Guild Wars 2

<3 this.

Glad to see that you are making the appropriate reset too.

well will our games we did in soloq still count or will they be unimportant sine i got close to 400 in soloq :P

As someone who suffered through all the lopsided matchmaking in solo q and tpvp, I’m extremely happy to hear this news.

Well done Arenanet. Well done…

I am hopeful, I am only rated 90%, but i worked hard to get there. I believe this change will be good, and loss of ranking may simply be the cost that must be payed by all.

yeeeeeeee

+1

AWWWWWWWWWWW YISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Thanks.
I just have one with with 1 afk and another one with these “top” players doing sync.

And what´s left for the people with 800+ games standing top 50 in solo q? We didn´t exploit the system or decay and played actively every day.
We aren´t getting any kind of reward for being on the top of the tree so much time consistently playing games?

My 800 games in solo q have been for nothing but get my rating reset to 0?

I am ok with matchmaking fix and leaderboard fix, it was SO SO NEEDED.
But… reset legit players rating to 0? C´mon……………

BEFORE resetting leaderboards, please, please, please implement an anti-4v5 system
OR
instant 1-day ban from rated arenas at first game you do not participate at.
At FIRST game, not at fourth or fifth, FIRST.

Nary Why Irk.8150:

And what´s left for the people with 800+ games standing top 50 in solo q? We didn´t exploit the system or decay and played actively every day.
We aren´t getting any kind of reward for being on the top of the tree so much time consistently playing games?

My 800 games in solo q have been for nothing but get my rating reset to 0?

I am ok with matchmaking fix and leaderboard fix, it was SO SO NEEDED.
But… reset legit players rating to 0? C´mon……………

^this

I’m fine with the changes…but i will get nothing for top 20 (several month)?? So another waste of time…..

Nary Why Irk.8150:

And what´s left for the people with 800+ games standing top 50 in solo q? We didn´t exploit the system or decay and played actively every day.
We aren´t getting any kind of reward for being on the top of the tree so much time consistently playing games?

My 800 games in solo q have been for nothing but get my rating reset to 0?

I am ok with matchmaking fix and leaderboard fix, it was SO SO NEEDED.
But… reset legit players rating to 0? C´mon……………

Well you should also be happy cause now you would have a chance to go even higher which is impossible due to the inactive players abusing the decay reset that occupy the top spots..Besides that it doesnt really matter if you synced your way or did it legit.
The guy just said that the system was flawed.So you intentionally or unintentionally abused the system to your advantage by getting into the good team and facing lower rating players..so in the end it doesnt matter.
Im sorry that you feel that your hours of work are gonna go to waste but the truth is that they didnt mean anything in the first place
After the change getting high rank will actually mean something

Avead.5760:

Nary Why Irk.8150:

And what´s left for the people with 800+ games standing top 50 in solo q? We didn´t exploit the system or decay and played actively every day.
We aren´t getting any kind of reward for being on the top of the tree so much time consistently playing games?

My 800 games in solo q have been for nothing but get my rating reset to 0?

I am ok with matchmaking fix and leaderboard fix, it was SO SO NEEDED.
But… reset legit players rating to 0? C´mon……………

Well you should also be happy cause now you would have a chance to go even higher which is impossible due to the inactive players abusing the decay reset that occupy the top spots..Besides that it doesnt really matter if you synced your way or did it legit.
The guy just said that the system was flawed.So you intentionally or unintentionally abused the system to your advantage by getting into the good team and facing lower rating players..so in the end it doesnt matter.
Im sorry that you feel that your hours of work are gonna go to waste but the truth is that they didnt mean anything in the first place

They DO mean, many matches are against top players and that is always a challenge. IT is just some other times when matchmaking puts wrong people on wrong teams.

It is a lot of effort some people with 500 800 1300 matches standing on top are going to not get rewarded..

Finally.

Nary Why Irk.8150:

Avead.5760:

Nary Why Irk.8150:

And what´s left for the people with 800+ games standing top 50 in solo q? We didn´t exploit the system or decay and played actively every day.
We aren´t getting any kind of reward for being on the top of the tree so much time consistently playing games?

My 800 games in solo q have been for nothing but get my rating reset to 0?

