvP but I’ll say this on PvE…

I’ve so far leveled a mesmer, thief and warrior. The first two, I had to be pretty careful with tackling mobs above my current level. The warrior? Yesterday I was running around at level 15 soloing level 22 and level 23 mobs, and even level 20+ veterans. Night and day difference.

Incurafy.6329:

tl;dr: Warriors are UP and need some serious buffs, duh!

a t s e.9614:

… warrior is the hardest class to play . The other people need to l2p.

Made my day XD

Warriors are a class with a massive dmg output, tons of cc, very strong deff + the highest lifepool and only with his skills, faster than every other class.

Warriors have lots of passives (Heal, Condiremove, lots of damags buffs) and low cds, making it easier to spam powerful moves like Whirlwind and Earthshaker. Combined with having the highest hp, armor and mobility (when using GS) in the game, there is generally a lot more time while fighting compared to a class that has to rely on active skills for defending (ele, mesmer, …)

Warrior is not easy when compared to other classes, especially if you play the class to its full potential(cancelling missing hammer attacks/cancelling sword f1) and so forth.

But i would not blame if someone rolls their eyes if the see a warrior with both a rifle and greatsword, two weapons that are impossible to dmg any decent opponent with and as weaponsets do not support one another ;p

Now in PvE warriors are faceroll, since mobs will not dodge your harder to hit abilities

Gathslan.1870:

Warrior is not easy when compared to other classes,

There are some that are just as easy. But quite a few professions like ele or engi are a lot harder to play well.

That does not mean that warrior doesnt have any ways to show skillfull play.

Every class has the ability to counter a build I believe. If you’re playing stunlock, and they aren’t set up to counter you, then they’ll just scream “your overpowered”.

Warrior in PvE is faceroll easy. Warriors in PvP WvW is very easy when fighting noobs but is one to the hardest classes when playing at high skill levels. The better you get the harder it is to compete against players of the same skill level of other classes.

Julie Yann.5379:

Warrior is one of the hardest classes when playing at high skill levels.

The direct opposite of what you said is true. Its one of the easiest classes to pick up and play at any skilllevel.

There are quite a few examples of top tier tpvp players switching from a class they played for months to their rarely played alt warrior. And doing better with that than their main class.

Im not super experienced while playing warrior. But for some reason i manage to do fine in small scale skirmishes/1v1’s vs guys like pösi (pax tournament winner & member of one of the best GvG guilds in eu).

It is easier to be effective with the warrior than with other classes. With some builds you have no need to swap weapons constantly to complete PVE objectives, or to contribute in dungeons. The use of Soldiers or Knights gear allows the average player to do great damage, while maintaining fairly high protection and survivability compared to other classes.

Other classes such as the Engineer are a mess of multiple button presses and swapping kits, firing gadgets…all while trying to move.

Some players like that, others don’t. The popularity of the warrior class suggests most do not.

This does not mean that the Warrior is overpowered. A Ranger can have more survivability than a Warrior by far, and when properly geared and traited it can do comparable damage. However, you would need a fairly specific build, and a very specific and difficult playstyle to accomplish that.

Warrior is easier to play effectively. And I think Arenanet needs to look at the mechanics of the other classes and try to see where they can act either through their User Interface or by other means to make these classes match the Pick up and play style of Warriors.

Locuz.2651:

Julie Yann.5379:

Warrior is one to the hardest classes when playing at high skill levels.

The direct opposite of what you said is true. Its one of the easiest classes to pick up and play at any skilllevel.

There are quite a few examples of top tier tpvp players switching from a class they played for months to their rarely played alt warrior. And doing better with that than their main class.

Im not super experienced while playing warrior. But for some reason i manage to do fine in small scale skirmishes/1v1’s vs guys like pösi (pax tournament winner & member of one of the best GvG guilds in eu).

Well just have to agree to disagree on that one. I know that a well played Mesmer, Thief, Engi, are stronger than a well played warrior.

Julie Yann.5379:

Well just have to agree to disagree on that one. I know that a well played Mesmer, Thief, Engi, are stronger than a well played warrior.

This isnt a discussion about what profession is the strongest. Its about the relative ease to get to the skillfloor & cap. Its a common known fact that its relatively easy to be succesfull as warrior. Even at the top of the ladder.

Or it could be that im absurdly talented since im able to be succesfull on a “super difficult” profession i only played for a few weeks (yup that is probably it).

