Guild Wars 2

dejay.2598:

Daecollo.9578:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Spider_Venom

/thread

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Short_bow

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Serpent%27s_Touch

now /thread

Honestly, either of those are better options that Spider Venom, and, in fact, my build happens to run them both.

But SB is tossed aside cuz S/D S/D is apparently better (even Jumper admitted that he needed SB in his own build), and Serpent’s Touch is a part of DA that for some reason most people won’t even touch nowadays.

Arganthium.5638:

dejay.2598:

Daecollo.9578:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Spider_Venom

/thread

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Short_bow

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Serpent%27s_Touch

now /thread

Honestly, either of those are better options that Spider Venom, and, in fact, my build happens to run them both.

But SB is tossed aside cuz S/D S/D is apparently better (even Jumper admitted that he needed SB in his own build), and Serpent’s Touch is a part of DA that for some reason most people won’t even touch nowadays.

Ok… so basicly your saying you won’t use the one that that will destroy this build… because Jumper said it was bad… ? ? That is really your excuse?

It would be good for this “duel.” because apparently hes specced to destroy you, but your not specced to destroy him? so Warrior=OP?

L2P?

Daecollo.9578:

Arganthium.5638:

dejay.2598:

Daecollo.9578:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Spider_Venom

/thread

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Short_bow

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Serpent%27s_Touch

now /thread

Honestly, either of those are better options that Spider Venom, and, in fact, my build happens to run them both.

But SB is tossed aside cuz S/D S/D is apparently better (even Jumper admitted that he needed SB in his own build), and Serpent’s Touch is a part of DA that for some reason most people won’t even touch nowadays.

Ok… so basicly your saying you won’t use the one that that will destroy this build… because Jumper said it was bad… ? ? That is really your excuse?

It would be good for this “duel.” because apparently hes specced to destroy you, but your not specced to destroy him? so Warrior=OP?

L2P?

Uh

What?

The first statement about S/D S/D being “superior” was obviously sarcasm, and I’m really not sure you looked at what I said about ST.

Furthermore, I’ve been arguing this entire thread that warriors are not OP.

So… Just… What?

Sorry I misread, and I don’t get sarcasm.

Crovax.7854:

katniss.6735:

The regen is OP in WvW.

And nobody cares about wvw because it’s not pvp, it’s wvw

Coloxeus.3480:

look how OP their heal/condition with 3.4k Armor . almost can heal 1.2k HP/ sec with inspiring banner trait

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q58u1ygJU3Q

What a shame. From the thief community side i was under the impression you were supposed to be somewhat decent but all i can see is 3 spam and dodging nothing.
Well, it seems the skill requirements for thieves this days isn’t exactly that high…

i need to dodge before entering a battle bro. and i should NOT or must NOT make my endurance Full. have u ever seen or heard skill trait “Fluid Strikes”
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Fluid_Strikes

Daecollo.9578:

Sorry I misread, and I don’t get sarcasm.

Oh okay.

EDIT: was this sarcasm? xD

Coloxeus.3480:

Crovax.7854:

katniss.6735:

The regen is OP in WvW.

And nobody cares about wvw because it’s not pvp, it’s wvw

Coloxeus.3480:

look how OP their heal/condition with 3.4k Armor . almost can heal 1.2k HP/ sec with inspiring banner trait

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q58u1ygJU3Q

What a shame. From the thief community side i was under the impression you were supposed to be somewhat decent but all i can see is 3 spam and dodging nothing.
Well, it seems the skill requirements for thieves this days isn’t exactly that high…

i need to dodge before entering a battle bro. and i should NOT or must NOT make my endurance Full. have u ever seen or heard skill trait “Fluid Strikes”
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Fluid_Strikes

Woah woah woah. Stop. Just stop. This is pure comedy gold.

So, you place energy sigils on both of your weapons, and then you complain when you have too much endurance that you’re having to waste it.

Then, apparently, in order to fix this issue, you have to evade 30 feet away from your opponent, when you could’ve combo’d your evade with Slice and done more damage overall while still fulfilling your trait requirements.

LOL

Oh, and btw, we weren’t talking about your evading before the fight started.

this is entertaining to watch.

Arganthium.5638:

Coloxeus.3480:

Crovax.7854:

katniss.6735:

The regen is OP in WvW.

