Guild Wars 2

So I just fought a warrior multiple times and I couldn’t even come close to killing him, he’d charge me, I couldn’t move, then he’d swing his weapon rapidly and my health dropped to 0 in roughly a second. WTF just happened? I remember thief having a similar thing, but it got nerfed to the ground quickly…

Not sure if you’re serious but it sounds like Bull’s Charge followed by Greatsword’s Hundred Blades, possibly with Frenzy popped on it – after which the Warrior would be pretty vulnerable if they used Frenzy.

I’m no PvP expert, but if you’re squishy you probably should have some condition removal to break the root and then the HB is relatively easy to avoid.

I’m not exactly squishy, specced towards healing and toughness, still I dropped faster than I could react.

learn from your mistakes, equip cond remover….etc etc

aleiro, I’ll try that, it just really caught me off guard when such a heavily armored player dealt such extreme burst

It’s just weird you had not run into it, HB warriors are so common. That skill that makes you swing and swing roots the warrior in place, so if you break stun and evade, you rarely take full damage. The other option is that you were rooted, in which case condition removals will help. Warriors in that build rarely have stability so you can interrupt after breaking the stun, or if you are rooted.

aleiro.8521:

It’s just weird you had not run into it, HB warriors are so common. That skill that makes you swing and swing roots the warrior in place, so if you break stun and evade, you rarely take full damage. The other option is that you were rooted, in which case condition removals will help. Warriors in that build rarely have stability so you can interrupt after breaking the stun, or if you are rooted.

I only have one stunbreaker and it was on cooldown whenever the warrior showed up, unlucky sure, but it’s pretty upsetting that if my stunbreaker in on CD there’s nothing I can do…

I’m finding that the charge+Hb rarely works on anyone nowadays. It seems everyone is geared for that particular combo.

They either have some automatic escape, stability up or stun break+immunity or instant stealth or something or other.

I rarely expect to kill anyone with it nowadays. It’s more of a finisher when they’ve been whittled down to 1/3 life or less.

To take a person from full to zero in one go involves two conditions. 1) The warrior has to be glass cannon, so running 18k-20k hps, no defense + signet of rage/fury must be up and 2) The person who you’re attacking has also gone glass cannon spec + their stun break is down.

So it’s a who attacks who first scenario.

Jjiinx.8795:

I only have one stunbreaker and it was on cooldown whenever the warrior showed up, unlucky sure, but it’s pretty upsetting that if my stunbreaker in on CD there’s nothing I can do…

Make a Warrior, go to the Mists, equip Bull’s Charge. Use it and remember how the animation looks like. The next time you fight against a Warrior dodge when you see that animation, without that knockdown such Warriors are a lot less frightening.

I don’t remember which skill it was, but my elementalist got hit for 14k damage in one hit by a warrior too, and I had actually toughness gear stacked to avoid getting 2-shotted.. didn’t work out :-p

Antiriad.7160:

I don’t remember which skill it was, but my elementalist got hit for 14k damage in one hit by a warrior too, and I had actually toughness gear stacked to avoid getting 2-shotted.. didn’t work out :-p

Its not one hit it’s 8 hits…

I think the 1 hit one was eviscerate or somefing

if u got hit for 14k in spvp yesterday with eviscerate I would like a screenie please, they nerfed eviscerate after bwe and thats not possible any more

I must be psychic, because I can predict the topic of these threads, every single time. It’s amazing!

Eviscerates hit for max 5-6k now at best. Sometimes it hits for 2k on guardians.

If we’re throwing stones here, I got hit for an 11k backstab+5k C+d+5k steal in the space of a few seconds yesterday.

So there we go.

Lol you are either trolling or you were really low on health, cause honestly even in full power crit spec, HB won’t one shot anyone. Even with quickness a follow up with whirl will only move the warrior away so he would need to use some moves to finish you up which apparently he didn’t.

I’ve killed glass players in sPvP with BR+HB+WW. Pretty sure I clipped the HB for WW, too.

That aside … lol@ this thread.

Also:

Eviscerates hit for max 5-6k now at best. Sometimes it hits for 2k on guardians.

