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Posted by: Mammoth.1975

Mammoth.1975

Anyone who has <100 games played (that’s everyone right now as far as I know) has a pretty inaccurate rating anyway. Even 100 is pretty meh when randomness plays such a large factor imo.

I’m just sifting the 10-20 game people out when I look at the leaderboard right now. Once people start hitting 100 games, I’ll be ignoring the rating of anyone who has less. It’s still too luck based, not to mention those first few games will largely be in the ‘average’ bracket and will pump your rating by more than a regular game, due to glicko.

If you’re not playing to win, don’t complain when you lose.

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Posted by: Ashanor.5319

Ashanor.5319

Just because someone occasionally lands in a random team doesn’t mean they aren’t syncing at other times. Not saying they are, but you can’t rule it out based on that.

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Posted by: Mammoth.1975

Mammoth.1975

Just because someone occasionally lands in a random team doesn’t mean they aren’t syncing at other times. Not saying they are, but you can’t rule it out based on that.

You’re correct. The point is that the reverse is also correct. Just because someone occasionally lands in a stacked team doesn’t mean they’re syncing.

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Posted by: Ashanor.5319

Ashanor.5319

Just because someone occasionally lands in a random team doesn’t mean they aren’t syncing at other times. Not saying they are, but you can’t rule it out based on that.

You’re correct. The point is that the reverse is also correct. Just because someone occasionally lands in a stacked team doesn’t mean they’re syncing.

Well, they seem to be landing in stacked teams pretty frequently. It also seems like the top players get matched up vs people lower than them instead of mixing them up between two teams. Also, if the system was working correctly, the top players would have 55-60% win rates max for the most part.

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Posted by: Mammoth.1975

Mammoth.1975

Well, they seem to be landing in stacked teams pretty frequently. It also seems like the top players get matched up vs people lower than them instead of mixing them up between two teams. Also, if the system was working correctly, the top players would have 55-60% win rates max for the most part.

Not until they start playing against each other more, which won’t happen much at <20 games. People just sound jealous to me. I didn’t expect people to pull 85%, but then, I didn’t expect to pull 60%. If I can do that, I definitely know a few players who could do 85.

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Posted by: Xom.9264

Xom.9264

Syncing in GW1 was not perfect but you had a very high chance of getting most of your group. Same in GW2, so if you see a group with a random no name thats just the randomness of syncing.

Those screen shots 100% people are syncing no doubt, lying about it that’s just sad. Anet did not stop syncing in GW1 did not ban anyone for doing it so no point in lying.

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Posted by: Mammoth.1975

Mammoth.1975

Just vsed two top one hundred players, a decent player, and two baddies. I can start taking screenshots of good players in ‘unstacked’ teams if a few screenshots are considered evidence.

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Posted by: Krayiss.4926

Krayiss.4926

Get 2 pics 3 hours apart of the exact same team, then we will talk.

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Posted by: Mammoth.1975

Mammoth.1975

Get 2 pics 3 hours apart of the exact same team, then we will talk.

Considering the pool of top 25 players is…. 25, that some of them will play at X time and some of them will play at Y time, it’s going to happen occasionally.

Also, seeing as Eurantien is one of those players, and when he was playing those early games he had at least one close match vs an anet guy (who went like 10 and 0 himself, must be syncing right?) which they were discussing in heart of the mists afterwards, I’m gonna guess that you just got unlucky.

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Posted by: Krayiss.4926

Krayiss.4926

@Tichorum
Why you delete your post in the pic?
“It’s quite obvious he is lying when he gets confronted about the
impossible being done. He says he didn’t say that, his story is
changing. Lies always change when someone tells the truth, they have
one story to stick to but lying tends to go here and there and never seem
to stick to one story even though they try to. I say in the chat it
was the other guy but it was really Tich/Mila the character and forum names
match.”

Wanting the leaderboard to reflect accuracy and not people cheating to
get where they don’t deserve and ruining other peoples ratings are two
different things.

I think everyone wants the syncing to end along with leaderboards being fixed. But Anet doesn’t hasn’t had a stance since GW2 and already said the Rosters are hidden and its not possible.

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Posted by: Eurantien.4632

Eurantien.4632

No one I know of is syncing. I’ve been queued with good players in back to back matches and also with bad players in back to back matches (rank 14 power ranger… you know who you are).

Calling players out like this seems kind of wrong imo. Especially when we were not syncing.

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Posted by: Krayiss.4926

Krayiss.4926

More proof of what happens after syncing and your not with your sync team.
@PICTURE below
You go from 100% to 78% lol Shouldnt of played anymore games

@Eura
noone was called out. Sorry youve taken it that way.
Tich found his way here. Trolling just about on every forum calling people mad… :/
We are not asking for any players specifically to be banned just for the syncing to stop.

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Posted by: Eurantien.4632

Eurantien.4632

More proof of what happens after syncing and your not with your sync team.
Pic below its small
You go from 100% to 78% lol Shouldnt of played anymore games

@Eura
noone was called out. Sorry youve taken it that way.
Tich found his way here. Trolling just about on every forum calling people mad… :/
We are not asking for any players specifically to be banned just for the syncing to stop.

Seems like we were kind of accused of syncing. To be honest, I have tried syncing once with a friend and they ended up on the other team.

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Posted by: Krayiss.4926

Krayiss.4926

@Eura
No no no not at all. Im really sorry if it came out that way to anyone.

I don’t know how to edit picture or I would replace them. Simply showing a team that was syncing and got the same team 3 hours apart.

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Posted by: uberkingkong.8041

uberkingkong.8041

Look at this pic, a previous game I just played.