And nobody cares about wvw because it’s not pvp, it’s wvw

Coloxeus.3480:

look how OP their heal/condition with 3.4k Armor . almost can heal 1.2k HP/ sec with inspiring banner trait

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q58u1ygJU3Q

What a shame. From the thief community side i was under the impression you were supposed to be somewhat decent but all i can see is 3 spam and dodging nothing.
Well, it seems the skill requirements for thieves this days isn’t exactly that high…

i need to dodge before entering a battle bro. and i should NOT or must NOT make my endurance Full. have u ever seen or heard skill trait “Fluid Strikes”
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Fluid_Strikes

Woah woah woah. Stop. Just stop. This is pure comedy gold.

So, you place energy sigils on both of your weapons, and then you complain when you have too much endurance that you’re having to waste it.

Then, apparently, in order to fix this issue, you have to evade 30 feet away from your opponent, when you could’ve combo’d your evade with Slice and done more damage overall while still fulfilling your trait requirements.

LOL

Oh, and btw, we weren’t talking about your evading before the fight started.

i added u as friend come lets duel we have private arena

Lighter.5631:

this is entertaining to watch.

ya but im not entertained my fingers a bit hurt

Coloxeus.3480:

Arganthium.5638:

Coloxeus.3480:

Crovax.7854:

katniss.6735:

The regen is OP in WvW.

And nobody cares about wvw because it’s not pvp, it’s wvw

Coloxeus.3480:

look how OP their heal/condition with 3.4k Armor . almost can heal 1.2k HP/ sec with inspiring banner trait

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q58u1ygJU3Q

What a shame. From the thief community side i was under the impression you were supposed to be somewhat decent but all i can see is 3 spam and dodging nothing.
Well, it seems the skill requirements for thieves this days isn’t exactly that high…

i need to dodge before entering a battle bro. and i should NOT or must NOT make my endurance Full. have u ever seen or heard skill trait “Fluid Strikes”
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Fluid_Strikes

Woah woah woah. Stop. Just stop. This is pure comedy gold.

So, you place energy sigils on both of your weapons, and then you complain when you have too much endurance that you’re having to waste it.

Then, apparently, in order to fix this issue, you have to evade 30 feet away from your opponent, when you could’ve combo’d your evade with Slice and done more damage overall while still fulfilling your trait requirements.

LOL

Oh, and btw, we weren’t talking about your evading before the fight started.

i added u as friend come lets duel we have private arena

Yeah sure, I can’t play right now but I’ll make sure to find you in-game eventually.

omg what a terrible build.

And omg what a terrible player O_o

Bad players should NEVER post stuff like this and cry for OP stuff, this is EXACTLY what made you dear thief class nerfed to the ground in almost EVERYTHING.

I’m not really saying that warriors are “fine” ( warriors are crazy strong right now, it’s ridicolous players don’t understand it and i can’t even play currently so i don’t know if teams are getting this and bringing wars again into their comps but whatever) since they aren’t, but “proofs” like this are simply ridicolous.

I’ve dueled condi warriors to understand their strenghts, an S/D thief will ALWAYS win against them.

Stun warriors or LB-HA warriors are those we should worry about.

Mrbig.8019:

omg what a terrible build.

And omg what a terrible player O_o

Bad players should NEVER post stuff like this and cry for OP stuff, this is EXACTLY what made you dear thief class nerfed to the ground in almost EVERYTHING.

I’m not really saying that warriors are “fine” ( warriors are crazy strong right now, it’s ridicolous players don’t understand it and i can’t even play currently so i don’t know if teams are getting this and bringing wars again into their comps but whatever) since they aren’t, but “proofs” like this are simply ridicolous.

I’ve dueled condi warriors to understand their strenghts, an S/D thief will ALWAYS win against them.

Stun warriors or LB-HA warriors are those we should worry about.

I agree with most of this, I might say that the matchup between warr and thief is more like 70-30 or 80-20 thief’s favor though.

I love to see a thief complaining about warrior brokenness.

Literally, the class that can spam its broken skill to kingdom come with berserker stats and all the disengages in the world.

Arganthium.5638:

Mrbig.8019:

omg what a terrible build.

And omg what a terrible player O_o

Bad players should NEVER post stuff like this and cry for OP stuff, this is EXACTLY what made you dear thief class nerfed to the ground in almost EVERYTHING.

I’m not really saying that warriors are “fine” ( warriors are crazy strong right now, it’s ridicolous players don’t understand it and i can’t even play currently so i don’t know if teams are getting this and bringing wars again into their comps but whatever) since they aren’t, but “proofs” like this are simply ridicolous.