I am ok with matchmaking fix and leaderboard fix, it was SO SO NEEDED.
But… reset legit players rating to 0? C´mon……………

Well you should also be happy cause now you would have a chance to go even higher which is impossible due to the inactive players abusing the decay reset that occupy the top spots..Besides that it doesnt really matter if you synced your way or did it legit.
The guy just said that the system was flawed.So you intentionally or unintentionally abused the system to your advantage by getting into the good team and facing lower rating players..so in the end it doesnt matter.
Im sorry that you feel that your hours of work are gonna go to waste but the truth is that they didnt mean anything in the first place

They DO mean, many matches are against top players and that is always a challenge. IT is just some other times when matchmaking puts wrong people on wrong teams.

It is a lot of effort some people with 500 800 1300 matches standing on top are going to not get rewarded..

Harry, i was in that match with those 2 guilds who were syncing about 1 hour ago ( i was the thief).

you were in their team ( i hope casually) and they also carried you ( with this i don’t want to say you were not doing your part, but that’s about it).

you have to understand that if 2-3 people sync in top 200, the rest of the team will be carried snowballing the other team.

It happened to me too ( on the side of snowballers), and it was unfair.

i don’t want to sound like a kitten but if you ( and me and all the other high ranked players) went that far it’s also thanks to syncers we played with ( unintentionally or not).

current system is flawed and it needs to be fixed.

I understand your feelings but this is the right thing to be done.

Mrbig.8019:

Nary Why Irk.8150:

Avead.5760:

Nary Why Irk.8150:

And what´s left for the people with 800+ games standing top 50 in solo q? We didn´t exploit the system or decay and played actively every day.
We aren´t getting any kind of reward for being on the top of the tree so much time consistently playing games?

My 800 games in solo q have been for nothing but get my rating reset to 0?

I am ok with matchmaking fix and leaderboard fix, it was SO SO NEEDED.
But… reset legit players rating to 0? C´mon……………

Well you should also be happy cause now you would have a chance to go even higher which is impossible due to the inactive players abusing the decay reset that occupy the top spots..Besides that it doesnt really matter if you synced your way or did it legit.
The guy just said that the system was flawed.So you intentionally or unintentionally abused the system to your advantage by getting into the good team and facing lower rating players..so in the end it doesnt matter.
Im sorry that you feel that your hours of work are gonna go to waste but the truth is that they didnt mean anything in the first place

They DO mean, many matches are against top players and that is always a challenge. IT is just some other times when matchmaking puts wrong people on wrong teams.

It is a lot of effort some people with 500 800 1300 matches standing on top are going to not get rewarded..

Harry, i was in that match with those 2 guilds who were syncing about 1 hour ago ( i was the thief).

you were in their team ( i hope casually) and they also carried you ( with this i don’t want to say you were not doing your part, but that’s about it).

you have to understand that if 2-3 people sync in top 200, the rest of the team will be carried snowballing the other team.

It happened to me too ( on the side of snowballers), and it was unfair.

i don’t want to sound like a kitten but if you ( and me and all the other high ranked players) went that far it’s also thanks to syncers we played with ( unintentionally or not).

current system is flawed and it needs to be fixed.

I understand your feelings but this is the right thing to be done.

:/ Well… they could give something back, the same way they did with qualifying points..

And when will Lederboards become relevant ? I mean it is fun to see you are ranked and stuff but unless there will be some titles, capes, rewards or something for top ranks they are pointless anyway.

Also maybe it would be smarter to show lederboard ranking at end of match instead of ranks.

Yesterday hit the 1k soloq-games and I have to say:
So what?
Then those numbers will be reset, who cares?

That won’t stop me from playing, since Soloq serves some simple purposes:
- My lack of having a team is compensated
- I can hit other people in the face
- Getting better and better – and this progress won’t be lost because some numbers will be reset
- farming all champion-titles, which won’t be touched aswell

For some people this may all be about ranking, which is rather sad by the way, but aren’t we playing a PvP-Game to hit other players in the face?

do i get free kitten if im rank 1?

Cool

but in the same time i feel sad , because i need to grind the ranks again
The only reason i play tPvP is to get smaked by the Lord

pvp season, that sounds fun. would solve alot of some players complaints as far as leader board goes

Will the people that are on top of the LB getting any titles just like before when it was about the qualifying points?