And saying class X is stronger is quite silly unless you come up with specific situations where they stronger. Are you talking about 1v1’s? WvW roaming? WvW blob play? SPvP teamfights? Spvp far point pushing? etc etc.

Locuz.2651:

Julie Yann.5379:

Well just have to agree to disagree on that one. I know that a well played Mesmer, Thief, Engi, are stronger than a well played warrior.

This isnt a discussion about what profession is the strongest. Its about the relative ease to get to the skillfloor & cap. Its a common known fact that its relatively easy to be succesfull as warrior. Even at the top of the ladder.

Or it could be that im absurdly talented since im able to be succesfull on a “super difficult” profession i only played for a few weeks (yup that is probably it).

And saying class X is stronger is quite silly unless you come up with specific situations where they stronger. Are you talking about 1v1’s? WvW roaming? WvW blob play? SPvP teamfights? Spvp far point pushing? etc etc.

Well there are many different types of difficulties too when playing a class, i did not comment about how hard it is to do well on a warrior but how it is to master it. Warrior is defiantely one of the easier classes to get into and do well with ;P

Warrior is mostly reflex based(although you really need to watch your opponent aswell or see your slow kitten animations miss) while a different class focuses more on using your own buffs and such at right time instead of focusing on watching the opponent.

But i know how this goes, before we became a bit OP most people were saying ‘’warrior hard to play’’ and now that we are too strong ‘’warrior easiest class evar’’ and i see a future where we will be weak for a while again and bask in the cries of how hard warrior is to play xD

And ofcourse how hard a class is depends more on what weaponsets a person decides to use if you ask me :P

Dont believe in everything people say on the matches. When i play my thief or with my mesmer sometimes i get rages like that…. Just ignore them.

Going to assume we’re talking hammer warrior here. This is my WvW perspective.

Ok so, it’s easy to say yeah, I can run a tanky hammer build and be “effective” by spamming earthshaker with 5 other wars and stunlocking my opponent for medium-ish DPS. If that’s how you measure success as a ham war then yes, ham warrior is easy to play.

However, then swap out your gear for full zerker + cav and drop mel runes for hoelbrak and go solo roam looking for 1vX fights and see how well you do without understanding your exact CD’s, understanding the builds of the people you’re facing and knowing when to time your stun locks + burst and dmg mitigation CDs.

Or just go fight a good mesmer or celestial condi engie with your sworld/shield + ham build and see how “easy” the class is.

So, is it easy to play a build that does mediocre dmg and have high survivability…sure. Is it easy to play a warrior that is heavy-weighted in power and is used as an AoE burster in highly outnumbered fights, no it is not. Or in a 1v1 situation with a good bunker mes or engie, no it is not.

“Easy” is all relative on the application of the class/build you are using and the niche role in which you are trying to use it. I’ve always said warrior has a low skill floor in that it’s pretty hard to be rallybait as a warrior, but it does also have a high skill cap when you’re trying to push it to be as effective as other classes in certain situations (1v1, AoE burst, sustained single target dmg). The one area it does easily excel over other classes is hard CC, and that is where most of the QQ is coming from; people don’t like losing control of their character in fights and feeling like they can’t do anything while they sit there and get DPSed down (even though they could have slotted more stunbreaks or used them more efficiently), more than anything else in a game. And that’s one of the main reasons why hammer is getting nerfed.

-dT[AoN]

There’s a reason the warrior is getting nerfed on december 10th.
People are just abusing that hammer build in WvW.

Now, why is the warrior “easy”? Because it can have high damage, high survivability, high mobility and high cc, all at the same time. No other class can do that.

Zanshin.5379:

There’s a reason the warrior is getting nerfed on december 10th.
People are just abusing that hammer build in WvW.

Now, why is the warrior “easy”? Because it can have high damage, high survivability, high mobility and high cc, all at the same time. No other class can do that.

The reason it is getting nerfed is not cause of the WvW hammer build. It is because of the PvP Hambow build. If I had to pick between a warrior and another class in a high rank fight, I would put my money on the other guy cause a well played anything is equal to or better than a well played warrior. I lose to good mesmers, thieves, engis, and even rangers reasonably often.

deathTouch.9706:

However, then swap out your gear for full zerker + cav and drop mel runes for hoelbrak and go solo roam looking for 1vX fights and see how well you do without understanding your exact CD’s, understanding the
builds of the people you’re facing and knowing when to time your stun locks + burst and dmg mitigation CDs.