I’ve dueled condi warriors to understand their strenghts, an S/D thief will ALWAYS win against them.

Stun warriors or LB-HA warriors are those we should worry about.

I agree with most of this, I might say that the matchup between warr and thief is more like 70-30 or 80-20 thief’s favor though.

You said it, the match up is in favor of the thief.

You need to SCREW UP in order to lose ( or the war opponent needs to seriously outplay you), otherwise you’ll win: there’s a chance you might lose, but it’s minimal.

That’s not the case again stun warriors: you need to be almost exclusively in shortbow in order to win or have your Shadow return out of LoS( and it will take you LOOOONG time), otherwise after the second skull crack you’re going to go down like a fly.

It’s all about lucky dodges since skull crack is istant, and the war has so many stuns you can even FAKE them and force your opponent to dodge and hit skull crack right after.

The best build doesn’t even run gs, gs is decent right now simply for its mobility ( dunno why people don’t ttry merciless hammer, since it deals lot more dps than 100 blades and you can even chain stuns right after, but whatever).

Mrbig.8019:

The best build doesn’t even run gs, gs is decent right now simply for its mobility ( dunno why people don’t ttry merciless hammer, since it deals lot more dps than 100 blades and you can even chain stuns right after, but whatever).

It’s absolutely false that Hammer deals more damage than Greatsword. Hammer simply allows for more control and AoE, which can help in a lot of match ups that are difficult for GS, because most of the damage is stationary. GS outdamages Hammer easily, however.

Med.6150:

Mrbig.8019:

The best build doesn’t even run gs, gs is decent right now simply for its mobility ( dunno why people don’t ttry merciless hammer, since it deals lot more dps than 100 blades and you can even chain stuns right after, but whatever).

It’s absolutely false that Hammer deals more damage than Greatsword. Hammer simply allows for more control and AoE, which can help in a lot of match ups that are difficult for GS, because most of the damage is stationary. GS outdamages Hammer easily, however.

Maybe if we account a standard environment, with the standard 20-20-0-0-30 build. Since we’re talking of a GS-cleansing ire build and a STUNNED player,thanks to merciless hammer it will deal 25% more damage.

BY DEFAULT a simple hammer AA chain will outdamage 100blades if you keep attacking for all 100 blades duration and you can easily compare the damage: 100blades is a 3,5 sec channeling dealing, in my build, 4800 blank damage, while hammer AA will deal, in the same time, 5600 blank damage.

This without accounting, of course, GS traits ( which i don’t have) and merciless hammer neither.

In a GS-cleansing ire build, you’ll only get might with every crit, something that could add up to 10% increased damage overall.

With merciless hammer, you gain, on top of a stronger DPS, 25% more damage against unactive foes.

This without account that 100 blades most damaging attack is the last one, which won’t always connect ( according to your opponent stunbreaker).

This without accounting you can easily stop the AA chain with you hammer and going stunlock with backbreaker, staggering blow and earthsacker ( which deals by itself 5-6k crits if your foe is disabled, which again, will 100% occur).

You’re wrong.

This video literally made me cringe to watch it. You do nothing but spam 3 and dodge the entire time. It’s the most mind-numbingly idiotic play-style that has ever graced this game, and the day it is removed will be a good day for everyone, INCLUDING thieves.

Mrbig.8019:

BY DEFAULT a simple hammer AA chain will outdamage 100blades if you keep attacking for all 100 blades duration and you can easily compare the damage: 100blades is a 3,5 sec channeling dealing, in my build, 4800 blank damage, while hammer AA will deal, in the same time, 5600 blank damage.

I am not sure if you are joking or if somebody is feeding you bullkitten. Simple AA chain from hammer deals the same DPS as GS AA chain (takes you 30 seconds to test it and it will open your eyes). A full 100 blades deals 50% more damage than a AA hammer chain during the stun and that’s with Merciless Hammer in a 30 defense build.

This without account that 100 blades most damaging attack is the last one, which won’t always connect ( according to your opponent stunbreaker).

100 blades’ last attack simply deals twice the damage of the other 8 hits. A simple stun break at any point will hurt hammer AA much more dps-wise, because it is a slower weapon and thus each individual hit will make up a greater portion of your total damage.

This without accounting you can easily stop the AA chain with you hammer and going stunlock with backbreaker, staggering blow and earthsacker ( which deals by itself 5-6k crits if your foe is disabled, which again, will 100% occur).

