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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

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And here we go. Torch Confirmed for the Berserker. What are your thoughts?!

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Posted by: Lyger.5429

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Definitely seems to be an animal theme!

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Posted by: Kraljevo.2801

Kraljevo.2801

I hope that burning stays as is, so I can give those cele ele plebs a taste of their own medicine. :P

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Posted by: Atlas.4509

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More interesting to me than a dagger for sure, can’t wait to see what kind of utility skills they get.

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Posted by: Donari.5237

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Here’s the image for people who haven’t seen it yet:

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Posted by: BurrTheKing.8571

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I’m not really sure what they’re going to do with the weapon that will be interesting. Getting a smoke field would be really fun for Sword synergy and Powerful Synergy if we got a baseline Fast Hands. If we just get a “set them on fire” skill though it’s going to be disappointing.

The animal imagery is interesting. But if we get pets we better get some major AI fixes.

Edit: since we’re only getting an offhand the weapon skills are supposed to be really impactful getting a giant smoke field so you could pull a anime-style “where is he-gaaaaah!” As you land Final Thrust would be cool. A Warrior offhand needs utility and that would be fairly fun and useful.

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Posted by: Rednik.3809

Rednik.3809

Oh torch! This is surely more useful than… emm… no, bare hands are useful too… well, right, this is PIECE OF CRAP.

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Posted by: Hexalot.8194

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Oh torch! This is surely more useful than… emm… no, bare hands are useful too… well, right, this is PIECE OF CRAP.

What… you’d prefer a dagger or pistol in your off-hand ?

LOL

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Posted by: Kraljevo.2801

Kraljevo.2801

I’m curious about the utility type. Survival? Sprit? Consecration?

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Posted by: samo.1054

samo.1054

Torch for war is the first weapon I thought of when thinking of warrior spec. weapon. I think it’s a good choice, but of course now it’s down to anet to actually make something meaningful from it and give it some nice skills…

I’m just happy it’s not a pistol anyway.

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Posted by: apharma.3741

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On the bright side it means you’re probably going to get an enhanced class mechanic which certainly could play into warrior hands very well depending on what it is.

Remember, people weren’t exactly happy at war horn for temp…oh bad example. Shield for mesmer was ok but the new class mechanic was top notch =D

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Posted by: Rednik.3809

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What… you’d prefer a dagger or pistol in your off-hand ?

LOL

Yes. I will gladly take duelist warrior over pathetic wannabe-guardian.

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Posted by: Hexalot.8194

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What… you’d prefer a dagger or pistol in your off-hand ?

LOL

Yes. I will gladly take duelist warrior over pathetic wannabe-guardian.

Duelist warrior ?

Sounds more like wannabe thief…

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Posted by: Rednik.3809

Rednik.3809

Duelist warrior ?

Sounds more like wannabe thief…

Still much better than “haha I can wave burning stick”.

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

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I super hope it gets a Smoke Field… Sword + Torch Condi would be super super fun at that rate, especially a Celestial build.

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Posted by: Copestetic.5174

Copestetic.5174

Hyped for a stupid torch? I have none. It’s dumb considering there’s still daggers, staves, pistols, and even shortbow. All this will do is give Warriors a little more access to burning most likely which, is the last thing we need in this game.

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Posted by: Linfang.1087

Linfang.1087

I want the ability to stick my primary weapon into the torch and start it on fire so it does burning damage.

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Posted by: BurrTheKing.8571

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Well…if nothing else the Torch will look good with my Fiery Dragon Sword. I got the fire armor as well.

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

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Hyped for a stupid torch? I have none. It’s dumb considering there’s still daggers, staves, pistols, and even shortbow. All this will do is give Warriors a little more access to burning most likely which, is the last thing we need in this game.

Sure, if you’re uncreative. So far, they seem to have been pretty careful of making new weapons “far too obvious”. I’m personally hoping for a spin that creates a smoke field ring. Not too likely to happen, but that’d be fantastic for Sword leap. I have a sneaking suspicion there was future intent with the double-leap trait beyond just fire auras… Not that I’d use it now, of course, still a bit lack-luster, but it may provide hints.

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Posted by: Valik Shin.9027

Valik Shin.9027

Things I rather get than a new weapon

-3rd weapon set
-f2 skill
-fast hands baseline

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Posted by: origin.1496

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3 animal heads on the torch.
Remember before GW2 launched, Rangers originally had a concept for an elite that you could summon 3 of your animal companions into the open?