People wanting rewards are probably playing wrong game mode. Pvp should be played to kill other people and have fun.

Dhunis.9072:

People wanting rewards are probably playing wrong game mode. Pvp should be played to kill other people and have fun.

In GW1 there was zaishen keys, titles, balthazar factions, capes, guild sigils, weapon skins, etc…
just for playing

Same feeling here as I worked hard my way to the top 50, which I just reached with close to 700 games.

I’m happy they fix what’s flawed, but the reset is hard to swallow…

I also don’t understand why you are happy with “by ensuring each team will have a mix of the highest and lowest rated players”.

I’m only interested in playing with high rank players against high rank players, what’s the point if they put in the, sorry for the expression, 1 or 2 noobs that will waste the game.

And I’m talking about gameplay here, not win or lose.

Well, not sure that change is a complete good thing…

Modrah

For team queue will there be titles given out to the top 100 or so? like when qualifier points were removed.

bring warrior nerf with this patch too – thx

I’m extremely glad to hear this. Great change, but hopefully the 4v5’s go down drastically.

On a side note: What is with these people asking for some sort of “compensation” for being somewhere in the top??? I mean seriously….

Damsel Delilah.9084:

For team queue will there be titles given out to the top 100 or so? like when qualifier points were removed.

The reason I could see them not putting out any type of rewards for being in the top 100 this time around is because 50% of the people in the top 100 abuse the lackluster decay mechanic to stay there…

Forz.1725:

On a side note: What is with these people asking for some sort of “compensation” for being somewhere in the top??? I mean seriously….

Whether you believe it or not – it’s actually some good playing needed to end up there.
Plus it’s rather obvious that you aren’t anywhere near a rank that could get a reward :P.

Forz.1725:

I’m extremely glad to hear this. Great change, but hopefully the 4v5’s go down drastically.

On a side note: What is with these people asking for some sort of “compensation” for being somewhere in the top??? I mean seriously….

When Qualifier Points were removed (the old leaderboards) the top players got a title to show for it, so I see no reason why we shouldn’t get the same if we are losing our ranks.

This is a good idea, but it should probably be done after 4v5s and the terrible state of PvP balance is addressed.

Nary Why Irk.8150:

And what´s left for the people with 800+ games standing top 50 in solo q? We didn´t exploit the system or decay and played actively every day.
We aren´t getting any kind of reward for being on the top of the tree so much time consistently playing games?

My 800 games in solo q have been for nothing but get my rating reset to 0?

I am ok with matchmaking fix and leaderboard fix, it was SO SO NEEDED.
But… reset legit players rating to 0? C´mon……………

If you really are “legit”… you can get there again with your mad skills. Good luck! I am loving this change.

Gamn.4296:

Same feeling here as I worked hard my way to the top 50, which I just reached with close to 700 games.

I’m happy they fix what’s flawed, but the reset is hard to swallow…

I also don’t understand why you are happy with “by ensuring each team will have a mix of the highest and lowest rated players”.

I’m only interested in playing with high rank players against high rank players, what’s the point if they put in the, sorry for the expression, 1 or 2 noobs that will waste the game.

And I’m talking about gameplay here, not win or lose.

Well, not sure that change is a complete good thing…

Modrah

This change will ( hopefully) bring back afking players back to play.

If matchmaking creates bad match ups it’s mostly due to few people playing.

If this system works correctly, and people come back to play , you won’t get 10 people ranging from 800 to 100, but 10 people from 0-200, 200-400 and so on.

In other words, if everything goes straight, you’ll overall face better people than now.

With current system, even if we had a 0-400 ladder range in a match, the match up would have been the 5 better ranked players against the worst ones.

In my case, being mostly a 200ish ranked players, i was mostly facing people in the top 100 with teammates ranging from 200 to 1000, often bringing very loopsided matches.

Add syncing and ladder afkers to this and there’s no doubt about how hard climbing up the ladder is if you get unlucky ( and face syncers) once you reach top 200 treshold.

This may not be the best change RIGHT NOW, due to current PvP situation, but in the long run it will be the best decision ever taken.

Justin ODell.9517:

excellent stuff

+1000.

Darnis.4056:

AWWWWWWWWWWW YISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Well yeah, pretty much that.