If you deal 5-6k with Earthshaker without Merciless, you will deal 20-24k 100 blades. Skull Crack deals more damage than Earthshaker btw, just to give you a point of reference.

You’re wrong.

Not really, no.

Arganthium.5638:

Coloxeus.3480:

Crovax.7854:

katniss.6735:

The regen is OP in WvW.

And nobody cares about wvw because it’s not pvp, it’s wvw

Coloxeus.3480:

look how OP their heal/condition with 3.4k Armor . almost can heal 1.2k HP/ sec with inspiring banner trait

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q58u1ygJU3Q

What a shame. From the thief community side i was under the impression you were supposed to be somewhat decent but all i can see is 3 spam and dodging nothing.
Well, it seems the skill requirements for thieves this days isn’t exactly that high…

i need to dodge before entering a battle bro. and i should NOT or must NOT make my endurance Full. have u ever seen or heard skill trait “Fluid Strikes”
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Fluid_Strikes

Woah woah woah. Stop. Just stop. This is pure comedy gold.

So, you place energy sigils on both of your weapons, and then you complain when you have too much endurance that you’re having to waste it.

Then, apparently, in order to fix this issue, you have to evade 30 feet away from your opponent, when you could’ve combo’d your evade with Slice and done more damage overall while still fulfilling your trait requirements.

LOL

Oh, and btw, we weren’t talking about your evading before the fight started.

Going to have to agree, this guy is astonishingly deficient in playing capacity.

Coloxeus.3480:

look how OP their heal/condition with 3.4k Armor . almost can heal 1.2k HP/ sec with inspiring banner trait

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q58u1ygJU3Q

So you survived for over 4 minutes against the warrior by mostly pressing #3 skill and nearly beating him. Guess that makes you 2nd in line to be OP

kirito.4138:

Coloxeus.3480:

look how OP their heal/condition with 3.4k Armor . almost can heal 1.2k HP/ sec with inspiring banner trait

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q58u1ygJU3Q

So you survived for over 4 minutes against the warrior by mostly pressing #3 skill and nearly beating him. Guess that makes you 2nd in line to be OP

Even the warrior didn’t play that well. Coloxeus’ gameplay was still just… Terrible though. He would fail so hard against top players.

Arganthium.5638:

kirito.4138:

Coloxeus.3480:

look how OP their heal/condition with 3.4k Armor . almost can heal 1.2k HP/ sec with inspiring banner trait

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q58u1ygJU3Q

So you survived for over 4 minutes against the warrior by mostly pressing #3 skill and nearly beating him. Guess that makes you 2nd in line to be OP

Even the warrior didn’t play that well. Coloxeus’ gameplay was still just… Terrible though. He would fail so hard against top players.

Or anyone using poison?

I see 2 low dmg high survivability builds going at it and one complaining they can’t kill the other.

Darnis.4056:

Stunlock Warrior with that regen is cray cray got chased across the map by some sub30 warrior named Euro hero, and after like a day of kiting he was still at full hp.

In before we get another thread moved to the Warrior Forum where all the pve heros are ready with their L2PADAPTNOOBL2P shut down arguments.

i streamed this game, its my na acc lol.

http://www.twitch.tv/symkitten/b/449875308?t=16m21s

Knote.2904:

I see 2 low dmg high survivability builds going at it and one complaining they can’t kill the other.

Yeah, s/d thief is SOOOOOOOOO low damage trolololol

Leave Warriors Alone!

Zenith.7301:

Knote.2904:

I see 2 low dmg high survivability builds going at it and one complaining they can’t kill the other.

Yeah, s/d thief is SOOOOOOOOO low damage trolololol

Yeah man, did you see those epic crits that guy was pulling off in the video?

Knote.2904:

Zenith.7301:

Knote.2904:

I see 2 low dmg high survivability builds going at it and one complaining they can’t kill the other.

Yeah, s/d thief is SOOOOOOOOO low damage trolololol

Yeah man, did you see those epic crits that guy was pulling off in the video?

I love how he didn’t use poison against a fully healing power specced warrior…

Knote.2904:

Zenith.7301:

Knote.2904:

I see 2 low dmg high survivability builds going at it and one complaining they can’t kill the other.

Yeah, s/d thief is SOOOOOOOOO low damage trolololol

Yeah man, did you see those epic crits that guy was pulling off in the video?