Why stop there? Just go without traits, gear and with just an axe offhand. That would be a true challenge. And this wisdom can be applied to every single profession in the game.

Problem is that we as warriors dont need to use offensive gear or runes. We can build our character to be tanky, have good CC, have good mobility … while being able to do good damage/burst at the same time.

There is no profession that has all of that wrapped in one package.

Zanshin.5379:

There’s a reason the warrior is getting nerfed on december 10th.

Mostly because complaining about something on a forum is much easier than actually learning the game mechanics and how to counter whatever you are facing.

2-3k earthshakers that your average ham warrior puts out in WvW is pretty ignorable by itself. For anyone specced to hit harder, then it’s a simple matter of countering it with the knowledge that they specced for dmg (primarily reliant on an earthshaker-->backbreaker —> staggering blow --> follow up attacks routine) at the expense of some survivability. If you’re repeatedly getting hit by the most common intiatior, earthshaker, one of the most telegraphed and delayed abilities in the game, it’s time to bind your dodge key to your keyboard or press your blink/blind/evade/invuln/stab/block ability (pick one) and recognize you need to press it when the war stops, brings the hammer behind his head, and awkwardly leaps forward. Unlike many other instant-cast ranged abilities in the game, ES can actually be countered before you’re even hit by it through proper animation recognition and timely skill response. Now it’s on a min 7s CD and they’re stuck with melee weapon in hand vulnerable to kited ranged damage.

The most frustrating thing about this is the nerf is that it is catering to a lower-skillset playerbase that refused to learn the proper counter the the ability, the result of which will open up a gap between war and other classes at higher-level play.

-dT[AoN]

Warrior is a popular class, and pretty strong if you build a warrior right. But it’s not easy, only the skill level of existing players downgraded from those players who were godlike in the old days.

Locuz.2651:

deathTouch.9706:

However, then swap out your gear for full zerker + cav and drop mel runes for hoelbrak and go solo roam looking for 1vX fights and see how well you do without understanding your exact CD’s, understanding the
builds of the people you’re facing and knowing when to time your stun locks + burst and dmg mitigation CDs.

Problem is that we as warriors dont need to use offensive gear or runes. We can build our character to be tanky, have good CC, have good mobility … while being able to do good damage/burst at the same time.

I haven’t lost to a single one of these “tankier” hammer warriors who fail to spec into offensive gear or runes since as far back as I can remember. If I’m sitting with 130% crit dmg and 3,100 base attack w/ increased duration might stacks and 75%+ fury uptime and manage to dodge/block their attacks while they try to facetank mine, they are going to die and they are going to die very quickly. And that’s what happens every single time.

There is no profession that has all of that wrapped in one package.

1) Condi bunker mesmer (add perplex runes for fun)
2) Zerker phantasm mesmer of any decent build w/ PU
3) Condi pistol/shield engie (no burst but high sustained condi dmg)
4) Hybrid-dmg celestial rifle engie w/ runes of noble + grenade spam
5) Any well-played dire-geared condi anything, including but not limited to necros.

And that’s just off the top of my head.

Peow peow.2189:

ok thanks, sometimes its very hard to control my rage thats all

Make your own chat tab for sPvP and turn off emotes and /say chat.

Incurafy.6329:

All serious PvP players know that the Warrior class has the highest skill cap in the game and needs some serious buffs before it’s going to be viable in the current cc-condi-bunker heavy meta. The kids who cry that the class needs to be nerfed have no idea and are just jumping on the bandwagon by not rolling Warriors because they enjoy rolling their faces across the keyboards.

tl;dr: Warriors are UP and need some serious buffs, duh!

yep. completely agree. this is why since warrior became such a high skill cap class every serious pvper of this game has come back! we have never had as much people pvping as we have these day, and it’s all because warrior is such an hard, challenging class to play. best class i have seen in any mmo.

deathTouch.9706:

1) Condi bunker mesmer (add perplex runes for fun)
2) Zerker phantasm mesmer of any decent build w/ PU
3) Condi pistol/shield engie (no burst but high sustained condi dmg)
4) Hybrid-dmg celestial rifle engie w/ runes of noble + grenade spam
5) Any well-played dire-geared condi anything, including but not limited to necros.

And that’s just off the top of my head.