Nary Why Irk.8150:

And what´s left for the people with 800+ games standing top 50 in solo q? We didn´t exploit the system or decay and played actively every day.
We aren´t getting any kind of reward for being on the top of the tree so much time consistently playing games?

My 800 games in solo q have been for nothing but get my rating reset to 0?

I am ok with matchmaking fix and leaderboard fix, it was SO SO NEEDED.
But… reset legit players rating to 0? C´mon……………

Anet is right to not give awards for the current top X players—it would cause a huge outcry, since so many of the top players are either regular syncers or sitting on a dozen wins from August. I also worked my way up the leaderboard legitimately, and to me this is the best news possible. Think of it this way: if you legitimately made it to top 50, it won’t be hard to get there again when you aren’t competing with 3-month old MMRs and sync queueing. In fact, you can probably go even higher since the competition will be fair.

Will this change include fixing decay? Decay should be permanent. There should be no reason that someone can come back after a month and play a match, Win or Lose, and jump back to top of the LBs.

Luman.2380:

Will this change include fixing decay? Decay should be permanent. There should be no reason that someone can come back after a month and play a match, Win or Lose, and jump back to top of the LBs.

Agree.

One of my guildmates didn’t play a game from August. He played ONE some days ago and he’s now top 100 ( from 600).

I can’t really understand how this can be considered fair in any way.

finally, thanks!

This is a great change. I am sad that I won’t get a title for being in top 200 or something like that. I never cheated/exploited at all but I know at least one game I was on the side of the syncers.

Happy about the changes to matchmaking and hope there are also changes to decay. Would love a cookie though for being high on the leaderboards

This change should also do a great deal toward preventing lopsided matches by ensuring each team will have a mix of the highest and lowest rated players.

Mixing the best players with the worst would be a major frustration for the first (and not much different from what we got right now). How about introducing tiers and mixing the best in a tier with the worst in a tier?

Mrbig.8019:

If this system works correctly, and people come back to play , you won’t get 10 people ranging from 800 to 100, but 10 people from 0-200, 200-400 and so on.

That would be nice. But that’s not what they are saying unless I don’t understand that:

Justin ODell.9517:

This change should also do a great deal toward preventing lopsided matches by ensuring each team will have a mix of the highest and lowest rated players.

Doesn’t that mean that you can have teams like that put together?
- rank 30
- rank 100
- rank 80%
- rank 900
- rank 150

A mix of highest and lowest rank doesn’t sound good to me. It is frustrating to play against good teams with one or two players lost on the map, not knowing what to do.

Right?

Modrah

There are several comments popping up about hoping for a leaderboard reward…just want to caution again that even though it feels nice to be rewarded, doing this would not be in Anet’s best interest. Let’s not repeat the skyhammer farming thread. Remember how angry people get when other people are rewarded even though they didn’t do anything that special?

Extra special top X player rewards should be announced far ahead of time and should never be given for doing well in an oh-so-easily exploitable competition.

Gamn.4296:

Mrbig.8019:

If this system works correctly, and people come back to play , you won’t get 10 people ranging from 800 to 100, but 10 people from 0-200, 200-400 and so on.

That would be nice. But that’s not what they are saying unless I don’t understand that:

Justin ODell.9517:

This change should also do a great deal toward preventing lopsided matches by ensuring each team will have a mix of the highest and lowest rated players.

Doesn’t that mean that you can have teams like that put together?
- rank 30
- rank 100
- rank 80%
- rank 900
- rank 150

A mix of highest and lowest rank doesn’t sound good to me. It is frustrating to play against good teams with one or two players lost on the map, not knowing what to do.

Right?

Modrah

You’re right.

The point is that people do not play due to how broken matchmaking is.

If they add a strong decay feature with this patch ( and it NEEDS to be done, otherwise there’s no point in doing ladder resetting-team shuffling ), people in the high ranks will NEED to play in order to stay where they are.

Add this to the new players flux better matchmaking will create and you now have a good chance to face people of your skill level.

And even if scrubs get on your team, at least you know that the other team has scrubs too, so it won’t be THAT unfair.

can we atleast get to know our mmr before it’s reset since i won’t get a shiny title?

Can a dev answer the decay issue?

I would like to request titles be given to the top x amount of players in team queue. I believe they work hard and deserve a reward for being the best.