Guild Wars 2

Subtle.4596:

Sigh, ok man. Lemmings.

It is probably the kindest way of describing the level of play I have seen. And I didn’t say all, I said most of what I have seen so far.

Meurto.8520:

Subtle.4596:

Sigh, ok man. Lemmings.

It is probably the kindest way of describing the level of play I have seen. And I didn’t say all, I said most of what I have seen so far.

You’ve sure been laying it on thick trying to belittle the Yaks players. Just letting you know, constantly trying to say your opponent are bad players and “only win because of numbers” just make you sound like a sore loser. Regardless of whether it’s true or not. But whatever helps you sleep at night!

But I’m sure Yaks will take your expert opinion on their forces ability in to consideration.

Signed,

A Lemming.

Munki.9452:

Meurto.8520:

Subtle.4596:

Sigh, ok man. Lemmings.

It is probably the kindest way of describing the level of play I have seen. And I didn’t say all, I said most of what I have seen so far.

You’ve sure been laying it on thick trying to belittle the Yaks players. Just letting you know, constantly trying to say your opponent are bad players and “only win because of numbers” just make you sound like a sore loser. Regardless of whether it’s true or not. But whatever helps you sleep at night!

But I’m sure Yaks will take your expert opinion on their forces ability in to consideration.

Signed,

A Lemming.

I would imagine the sore losers are probably the ones not even joining the borderlands. I show up every night to try to regain some territory for our server and the simple truth is we are grossly outnumbered.

Obviously I have not played against everyone on Yak’s, I simply provided my observations of the play that I had witnessed during this match up. If you are offended by the comments then perhaps you fall into that group?

I wouldn’t say I’m offended. I am just saying it makes you look like a sore loser.

The truth of the matter is, when a server is dominating it attracts the PvErs and the fair weather people who like ‘winning’… consequently when the chips are down usually you only have the most stalwart and usually better players stick around. So it stands to reason that the Yaks people you see running around is not indicative of the force you would face when the match was competitive.

And for the record, I consider myself quite average at best. I know my class fairly well but I am sure I have a large amount of room to grow.

You guys bored out there Yaks? I know I would be.

the patch screwed us. so badly. we had 50-60 defending eth before the patch.

i load in, and we can only muster 3 while yaks has 30.

So.. took Dawns eye for like 5 minutes. Then a 10:1 ratio of Yaks shows up and destroys it. Good job. Skillful and whatnot.

So.. took Dawns eye for like 5 minutes. Then a 10:1 ratio of Yaks shows up and destroys it. Good job. Skillful and whatnot.GoM btw.

SF player here,
I do like how other threads are full of “Orb hackers!” & “Nice use of the culling!”

It might feel like a bit of a mismatch this round but we can still get our pvp on! You remember that match…Playing that one MMO …we all played. You just knew you couldn’t “win” but kitten you came to PvP! So you try….OMG Do I try! You pray…. OMG you pray every God kitten DAY HEYYEYAAEYAAAEYAEYAA …… kitten you He Man! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GggY4TEYbk&feature=related

Hey Yaks…

It shows what kind of players you have when you mortar the GOM spawn area in Eternal Battlegrounds.

Im not saying all of you do it but these same players that spawn kill will be the ones that abandon you if you get matched to better teams.

melodyca.8921:

Hey Yaks…

It shows what kind of players you have when you mortar the GOM spawn area in Eternal Battlegrounds.

Im not saying all of you do it but these same players that spawn kill will be the ones that abandon you if you get matched to better teams.

It’s been said many times already that we have these players. I’ve seen the commanders ask them many times to stop, but they won’t listen. It’s sad really, they have nothing else to do but want to PvP and know that’s where they’ll get it.

If this is so, then so be it. It’ll be good if they leave us, we don’t want those kinds of players anyways.

Honestly I appreciate what some Yak’s Bend commanders are doing to stop the spawn camping, I really do. But the sheer numbers you have on us almost guarantees that there will be enough that will spawn camp us.

Just an hour or so ago they were just sitting outside the Citadel gate dancing, gesturing, and pointing(thank god this isn’t WoW). It’s frustrating.

While I’m sure that before the transfers happened we would have had a hell of a fight on our hands against you and Sorrows Furnace, everyone is just tired of being overwhelmed.

I myself will be checking WvW every so often, but I don’t think I’ll be joining until the next matchup. So congrats to you Yak’s Bend that are not newly transferred, and have not been spawn camping, you did well and it’s been fun fighting you.

Foxinstrazt.4920:

While I’m sure that before the transfers happened we would have had a hell of a fight on our hands against you and Sorrows Furnace, everyone is just tired of being overwhelmed.