None of these classes have everything. So what youre saying is:

- Necromancers have the same mobility as warriors?
- A rifle engi who tries to achieve similar burst as a warrior is just as durable (able to take care of condis, able to facetank dmg) and mobile as warrior? Please link me a build that can do that.
- A bunker mesmer typically has around 2700 armor and 15k hp. One backstab in wvw regularly crits for about 11-12k on armor levels like that. Are you telling me you would get globaled like that when using a defensive build + runes as warrior?
- A condi engineer is more about outlasting than frontload dmg (unless you take the broken perlexity runes in to consideration). And to do good dmg they need a good number of might stacks. Without it the damage is quite weak imo.

And youre mentioning a lot of condi specs. While most warriors run with melandru runes, dogged march and – condi duration food. Which is more – condi duration than any condi class can make up for with traits and food.

Easy class is Ranger, that only with Long Bow and Spirits can do everything :/

Warriors in PvE tend to be much more straightforward and much easier to be successful with. Encounters where you have no issue at all with a Warrior will be strangely dangerous on something like an Elementalist if you reroll, or even a Thief. In PvP, Warriors have access to much more straight-forward mechanics that allow you to play much more aggressively without as much thought to the consequences. Things like traits that trigger Balanced Stance automatically, Balanced Stance itself, Endure Pain, Berserker’s Stance, etc. You have access to gobs of Stability, and when you go to a class that doesn’t have nearly as much access to Stability, it’s truly jarring.

That isn’t to say you can be completely oblivious to the game as a Warrior. You still need to know what other classes can do and how you can deal with it. Your answers are just… obvious, for lack of a better word.

However, playing a Warrior feels really good. It feels like a solid class (unless you’re working with top-tier sPvP competitive groups, maybe. I don’t even know what that meta looks like), and you have a lot of fun options that are easy to understand and bring success.

That also isn’t to say that other classes don’t have their “faceroll” tactics. I’ve actually been playing my Necro again and probably enjoying it more than my Warrior, if only because it’s more engaging and more risky. If you ever play a Necro, try the run-of-the-mill Terror/Dhuumfire build and condi spam. You’ll be amazed at what you can do standing in the back. You’ll also be amazed at how easily you can be trained down suddenly without Stability (and even with Stun Breakers if you use them even the least bit wrong).

At the end of the day, don’t worry about what other people say. Do you enjoy Warrior? Then play it. It’s a fun class, and I’ll be keeping mine in my pocket for sure when I want a different experience than my Necro. The thing you will potentially realize is that a lot of people are going to complain about your use of <Insert Weapon X> (namely Hammer), and then you’ll fight someone who you suddenly can’t land Earthshaker on. People don’t give this game as much credit from a skill perspective as it deserves, so they’ll blame your class instead of themselves. As someone else said, just shake it off and have fun.

Warrior can be pretty easy to combo, but so can other FotM class builds.

>Everyone just taking this guy’s thread seriously despite having made multiple posts about how OP he thinks Warrior is

Legitimate claims or not his attitude certainly doesn’t warrant taking any real effort replying him.

Locuz.2651:

- A bunker mesmer typically has around 2700 armor and 15k hp. One backstab in wvw regularly crits for about 11-12k on armor levels like that. Are you telling me you would get globaled like that when using a defensive build + runes as warrior?

With 122% crit damage and a weapon damage of 1030, a Thief would need ~3600 Power to hit you for 11,000 damage on crit. And that’s assuming that you’re already <50% hp to trigger Executioner and have at least one condition on you to trigger Exposed Weakness.

If you were to get an average damage roll and have 50%+ HP, then the Thief would somehow need ~4,400 Power to hit you for 11,000.

Please stop pulling numbers out of your kitten .

And youre mentioning a lot of condi specs. While most warriors run with melandru runes, dogged march and – condi duration food. Which is more – condi duration than any condi class can make up for with traits and food.

Rare Veggie Pizza is a direct point-per-point counter for the -condi duration food.

Also, in case you missed it, there are +condition duration% runes. In fact, it’s possible to get any one of the following from runes:

• +45% bleed duration
• +45% burning duration
• +40% poison duration
• +30% torment duration
• +45% confusion duration
• +20% fear duration

And in case you fail at math (most likely), those are all (except Fear) high enough to fully counter Rune of Melandru.

Oh and of course, you can still get condi duration% from the passive trait bonus and several classes (ele, warrior, necro, thief, engi) have traits that increase the duration of a specific condition.

Olba.5376:

Locuz.2651:

- A bunker mesmer typically has around 2700 armor and 15k hp. One backstab in wvw regularly crits for about 11-12k on armor levels like that. Are you telling me you would get globaled like that when using a defensive build + runes as warrior?