Probably referring to WvW. Pretty sure you can clear 15k on an Evisc in WvW without a problem. PvE Berserker gear / orbs / food buffs too stronk.

I´v tried it and i wanted to like it, but Bull Charge just simply fails to impress me.

It does knock´down your target, but it also leaves you 5m from your opponent, making the build pretty much “pointless”, since the skills have a whooping up to 60/80 seconds of cooldown.

The only reason to be using this build, is just because of the legendaries. They look “kwel”, and i guess is the main-incentive for many out there to keep using a 100B Build.

To over come the BC-Bug (where you rush through an opponent, knock´ddown…), one has to stun first the target, this way BC will not fail and you can use the 100B Skill quite often (frenzy every 60s)..

Sword #2 -> (if you are fast, add fear me here, prior to) Sword #3 -> Mace #5 or Shield #4 -> Bull Charge followed by Frenzy and EP (once every 60/80 seconds), target should be out of combat thanks to cripple, stun (+confusion), bleeds ( and fear + knock down for ca. 6econds (many will try to remove a condition or some, making them even more vulnerable, not paying attention)..

{sfme}

Jjiinx.8795:

aleiro, I’ll try that, it just really caught me off guard when such a heavily armored player dealt such extreme burst

Sigh… Another common misconception. In this game there is hardly any difference between armor types.

Full set of lvl 80 exotic light gear: 920 defense
Full set of lvl 80 exotic medium gear: 1064 defense
Full set of lvl 80 exotic heavy gear: 1211 defense

Majority of your armor, and hence your mitigation, comes from your toughness rating, which has nothing to do with you class and everything to do with your choice of traits and stats.

If anything, the heavy armor classes are not tanky enough in this game.

Helps to know what class you play. Every class has a way to counter HBs.

This has to be a troll thread. Praying it gets closed quickly.

It won’t be closed if we get logical and topic-related responses.

Thieves get threads closed all the time. Just cry “L2P noob” or “no nerfs plz” multiple times in a row and then a mod will step in and lock it lol.

I see one problem with this thread: Jjiinx plays a thief. The easiest warrior counter in the game.

Go cry somewhere else about how many nerfs your class is getting please.

Not had a 100B complaint thread for a while :o

Was discussing with guildies yesterday, the only 2 thread topics you see people complain about warriors are Killshot, and 100B.

Here I came to this forum for some helpful insight, and while a few people were hospitable, almost everyone else practically responded with “troll” or “hurr durr thief”.

I’m sorry I’m not the best as spvp, and I’m sorry I play thief, but I was really hoping there’d be more people here willing to help out a fellow player. Sure we play different classes, but I don’t see that as a reason to be enemies… I never said that the warrior is overpowered, I just stated what happened to me and my thoughts on that. Thanks to the people who were mature with your responses and actually tried helping me, I’ll keep an eye out for that animation and try and avoid it next time.

And to everyone else, please understand that just because I’m having an issue fighting a certain build of your class doesn’t mean I’m ‘trolling’. Some people are just here for help.

Jjiinx, according to Anet, all characters should be capable of burst damage, whether or not they wear heavy armor. Part of the problem here is that you have a preconceived notion of what a character wearing heavy armor should be able to do. While that would hold true for other MMOs, it does not hold true for GW2. A warrior can be a glass cannon.

Mechanically, “armor” is just a skin with a very minor % increase in actual mitigation against direct power-based attacks only. It is so similar that if Warriors could equip light (and especially medium) armor types, they would barely see the difference.

Later, I’ll probably do the math to see how the differences between armor translate based on a damage equation I saw earlier. I’m curious now.

Glass-cannon heavy takes 14% less damage than glass-cannon light.
Give both +500 toughness: 11% less damage.
Give both +1000 toughness: 9% less damage.

, then he’d swing his weapon rapidly and my health dropped to 0 in roughly a second. WTF just happened?

lolol

nerf frenzy anet

This screenie was taken yesterday, tbh I was surprised when I saw the ele had a big splat of over 10k from eviscerate