Warrior getting ranger pets confirmed.

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

ronpierce.2760

Things I rather get than a new weapon

-3rd weapon set
-f2 skill
-fast hands baseline

1. Would never Happen, not sure how you could suggest this and expect it to ever be balanced.
2. Seems likely already in addition to the torch, so not sure what the problem is there. Every elite has had an additional perk to the class mechanic.
3. Again, yeah diversity stuff, but you’d probably still find yourself going into Discipline anyways a good majority of the time, Fast Hands isnt the only goodie there, and you’d have to accept that other trees would have to be nerfed to compensate for this type of class-wide buff. Not sure people would all be so happy with the changes for the sake of pvp diversity, but maybe.

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Posted by: sebradle.7034

sebradle.7034

Why a Lion, Wolf, and Bear torch. Missed the opportunity to make a Lion, Tiger, and Bear torch.

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Posted by: Elegie.3620

Elegie.3620

The torch seems consistent with a condition/hybrid warrior. I suppose you could get a bonfire (AoE Burn + fire field) and some torch throwing (inflicting Burn or Blind). Smoke field would be great, but is improbable, because it would give the warrior a way to stealth.

The Torch could be used in many interesting setups, although from a condition point of view, I’d like another main-hand weapon inflicting damaging conditions, to expand build options.

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Posted by: skowcia.8257

skowcia.8257

I wonder what they got in store for wars give up on either defense, discipline or str lines as everyone and their mom runs gs nowdays.

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Posted by: Lazze.9870

Lazze.9870

The torch seems consistent with a condition/hybrid warrior. I suppose you could get a bonfire (AoE Burn + fire field) and some torch throwing (inflicting Burn or Blind).

Sure, some elite specs are stepping on other professions toes to a certain extent, but this is literally a copy of the ranger torch.

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Posted by: GruntSquad.1530

GruntSquad.1530

Berserker appearently may translates to “bare skin” or, more likely, “bear skin”. To get the story short, berserkers essentially were champions, who wore bear skins to display their status, and are not the shirtless, rage induced barbarian wielding two-handed axes. I guess ArenaNet is going for the more heraldic champion approach. So thats why there are the animal heads. A Bear for the name, berserker, a wolf head, i guess symbolizing balthazar, the human god of war and his two hounds tegon and t-something. And a lion head… hmm, i guess lion’s arch?

There is a video from a youtuber, Lindybeige.
In one of his videos he talks about ‘berserkers’ and how the name came to be.
No worries, he’s pretty nerdy himself, but also is educated in history and stuff.

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Posted by: online.1278

online.1278

I need scepter over torch. Just think, currently we warrior has no 1-handed ranged weapon.

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Posted by: Orcinus Orca.8627

Orcinus Orca.8627

I was hoping for a focus but the torch looks interesting, too.

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Posted by: TheDuck.4526

TheDuck.4526

Please no pets

I moved from Guard to Warrior because they got traps (2nd most boring thing about the most boring class— Rangers) So I’ll be ultra sad if we get the 1st most boring thing about the most boring class— pets. All my opinion, of course— but I’ll wait to see what we get.

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Posted by: Yukiatsuruko.3784

Yukiatsuruko.3784

The torch skills and berserker specialization better be ridiculous if it’s going to compete with PS/EA Warrior.

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Posted by: tboneking.2531

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I’ll be interested to see if they give us a smoke and/or light field. A growing fire field that applies burning would be cool but kind of eclipsed by lb.

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Posted by: Doggie.3184

Doggie.3184

You guiz are lucky.

but RIP Dual Focus fist weapons, but it was too epic of an idea to actually happen though.

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Posted by: Linfang.1087

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That helm though, dangerous around low hanging power lines in Rata Sum

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Posted by: Phoenix.5047

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I can’t be the only one thinking this, warrior sets self on fire, gains Xbuffs and pulses out burning. You know, Berserker stuff.
That and pocket ash.

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Posted by: Elegie.3620

Elegie.3620

The torch seems consistent with a condition/hybrid warrior. I suppose you could get a bonfire (AoE Burn + fire field) and some torch throwing (inflicting Burn or Blind).

Sure, some elite specs are stepping on other professions toes to a certain extent, but this is literally a copy of the ranger torch.