Could you elaborate? I wasn’t aware of us getting transfers, but rather SoR getting transfers when we were already on even footing with them the last match before those transfers. Our numbers simply don’t allow the battle to be good (relative to this match) because we got stomped before where we were vastly outnumbered and fell through the tiers.

Also, I’m very sorry to hear of the poor behavior of those campers. :/ Though this is coming from someone who just plays in WvW from time to time and am probably not even known among my servers’ WvW regulars. I was really just hoping for a match like 2 weeks ago.

IamALie.8190:

Foxinstrazt.4920:

While I’m sure that before the transfers happened we would have had a hell of a fight on our hands against you and Sorrows Furnace, everyone is just tired of being overwhelmed.

Could you elaborate? I wasn’t aware of us getting transfers, but rather SoR getting transfers when we were already on even footing with them the last match before those transfers. Our numbers simply don’t allow the battle to be good (relative to this match) because we got stomped before where we were vastly outnumbered and fell through the tiers.

I’m not exactly sure myself, but several dozen players have said they’ve seen guilds from GoM on Yak’s Bend. As I have not been paying any attention to guilds since I’ve started, I can’t confirm, but the general consensus I’ve gotten is that several guilds transferred to YB simply to win.

As I said, I’m not sure, but it’s nice to know most YB players are not the royal d-bags I’ve had to deal with today.

At least Yak is not exploiting invulnerable area to build siege in so it is untouchable. Not going to say which server but it is not GoM or Yak:p

Foxinstrazt.4920:

IamALie.8190:

Foxinstrazt.4920:

While I’m sure that before the transfers happened we would have had a hell of a fight on our hands against you and Sorrows Furnace, everyone is just tired of being overwhelmed.

Could you elaborate? I wasn’t aware of us getting transfers, but rather SoR getting transfers when we were already on even footing with them the last match before those transfers. Our numbers simply don’t allow the battle to be good (relative to this match) because we got stomped before where we were vastly outnumbered and fell through the tiers.

I’m not exactly sure myself, but several dozen players have said they’ve seen guilds from GoM on Yak’s Bend. As I have not been paying any attention to guilds since I’ve started, I can’t confirm, but the general consensus I’ve gotten is that several guilds transferred to YB simply to win.

As I said, I’m not sure, but it’s nice to know most YB players are not the royal d-bags I’ve had to deal with today.

Oh is that so? I suppose that could be very possible, does to any server winning to my knowledge. :/ Every server has got their coattail riders and whatnot, same with the d-bags and honorable players. Let’s just hope its more on the honorable side.

Moddo.7105:

At least Yak is not exploiting invulnerable area to build siege in so it is untouchable. Not going to say which server but it is not GoM or Yak:p

I would say that’s still not worse than spawn camping, and I’m from Yaks Bend.

edit: apparently the word “bad” followed by the word “as” is censored

The score I looked at last night was ridiculous, 230K to 23K and 22K? This ended real early this week. I have no reason to go into WvW this week, just gonna run around Orr and do some dungeons.

I’m curious who are those guilds that move from GoM to Yaks. Can’t you tell us?

Silicate.4061:

So.. took Dawns eye for like 5 minutes. Then a 10:1 ratio of Yaks shows up and destroys it. Good job. Skillful and whatnot.

So.. took Dawns eye for like 5 minutes. Then a 10:1 ratio of Yaks shows up and destroys it. Good job. Skillful and whatnot.GoM btw.

I was there. It was maybe 3:1 at most, not 10:1. Stop embellishing.

It’s unfortunate that transfers from the previous week or SoR bumped YB down to a bracket we shouldn’t be in.

Please don’t blame YB for dominating/camping this week. Instead, blame ANet for not locking down WvW transfers which are effectively destroying matchmaking.

I have litterally FORCED Yaks bend pugs to walk away from a tower to help stop spawn camping. I have litterally WATCHED SF/GOM take a tower (when the had none) without calling in troops who were spawn camping and not watching the map. Grow up Yaks – spawn camping is not for us.

melodyca.8921:

Hey Yaks!

Its not like you have a low score. Why must you spawn camp? Talk about tactless and classless.

And now you’re trebbing the spawn area? Stay Classy!

Here is a crazy idea, use another exit. The only way you can be spawned camped in this game is because you choose to be. How can you QQ about something you are doing to yourself?

Last night in EB we, SF, lost Mendon after having it for 1-2 hrs and lot of us spending time upgrading, escorting cows, defending supplies. When it got attacked we have maybe 6-10 defenders, mean while two commanders and a horde of people are within eyesight fighting at the spawn and none came to help defend mendon.

As a player I could care less about the score. Target rich environment is what I like and am playing way more this week then I did last week when we were stomping. If you want to quit or spend your time QQing, that is fine, I simply do not care. However when we take an objective I will set aside my personal fun and come help, for-the-realm kinda kitten. I escort, I run supplies, I provided BP, etc. To see that kitten away because of a bunch of fails being camped at their spawn when they can simply run past or out the side exit makes me hate my server.

