Guild Wars 2

Hi everyone!
I had a nice berserker build set up until the 6/25 patch. Then the patch came and I couldn’t find a good build. I lost my 100% crit and all my damage. So now I’m appealing to you all, which is the best fit full zerk build for a dungeon and pve runner. I’ve heard 30/25/00/15 is best for solo because of the might stacking and 30/00/10/30 is the best for dungeons because of the damage bonus for extra boons. What build can i run to get a bit of both? I am always in between so I want a build that hits high in both dungeons and running solo, preferably with a high crit chance. Would 30/10/00/30 work? Thank you! Also, if it helps, I’m a gs warrior who likes to see high numbers with hundred blades xD

Hello. The best build avaiable at the moment is the 30/25/0/0/15 for solo or the 30/0/0/10/30 in dungeon-party/premade as you said.
A pure gs build it’s difficult to make. If you want the max dps with high crit, take the second build; if you want a “balanced” version… you can use the first build or modify it in 20(30)/20/0/0/30(20) for example. I think the better version is 30/0/0/10/30 for solo and party because you can do the max dps with high crit. Remeber to use discipline banner to increase the crit chance

Depends both of those have good points and both works fine either way, it comes down to what you think and what the group you play with thinks.

I prefer 30/25, although in optimal settings 30/10 might be better I personally havent yet run in a PVE group that consistently allow 30/10 to shine. That said its a bit selfish, Empowered trait is really nice for the group itself.

Also altough farming is mindless it all comes down to speed and 30/25 def. does more dmg when running solo.

edit: Its not so much the Destruction of the Empowered trait that makes 30/10 good, you basically have the same crit chance as 30/25 but you get 30% crit dmg in addition and the Empowered trait. The rest of the traits are equal to anything in the 30/25 tree, compare this to losing the might stacking in 30/25 and choose

aeneq.1760:

Depends both of those have good points and both works fine either way, it comes down to what you think and what the group you play with thinks.

I prefer 30/25, although in optimal settings 30/10 might be better I personally havent yet run in a PVE group that consistently allow 30/10 to shine. That said its a bit selfish, Empowered trait is really nice for the group itself.

Also altough farming is mindless it all comes down to speed and 30/25 def. does more dmg when running solo.

Thanks for the input! When you mean 30/10 do you mean a 30/10/00/30 or a 30/00/10/30?

Its always 30/0/0/10/30, 30/10 is just used as shorthand.

Ok, thank you! So that means basically 30/10/00/30 is out of the ballgame? I feel like that near 100% critical chance is pretty nice too.

Dont think there has been a viable 30/10/0/0/30 build, nothing in Arms 10 and under beats Empower Allies (which applies to you as well) it almost like 4 persistent mights (except no cond increase).

I personally think 30/25/0/0/15 is better for solo and grouping, just because of the Might you get from Greatsword

I prefer it also but if you look at the data, GS crit= 5 seconds of might which means that in a 30/25 you would end up with maybe around 5 stacks unless you are in AOE situations (which usually dont matter that much), if you stack might duration runes and food you can get around 80 which if you are lucky equals about 10 stacks.

Then ofcourse in a fight with mobility youll start losing some of those mights due to lack of crits.

Since 5 stacks is just a little more than the Empower Allies trait (which is active all the time) and you also get the 30% crit dmg you can start seeing that 30/10 is probably a better choice.

Also if you are in specific situation you can quickly retrait for Sweet Revenge, Mobile Strikes, Stronger Bowstrings, Inspiring Banners, Empowered whereas there is little options in Arms.

The math in this thread is solid. You should give it a read.

Here is a build that merges really high crit chance with the might stacking GS. http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-s;4NKkN0P4RL-60;9;4TO;0E-8A09;55;04-F05;9n-FW0-LWZ;1Vp-wWz12Z8_E52308-2H;1N1-a;9;9;9;7kkkkkk;57q

When you factor in the 4% crit from Healing Signet and Signet of Fury (the site doesn’t) and the Banner of Discipline is down, you’ll be right around 100% crit chance.