I guess. I believe we’ll get a bonfire though, because a single fire field isn’t really enough to take advantage of the GM trait Powerful Synergy. The Throw Torch could be anything, even a simple melee hit, which would either blind or burn.

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Posted by: darkaheart.4265

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i can already tell this wont make a difference unless if it favours condi and if its dual handed, other than that just think about the skills.

it will definitely not replace GS so itll be
gs/torch + torch?
gs/ s + t?
lb/ s + t?
lb/ t + t?
lb/ t + s?

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Posted by: Copestetic.5174

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Sword/Torch and Longbow builds are about all I can come up with too, darkaheart. Of course you lose team support without Warhorn, and I’m not sure I’m ready to give that up. Shoutbow’s too good right now with all the condi flying around.

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Posted by: SpellOfIniquity.1780

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Maybe a skill that lets us set our weapon on fire?

/shrug

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Posted by: Waar Kijk Je Naar.8713

Waar Kijk Je Naar.8713

Like shield, no chance of this ever getting used unless they add a 3rd weaponslot or rework literally all warrior traits.

IT’S A SWORD. THEY’RE NOT MEANT TO BE SAFE.

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Posted by: Amineo.8951

Amineo.8951

Inb4 Stealth Warrior and the forum explodes.

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Posted by: Texas.9547

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I think torch fits the warrior perfectly, and from the sound of it, the elite spec will be good. This game needs something to kill the pirate ship meta in wvw and bring back the melee trains and this may be the spec to do it.

Also, I cant remember where I read it, but I believe warrior is going to get a break bar as part of its mechanic. Anyway, I have big hopes for WVW.

Im deffinitly not worried about PvE since warrior already stacks on bosses in dungeons does that just fine and does so with a couple of different builds. And they do fine in open world too.

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Posted by: Knighthonor.4061

Knighthonor.4061

Stealth + 100Blades == Massive QQ

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Posted by: Azure.8670

Azure.8670

Torch has really good skins and can cause some good gameplay. Warriors should be happy about this

Axe torch will look sweet together

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Posted by: Ilias.8647

Ilias.8647

Torch… a raider!!!

Could be used to burn and/or blind. I would say dual wielding torches would be somewhat ridiculous (reminds me of a juggler)…

No matter what, I hope with this elite spec the overall use of dual wielding 1h weapons could be promoted someway.

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Posted by: BrotherBelial.3094

BrotherBelial.3094

I really can’t see this being “cool”. So far every elite spec has be underwhelming for me personally. ANet are not selling HoT to me at all. The Rev looks good, but the Rev alone is not going to make me buy it before launch.

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Posted by: Omega Zoa.3859

Omega Zoa.3859

lol “hype” i was looking forward to “berserker” but now..eh..if this specialization revolves around condi dmg i am done with warrior and moving to rev.

Kinda unfair considering some other classes seem like a direct upgrade..looking at you mesmer and necros… and warrior..ehh…but i am guessing too early..POI shall decide the fate of my warrior.

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Posted by: Ilias.8647

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If you think of it, with elite specs A.Net seems to add an aspect that is missing from some professions.

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Posted by: tobascodagama.2961

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On the bright side it means you’re probably going to get an enhanced class mechanic which certainly could play into warrior hands very well depending on what it is.

Yeah, it’ll be interesting to see what it turns out to be. Curious where ANet can go in tinkering with Adrenaline/Burst skills. Hopefully, it’s not a dud like Tempest Overloads. I’d expect a new F-skill at the very least.

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Posted by: Michelangelo.1742

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lol “hype” i was looking forward to “berserker” but now..eh..if this specialization revolves around condi dmg i am done with warrior and moving to rev.

Kinda unfair considering some other classes seem like a direct upgrade..looking at you mesmer and necros… and warrior..ehh…but i am guessing too early..POI shall decide the fate of my warrior.

I would hold off on calling them a direct upgrade. Reaper is quite slow, so it is actually a less powerful option compared with the rest of the profession atm (will have to see how the changes move the Reaper around). Dragonhunter and Tempest as well are just new playstyles. I heard the Chronomancer was a little too strong, so I expect them to dial that back. As a lot of people say, they are not supposed to be direct upgrades, ArenaNet knows that (hopefull) because that will upset the balance of the game and limit build diversity.

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