Against a high toughness target….2.5k is pretty kitten good. Thief backstab on a spirit ranger caps at like 4k at best and requires far more setup than a spammable #3 skill and an auto chain that hits nearly as hard as that same skill 3 in the end part of the chain and applies weakness to boot.

That same thief on a sub 1500 toughness target crits easily for 3k per larcenous strike or more.

Oblivion.8307:

Darnis.4056:

Stunlock Warrior with that regen is cray cray got chased across the map by some sub30 warrior named Euro hero, and after like a day of kiting he was still at full hp.

In before we get another thread moved to the Warrior Forum where all the pve heros are ready with their L2PADAPTNOOBL2P shut down arguments.

i streamed this game, its my na acc lol.

http://www.twitch.tv/symkitten/b/449875308?t=16m21s

I kinda liked watching myself play, it’s a bit different then playing…
I found the hp regen to be completely OP…………

kirito.4138:

Coloxeus.3480:

look how OP their heal/condition with 3.4k Armor . almost can heal 1.2k HP/ sec with inspiring banner trait

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q58u1ygJU3Q

So you survived for over 4 minutes against the warrior by mostly pressing #3 skill and nearly beating him. Guess that makes you 2nd in line to be OP

Yep, both those builds, the thief spamming 3 and the warrior lolwut regen are out of line tbh. both of them. IMO.

But then, maybe we are seeing a new kind of bunker ? bunker guardians can do the same, the difference is that their health will be at 10% and then with some CDs, back to 90~100%.

Theres also a ranger build that some ppl are using with prot + regen + TU which is very annoying.

GuildWars2 being a “team” game, these warriors could provide some srs CC to a team fight and some very good regen with that build, Insta rezzes with their elite, new warrior meta, just like thieves, spam 3 or D/P, warrior is stun lock or bullkitten regen.

nerf spirits, nerf aoe, nerf ai, etc. pvp is broken atm ..

Ranger and guardian bunker are doing nowhere near the damage of the warrior or s/d thief.

Especially guardian and ele bunkers don’t come close to the damage warrior puts out for being so survivable.

Don’t even compare guardian to warrior. Guardian only survives and controls the point. He doesn’t kill anything, let alone threaten it.

The problem is guardian is hard to play correctly… this looks like another spirit ranger; lets give someone 10000 passives and watch him go!

Guardian bunker is not hard, please.

Good mesmer is hard. Even a good ele and even d/p non-perma stealth thief. DPS guardian is hard.

Engineer is by far among the hardest to play well.

Still more management then passive play with dodges added in..

Well, yeah, their mitigation is pretty active, that’d be ideal. But instead of engaging mechanics and varied skills rangers got sat with a single option because the rest suck, and the option they got stuck with happens to be the most boring one, ever.

Guardian is one of the most polished classes in the game. Warrior was too, his only issue was uptime in teamfights.

And what did they do? Oh, Give them 800 health regen with minimal investment, and the most broken high cd stances that make them 1v1 gods and temporary immune, but still doesn’t fix them in team fights because the broken 40-50 sec cd godly stances that break them in 1v1 will not be available in many of the teamfights.

Instead of giving them slightly more condi removal more often, they give them 8-10 seconds of condition immunity, 4 seconds of damage immunity, and 8 seconds of stability alongside the brokenness of signet of rage+ lyssa for an unpeelable damage monster.

Everybody should have known that with the damage they do warriors could not possibly have high uptime on targets, but it happened anyways and now you see things melt because there’s no way the other classes were balanced to survive eating a hundred blades or an eviscerate on top of the constant high damage autoattacks of the warrior who’s now regening 800 health per sec and has not only shield stance bur berserker stance and endure pain to wait out the second skull crack into hundred blades.

Just nerf brainless play (Such as rangers, indefinite/uncountable evade frames, defensive mechanics in general such as vigor and protection) just to indirectly improve high skill cap things such as counting frames to be honest. I would not mind if Warriors had ZERO stun breaks at this point because stances are supposed to be used aggressively anyways.

No one would be playing easy mode specs such as triple stance and Mace if it wasn’t three stun breaks with evade on GS. Only reason why that builds working is cause its forgiving due to how triple stance and defense tree = 4 stun breaks. Focus fire kinda doesn’t do much against things like these because BAD PLAY IS FORGIVEN in GW2.