With 122% crit damage and a weapon damage of 1030, a Thief would need ~3600 Power to hit you for 11,000 damage on crit. And that’s assuming that you’re already <50% hp to trigger Executioner and have at least one condition on you to trigger Exposed Weakness.

If you were to get an average damage roll and have 50%+ HP, then the Thief would somehow need ~4,400 Power to hit you for 11,000.

Please stop pulling numbers out of your kitten .

Such a nice story man.

I guess i dreamt this and in some way my dream materialized on the screenshot:

http://i.imgur.com/CPV14oh.png

Peow peow.2189:

Hi

I just started this game and I am playing a warrior. Whenever I see people in the mists pvp they spam me when i beat them saying im playing an easy class.

Why do they act this way? Is something wrong with the warrior?

No dont worry. Im one of the best fighter warriors on the battlefield but that doesnt come easily. Its not such such a noob class as thieves you have to sharpen your skills and your wisdom in order to succeed.
Ive had to chain up to three attacks to kill some tankier targets, it really gets tough sometimes but its important not to lose hope!
It can be pretty hard to evaluate the situation right, say you get engaged by a thief you have to choose what skills to 3-hit him with. Sometimes you also have to stunlock your enemy to death and wait for them to die of old age.

Also you might consider buying one of those rubber keyboards: http://www.sizlopedia.com/wp-content/uploads/usb-rubber-keyboard.jpg

The plastic buttons of regular keyboards can hurt your face after a while

Locuz.2651:

Olba.5376:

Locuz.2651:

- A bunker mesmer typically has around 2700 armor and 15k hp. One backstab in wvw regularly crits for about 11-12k on armor levels like that. Are you telling me you would get globaled like that when using a defensive build + runes as warrior?

With 122% crit damage and a weapon damage of 1030, a Thief would need ~3600 Power to hit you for 11,000 damage on crit. And that’s assuming that you’re already <50% hp to trigger Executioner and have at least one condition on you to trigger Exposed Weakness.

If you were to get an average damage roll and have 50%+ HP, then the Thief would somehow need ~4,400 Power to hit you for 11,000.

Please stop pulling numbers out of your kitten .

Such a nice story man.

I guess i dreamt this and in some way my dream materialized on the screenshot:

http://i.imgur.com/CPV14oh.png

Guess you must be getting hit for 13,000 by Eviscerate and something like 25,000 by 100 Blades…

Point being: If you’re getting hit by that much, you’re against an extreme glass cannon Thief. I would know, my Warrior runs around with about the same amount of armor and my experience is that 10k+ backstabs are quite rare. But who knows, maybe being Warrior means I automatically take like 30% less damage than every other class, because WE ARE SO kittenING AWESOME!

Olba.5376:

Guess you must be getting hit for 13,000 by Eviscerate and something like 25,000 by 100 Blades…

So youre telling me the screenshot is fake?

Olba.5376:

Point being: If you’re getting hit by that much, you’re against an extreme glass cannon Thief.

Isnt almost every thief glass canon in wvw?

People, as a whole, a whiny little cry-babies who take every opportunity to belittle everyone else. Especially in games like this. I recommend ignore / block .

Locuz.2651:

Olba.5376:

Guess you must be getting hit for 13,000 by Eviscerate and something like 25,000 by 100 Blades…

So youre telling me the screenshot is fake?

No, I am just implying that those are numbers you should be seeing from those attacks, considering their coefficients.

Unless of course… it’s not a common thing. As I already said, my personal experience is that most backstabs aren’t in the 10k+ range. That’s why I moved from full soldiers to 50% berserker 50% knight on my Warrior.

Isnt almost every thief glass canon in wvw?

Probably not, actually. Thieves are already fairly useless, so dying quick is even worse. Not to mention that people like Yishis are a big influence for most WvW thieves and he runs Cavalier trinkets. There was even discussion that you could improve on damage from Cavalier trinkets by carefully picking Soldier instead.

I think it’s funny when people say that a stun/hammer warrior is easy to use. My engineer completely WRECKS these tanky stun healing signet warriors. People just need to learn to play against them. Keep them poisoned and AVOID THEIR OBVIOUS big telegraphed hits and they are dead.

Also, this thief hit my 1900 toughness warrior with two hits and killed me instantly. I had full health, was just standing out by a keep and had no conditions or anything on me. I was standing there and was hit by something invisible that instantly killed me.