Notice all 5 of those players are in top 50 of leaderboards. I’m at 300, the people I played with are around me or worse. That’s entirely kittened up they have to be syncing or this matchmaking is so kitten stupid to put 5 top 50 players against people 300-700 on leaderboards. Keldorz rank 14, davinci got banned rank 11, only happy kid rank 35, uhiwi rank 36, dugen x rank 45.

You know why they got such outstanding win loss ratio? because they play teams 300 ratings below them, while they always have people super good rating with them as well.

SYNC or NO SYNC….ANET IS A FAIL in the matchmaking and fairness department.
STOP putting me against AN ENTIRE TEAM OF 1-50 on leaderboards while my team is 300+ in the ratings.

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Posted by: Mammoth.1975

Mammoth.1975

The matchmaking does seem a little off, but the syncing accusations need a lot more evidence before people start including names imo.

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Posted by: Ashanor.5319

Ashanor.5319

Look at this pic, a previous game I just played.

Notice all 5 of those players are in top 50 of leaderboards. I’m at 300, the people I played with are around me or worse. That’s entirely kittened up they have to be syncing or this matchmaking is so kitten stupid to put 5 top 50 players against people 300-700 on leaderboards. Keldorz rank 14, davinci got banned rank 11, only happy kid rank 35, uhiwi rank 36, dugen x rank 45.

You know why they got such outstanding win loss ratio? because they play teams 300 ratings below them, while they always have people super good rating with them as well.

SYNC or NO SYNC….ANET IS A FAIL in the matchmaking and fairness department.
STOP putting me against AN ENTIRE TEAM OF 1-50 on leaderboards while my team is 300+ in the ratings.

I agree on that, Matchmaking seems terrible.

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Posted by: Mammoth.1975

Mammoth.1975

Yeah I’ve been posting here while trying to dodge getting paired with the same terrible far point camping DPS guard who has been in my team the last 5 or so rounds. I’m having a horrible run. Just lost a game where I was winning 1v2s constantly and a 1v3 once on skyhammer cannon.

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Posted by: Socram.6587

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@Eura
noone was called out. Sorry youve taken it that way.
Tich found his way here. Trolling just about on every forum calling people mad… :/
We are not asking for any players specifically to be banned just for the syncing to stop.

Wow… so you are calling other people liars and still directly contradict your own statements? Compare the bold statements in the quote to the picture in this post https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/SYNC-s-gotta-go-Pictures/page/2#post2588694 and ofc to other statements in this forum.

You know that what you’re doing here without any evidence is called slander, a suable offense in the offline world (and even online, at least in Germany for things that are more important than game rankings)?
And no, the two screenshots in the opening post can not be considered as evidence.
Pretty much all official gaming forums do also not allow calling out other players. That’s what report forms are for. I’m quite baffled that ANet has not yet deleted or at least closed this thread.

Don’t get me wrong: I am very opposed to both syncing and using VoIP tools in the solo queue, but threads as this one are just inappropriate.

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Posted by: Krayiss.4926

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@Socram
1st I never said anything in that picture lol …. thats not me, your misinturpretting things
2nd not sure Ive called anyone a liar? Quote me please
Oh wait I said that he lied once previously on the forums blatantly. If you noticed he deleted one of his threads contradicting himself about every talking to Eura but here it is for you Since You Didn’t See It

I guess that means I’m syncing queues with guys I have never even spoken a word to before.

Competency is hard to find around here at times..

Anyways…the only one of those guys I’d ever spoken to was Eurantein.

So summary for you because you haven’t been following.
Never called anyone out in OP
Tich found his way here and I quoted him lying above. So he was possibly Syncing Qing along with on the first day we see pictures of the same group running 3 hours apart.
Hmm what am I missing Socram?

@uberking Ill make a thread about that next

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Posted by: butch.8136

butch.8136

The only problem with syncing is if they use TS, because that gives the big advantage. Otherwise they’re still on the same playing field as the opposing team (if the MM did his work correctly). Yes, they might have a better setup but when you get into the higher ratings people will mostly be able to swap characters to optimize the team comp.

I have been put with my guildie while we weren’t even trying to sync. I had a 5min timer and he had a 1min timer for soloq and we still got together on a team. I mean… you can’t expect me to wait until he’s in a game to queue?

I’d suggest they revisit the MMR to see if they can ‘randomise’ it a bit more but I think we just need more time before a match starts so we have time to get a decent team comp going and communication options (atleast some basic commands).

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Posted by: stunningstyles.7054

stunningstyles.7054

pfft sync que…whats that? :P

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Posted by: Krayiss.4926

Krayiss.4926

Says the #7 guy jk grats man on your hardwork

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Posted by: Derps.7421

Derps.7421

Remind again what you get for being high on the leader boards? Nothing? Cool okay i am going back to duel severs because skyhammer doesn’t belong in solo quene

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Posted by: Baldric.6781

Baldric.6781

It’s a bit too much. U can even appear to be syncing without even trying, just by queueing after the match ends.
And even if Arena.net fixes the algorithm and it’s more random (because right now if u queue with a close rating friend u will most likely get in the same roster), solo leaderboards will still be a joke. After all it’s a team game.
And now what will happen with the team queue, 20 minutes queue’s again ?

And why it’s so important the competitive thing, because the game is awesome, or it isn’t ?

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Posted by: Stealth.9324

Stealth.9324

@archaon 60 secs is a nice idea. Ya using teamspeak is pretty lame Ill make a topic about that

i see now you got that idea of banning using ts from where.. Hm nice topic out there….

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