So let me see if I get this right…

You dueled this high regen tanky warrior, basically you guys couldn’t kill each other, you died to your own mistake in the end, but Warrior is OP. Why exactly? Seems to me, that how you look at this stuff is: “Any class I can’t kill with my neeto S/D thief is OP. Period.”

And I lold at that comment at the end of the vid “But it’s not fair.”

It’s fair to be able to spam 3 and have kittenloads of evade, but it isn’t fair to have regen.. No no. All classes should be kitten except the one I play right? That’s called fair, right?

All i see in this video is a thief spamming 3 for auto evade/dps. Besides this is not a 1v1 game and those warriors are mostly good for countering spirit rangers and necros. As soon as Anet changes those 2 builds you will see the warriors less often.

Zenith.7301:

Well, yeah, their mitigation is pretty active, that’d be ideal. But instead of engaging mechanics and varied skills rangers got sat with a single option because the rest suck, and the option they got stuck with happens to be the most boring one, ever.

Guardian is one of the most polished classes in the game. Warrior was too, his only issue was uptime in teamfights.

And what did they do? Oh, Give them 800 health regen with minimal investment, and the most broken high cd stances that make them 1v1 gods and temporary immune, but still doesn’t fix them in team fights because the broken 40-50 sec cd godly stances that break them in 1v1 will not be available in many of the teamfights.

Instead of giving them slightly more condi removal more often, they give them 8-10 seconds of condition immunity, 4 seconds of damage immunity, and 8 seconds of stability alongside the brokenness of signet of rage+ lyssa for an unpeelable damage monster.

Everybody should have known that with the damage they do warriors could not possibly have high uptime on targets, but it happened anyways and now you see things melt because there’s no way the other classes were balanced to survive eating a hundred blades or an eviscerate on top of the constant high damage autoattacks of the warrior who’s now regening 800 health per sec and has not only shield stance bur berserker stance and endure pain to wait out the second skull crack into hundred blades.

When hyperboles like these are presented, we really have to blame ourselves, the playerbase, for the mess that PvP has become.

800 regen per second comes with minimal investment?

Do you honestly believe that a Cleric amulet and a completely defensive build can be considered “minimal investment”? (Because I really hope you know that you have to run 30 in Tactics and 30 in Defense to get to that number). But that’s not all, you will have to run two mediocre utilities for that as well as a heal that you can never activate.

Seriously guys, the hyperboles need to stop, unless you have more fun playing the forums than playing the game.

Med.6150:

Zenith.7301:

Well, yeah, their mitigation is pretty active, that’d be ideal. But instead of engaging mechanics and varied skills rangers got sat with a single option because the rest suck, and the option they got stuck with happens to be the most boring one, ever.

Guardian is one of the most polished classes in the game. Warrior was too, his only issue was uptime in teamfights.

And what did they do? Oh, Give them 800 health regen with minimal investment, and the most broken high cd stances that make them 1v1 gods and temporary immune, but still doesn’t fix them in team fights because the broken 40-50 sec cd godly stances that break them in 1v1 will not be available in many of the teamfights.

Instead of giving them slightly more condi removal more often, they give them 8-10 seconds of condition immunity, 4 seconds of damage immunity, and 8 seconds of stability alongside the brokenness of signet of rage+ lyssa for an unpeelable damage monster.

Everybody should have known that with the damage they do warriors could not possibly have high uptime on targets, but it happened anyways and now you see things melt because there’s no way the other classes were balanced to survive eating a hundred blades or an eviscerate on top of the constant high damage autoattacks of the warrior who’s now regening 800 health per sec and has not only shield stance bur berserker stance and endure pain to wait out the second skull crack into hundred blades.

When hyperboles like these are presented, we really have to blame ourselves, the playerbase, for the mess that PvP has become.

800 regen per second comes with minimal investment?

Do you honestly believe that a Cleric amulet and a completely defensive build can be considered “minimal investment”? (Because I really hope you know that you have to run 30 in Tactics and 30 in Defense to get to that number). But that’s not all, you will have to run two mediocre utilities for that as well as a heal that you can never activate.

Seriously guys, the hyperboles need to stop, unless you have more fun playing the forums than playing the game.

Get off it, elementalists need to spec water and arcana but nobody called that a huge sacrifice when the valkyrie elementalists were running around and people were crying.

The regen achieved by a warrior that can still hit 7k 100b is just dumb.

Outhealing damage is a problem in this game over all Rangers are worse.

these warriors are really strong 1v1 but they are easy to just avoid they can chase you for days but they’ll never really kill you, and if your solo on point you can still get a cap from outplaying them… if your anything other than a dagger thief.