Yeah well theres a lot of stuff in that build I dont like

• Its actually 88% WITH Fury which isnt 100% uptime
• Its also with ascended gear
• Crit sigils
• Banners are kitten on a 120cd so +precision is actually around 40 with +2.5% crit dmg
• You usually only have 2 sigils on non cd so thats 80 prec but lets say 100 which is around 5%
• The thread you linked didnt discuss 30/0/0/10/30 which should provide better benefits than the 5% crit chance you can get from the 30/10/0/0/30

That said you can compensate precision with some food buffs but that linked build in itself should be taken with some perspective. Whereas 30/0/0/10/30 is static buffs that are active the whole time and is not conflicting with other might buffs in grouping and provides some versatility for retraiting when needed.

aeneq.1760:

Yeah well theres a lot of stuff in that build I dont like

• Its actually 88% WITH Fury which isnt 100% uptime
• Its also with ascended gear
• Crit sigils
• Banners are kitten on a 120cd so +precision is actually around 40 with +2.5% crit dmg
• You usually only have 2 sigils on non cd so thats 80 prec but lets say 100 which is around 5%
• The thread you linked didnt discuss 30/0/0/10/30 which should provide better benefits than the 5% crit chance you can get from the 30/10/0/0/30

That said you can compensate precision with some food buffs but that linked build in itself should be taken with some perspective. Whereas 30/0/0/10/30 is static buffs that are active the whole time and is not conflicting with other might buffs in grouping and provides some versatility for retraiting when needed.

As far as fury, you’re right it isn’t 100% uptime, but FGJ and SoR together are going to give you 38 sec. FGJ will be back off CD before fury runs out which will almost bridge the gap to SoR CD. You’ll end up with 46 sec uptime out of 48 on a fresh rotation.

I agree that the 30/10 build will provide more group dps, but from the math done, outside of a team setting, if it even edges out the 30/25 it won’t be by much (because of Attack of Opportunity, not because of might stacking). If you are going to run Empowered or Empower Allies, the math is really easy to figure out.

It’s a splice between two builds so it’s far from perfect and not something I would run, but the OP asked about a Might stacking crit build. I think you might be dogging it pretty hard. All personal preference I suppose.

Actually the OP just mentioned a might stacking build, in which case 30/25 is the way to go. However he was also asking about 30/10 which isnt a stacking build.

I hadnt actually tried 30/0/0/10/30 before I wrote the earlier posts, I was using a 30/25 and was just about to do some gearing around that and I agree the might stacks are nice when they hit for sure!

I however decided to try the 30/0/0/10/30 today and I am getting 4.1k atk with 86% crit (thats without banner of discipline and instead using Strength with a crit dmg of 91%)

I also am running 2xRuby orbs, 2xMonk, 2xWater and with 10% in traits and 20% from food buff I keep fury, might and swiftness exactly 100% uptime (well 1sec glitch due to animation). This made it possible to free up FGJ and replace it with whatever I desire (since fury is 100% anyway).

So with this change I def. feel I got more consistent dps, and two really good group bonuses with some sweet retraits if I desire. I might not get 25 stack on mobs solo (which only happened with multiple mobs, 14 stacks are more consistent) and instead get 5 stacks but gained Strength banner which equals ~4.8 (with 26 sec downtime so lets say 4 stacks).

Im actually quite happy with it, im gonna run it a while and see how it works out for me. Just need to get me some Monk runes for the toughness gear.

aeneq.1760:

Actually the OP just mentioned a might stacking build, in which case 30/25 is the way to go. However he was also asking about 30/10 which isnt a stacking build.

I hadnt actually tried 30/0/0/10/30 before I wrote the earlier posts, I was using a 30/25 and was just about to do some gearing around that and I agree the might stacks are nice when they hit for sure!

I however decided to try the 30/0/0/10/30 today and I am getting 4.1k atk with 86% crit (thats without banner of discipline and instead using Strength with a crit dmg of 91%)

I also am running 2xRuby orbs, 2xMonk, 2xWater and with 10% in traits and 20% from food buff I keep fury, might and swiftness exactly 100% uptime (well 1sec glitch due to animation). This made it possible to free up FGJ and replace it with whatever I desire (since fury is 100% anyway).

So with this change I def. feel I got more consistent dps, and two really good group bonuses with some sweet retraits if I desire. I might not get 25 stack on mobs solo (which only happened with multiple mobs, 14 stacks are more consistent) and instead get 5 stacks but gained Strength banner which equals ~4.8 (with 26 sec downtime so lets say 4 stacks).

Im actually quite happy with it, im gonna run it a while and see how it works out for me. Just need to get me some Monk runes for the toughness gear.

Sounds like a sweet setup. I’ve been toying with dropping 4 orbs to gain the dps stability of better boon duration. Glad to hear it works in application as well as theory.