P.S. I dislike using hammer and was using it in the screenshot below because I was experimenting with builds. My normal build doesn’t use a hammer or GS.

Locuz.2651:

deathTouch.9706:

1) Condi bunker mesmer (add perplex runes for fun)
2) Zerker phantasm mesmer of any decent build w/ PU
3) Condi pistol/shield engie (no burst but high sustained condi dmg)
4) Hybrid-dmg celestial rifle engie w/ runes of noble + grenade spam
5) Any well-played dire-geared condi anything, including but not limited to necros.

And that’s just off the top of my head.

None of these classes have everything. So what youre saying is:

- Necromancers have the same mobility as warriors?
- A rifle engi who tries to achieve similar burst as a warrior is just as durable (able to take care of condis, able to facetank dmg) and mobile as warrior? Please link me a build that can do that.
- A bunker mesmer typically has around 2700 armor and 15k hp. One backstab in wvw regularly crits for about 11-12k on armor levels like that. Are you telling me you would get globaled like that when using a defensive build + runes as warrior?
- A condi engineer is more about outlasting than frontload dmg (unless you take the broken perlexity runes in to consideration). And to do good dmg they need a good number of might stacks. Without it the damage is quite weak imo.

And youre mentioning a lot of condi specs. While most warriors run with melandru runes, dogged march and – condi duration food. Which is more – condi duration than any condi class can make up for with traits and food.

He is saying that anyone of those builds can easily dispose of those so called OP Hammer warriors when played right.

Julie Yann.5379:

He is saying that anyone of those builds can easily dispose of those so called OP Hammer warriors when played right.

I didnt even say they / we (since i play one aswell) where OP as a whole. What i did say was that the damage while being tanky is quite crazy. And that no profession has that combination of being good at so many things at the same time.

Having played a warrior, ranger, nerco, thief, and elementalist to 80. Warrior is probably the easiest. It has a nice combination of mobility, heals, armor and damage. With food, dogged march, and ire, the warrior has great defense against cc and conditions. Does it make it the best class? No. I know for a fact my necro could wtf own a warrior. I also know a few mezmers that could kill me. However, since I know that I don’t let them catch me. That is what is nice about a warrior, it isn’t the best class but it can escape from the ones that are. Works great in wvw. In spvp, not so much since you can’t have food. The same build I use in wvw gets owned in spvp. I do think the healing signet is a little high now or most other classes need a bump in their single heal. Necro’s is kinda crappy.

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Peow peow.2189:

Hi

I just started this game and I am playing a warrior. Whenever I see people in the mists pvp they spam me when i beat them saying im playing an easy class.

Why do they act this way? Is something wrong with the warrior?

No dont worry. Im one of the best fighter warriors on the battlefield but that doesnt come easily. Its not such such a noob class as thieves you have to sharpen your skills and your wisdom in order to succeed.
Ive had to chain up to three attacks to kill some tankier targets, it really gets tough sometimes but its important not to lose hope!
It can be pretty hard to evaluate the situation right, say you get engaged by a thief you have to choose what skills to 3-hit him with. Sometimes you also have to stunlock your enemy to death and wait for them to die of old age.

Also you might consider buying one of those rubber keyboards: http://www.sizlopedia.com/wp-content/uploads/usb-rubber-keyboard.jpg

The plastic buttons of regular keyboards can hurt your face after a while

such wise words. it’s really good to see how, we, warrior players can give such wise advices.

Simple answer is that every class has cheese builds and warrior tends to have the cheesiest of them all. Is every warrior build easy to play? Not really. However, the buffs have pretty much put most warrior builds in the Kraft cheese category (the cheesiest).

Before you feel like you should quit your warrior or try a harder class consider this.
There was a point where warrior was bottom of the barrel and winning anything was skill and luck. DD ele used to be top dog and now is bottom of the barrel. Necro used to be a joke and now they are plague. Engineer has been nerfed so many times it is stupid but in the right hands is still considered worth posting a QQ thread over. What is my point? Whatever class you invest in make sure you love the core mechanics. Balancing is a living thing and truth be told there will be times where your class is King and times where it is the pauper. Invest in a class you feel you could play no matter the environment.

If you love your warrior and the way it plays then ignore the pm, block the person who sent it, (sore losers are to be ignored) and do what makes you happy. It is your time and your dollar. So, use it as you like and try to have fun.

Yes. Simply use Knight’s to reach 3K armor, and Healing Signet passive regen.