Team fights in this meta are a joke anyways and talked about to death so I’m not even gonna comment in regaurds to that -_-

Yeah, when you see a warrior, just turn around and walk away. They’ll only kill you if you got bored trying to bring their HP down to like 90%.

You obviously need to learn to play. You’re mindlesly dodging and spaming ³ all day long. On top of that you’re always standing in burning field he puts down and you don’t stun break his sword burst (which can be escaped either with skill ² return or shadow step) which bleeds alot.

There’s alot of room to improve your play.

Zenith.7301:

Med.6150:

Zenith.7301:

Well, yeah, their mitigation is pretty active, that’d be ideal. But instead of engaging mechanics and varied skills rangers got sat with a single option because the rest suck, and the option they got stuck with happens to be the most boring one, ever.

Guardian is one of the most polished classes in the game. Warrior was too, his only issue was uptime in teamfights.

And what did they do? Oh, Give them 800 health regen with minimal investment, and the most broken high cd stances that make them 1v1 gods and temporary immune, but still doesn’t fix them in team fights because the broken 40-50 sec cd godly stances that break them in 1v1 will not be available in many of the teamfights.

Instead of giving them slightly more condi removal more often, they give them 8-10 seconds of condition immunity, 4 seconds of damage immunity, and 8 seconds of stability alongside the brokenness of signet of rage+ lyssa for an unpeelable damage monster.

Everybody should have known that with the damage they do warriors could not possibly have high uptime on targets, but it happened anyways and now you see things melt because there’s no way the other classes were balanced to survive eating a hundred blades or an eviscerate on top of the constant high damage autoattacks of the warrior who’s now regening 800 health per sec and has not only shield stance bur berserker stance and endure pain to wait out the second skull crack into hundred blades.

When hyperboles like these are presented, we really have to blame ourselves, the playerbase, for the mess that PvP has become.

800 regen per second comes with minimal investment?

Do you honestly believe that a Cleric amulet and a completely defensive build can be considered “minimal investment”? (Because I really hope you know that you have to run 30 in Tactics and 30 in Defense to get to that number). But that’s not all, you will have to run two mediocre utilities for that as well as a heal that you can never activate.

Seriously guys, the hyperboles need to stop, unless you have more fun playing the forums than playing the game.

Get off it, elementalists need to spec water and arcana but nobody called that a huge sacrifice when the valkyrie elementalists were running around and people were crying.

The regen achieved by a warrior that can still hit 7k 100b is just dumb.

Im having some fun now, with mine warr 0/20/20/0/30.. 800hp regen each sec, with full adraline.

100b that can hit for 16k.. Full beserker,, fighting at mid with the gaurd gives more regen. mace/shield for the stuns.. Anyways you dont need valkrie for 800 regen im just playing with beserker scholar and 0 in tacticts/

matjazmuhic.1649:

You obviously need to learn to play. You’re mindlesly dodging and spaming ³ all day long. On top of that you’re always standing in burning field he puts down and you don’t stun break his sword burst (which can be escaped either with skill ² return or shadow step) which bleeds alot.

There’s alot of room to improve your play.

Yeah L2P. People can try to survive and dodge and whatnot but what good is that when the warrior stays at 90-100% after every burst combo you have? Become a training dummy for the warrior? It’s an attrition build akittens finest. Necros can go back living under a rock. Rangers can do better than this.

But as any other form of condi-type of builds dominating the meta right now, their common denominator is that they can survive a whole ordeal and deal tremendous damage consistently at the same time. Sorry, but you can’t have the best of both worlds. If you do, then clearly something is broken.

Here’s a link to the warrior regen <buner?> build.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQRBMhl21IpTKcMkAEOcAB94Kyiq4UAATPCD2YNA-TsAgzEGpMyZkxIpRWjGBsQYHyMEA

*use ptv/cleric/healing amulets
*800/1000 hps (elite banner)
*insta rezz
*stability
*buffs from banners
*low incoming condi/stun durations
*4s stuns
*group regen
*10% increased revive speed
*warhorn removes condis

etc. try it ~

http://youtu.be/jq4j84cxits

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Warrior-s-New-Meta-Unkillable-too-OP/page/2#post2685049

Its 2 topics under your thread…

I’m aware theres a thread, but there is no link for it, so the lazy ppl can just get in here and get their build ^^