I am glad they are camping you at your spawn, you deserve it.

Just want to say thanks to the SF Group who ignored my GOM group when we were taking Yaks Guard Points and such. My group were the ones that cheered when you took down those Yaks further down.

Niim.9260:

melodyca.8921:

Hey Yaks!

Its not like you have a low score. Why must you spawn camp? Talk about tactless and classless.

And now you’re trebbing the spawn area? Stay Classy!

Here is a crazy idea, use another exit. The only way you can be spawned camped in this game is because you choose to be. How can you QQ about something you are doing to yourself?

Last night in EB we, SF, lost Mendon after having it for 1-2 hrs and lot of us spending time upgrading, escorting cows, defending supplies. When it got attacked we have maybe 6-10 defenders, mean while two commanders and a horde of people are within eyesight fighting at the spawn and none came to help defend mendon.

As a player I could care less about the score. Target rich environment is what I like and am playing way more this week then I did last week when we were stomping. If you want to quit or spend your time QQing, that is fine, I simply do not care. However when we take an objective I will set aside my personal fun and come help, for-the-realm kinda kitten. I escort, I run supplies, I provided BP, etc. To see that kitten away because of a bunch of fails being camped at their spawn when they can simply run past or out the side exit makes me hate my server.

I am glad they are camping you at your spawn, you deserve it.

Did you ever think that maybe some of those Yaks camp the exits too? I’ve seen it and experienced it.

melodyca.8921:

Did you ever think that maybe some of those Yaks camp the exits too? I’ve seen it and experienced it.

They were not, and I spend all my time in WvW and I have never seen all three gates being camped. In fact for EB last night, I never even used the side gate. I ran out the front and turned right and ran without interruption, every single time I was sent to spawn. There is simply no reason at all to be spawn camped. That one time 2 players were camping a side exit, just doesn’t cut it as an excuse.

Subtle.4596:

I have litterally FORCED Yaks bend pugs to walk away from a tower to help stop spawn camping. I have litterally WATCHED SF/GOM take a tower (when the had none) without calling in troops who were spawn camping and not watching the map. Grow up Yaks – spawn camping is not for us.

Commander speaks the truth. Most of the big organized guilds pulled back giving enough time for GoM to come out. Can’t make the PUGers (hyaenas) what they do best.

Our (Yaks) /map and /team chat last night was filled with plea to stop camping and allow GoM/SF to zerg out.

Niim.9260:

melodyca.8921:

Did you ever think that maybe some of those Yaks camp the exits too? I’ve seen it and experienced it.

They were not, and I spend all my time in WvW and I have never seen all three gates being camped. In fact for EB last night, I never even used the side gate. I ran out the front and turned right and ran without interruption, every single time I was sent to spawn. There is simply no reason at all to be spawn camped. That one time 2 players were camping a side exit, just doesn’t cut it as an excuse.

You have this unique ability to be in every spawn area? Look. I’ve seen it done so its obvious we’ll have to agree to disagree.

Very true. I for one was constantly telling people to leave it alone (spawns). I want epic fights and keep battles. I don’t want whining and finger pointing. What Yak’s had to put up with last week was brutal. SOR was like a bulldozer that went over both us AND GOM. So I am ashamed to see people spawn camping when we had the exact same thing done to us last week and we didn’t like it either. What comes around goes around guys.

We had some good fun on Saturday/Sunday though. We were being trebbed on both sides of Garrison by Cliff and Longview. It was awesome. Yeah, there is a zerg thing sometimes. That’s on all servers, and if you say it’s not you are a liar. I myself don’t run in Zergs. I run in groups of people that are working together through Vent etc to accomplish something.

I don’t ride the Karma train. And before Subtle says anything about what I ride: Shut up Subtle.

Yes dear…

Don’t tell them we actually co-ordinate we will lose our illusion of being lemmings.

You are my lemming baby:)

I would follow you anywhere….

You guys need a room or an instance together?

No, we good – thanks for asking tho..

(tryin to lighten up the thread a little :P )

Sounds like the mood is already trashed….

melodyca.8921:

You have this unique ability to be in every spawn area? Look. I’ve seen it done so its obvious we’ll have to agree to disagree.

I do not need to be. The reason fighting goes on there is because it is PvP with a safety net. Both sides have the ability to retreat to their guards if they are pushed. That is why folks are there, not because of a lack of choice. The side exits provide no support for that style of play and thus there is rarely anyone fighting there. You might get a ganker or two, but hardly camping. Given the general lack of interest in using the side exists, what group of people is going to stay there doing nothing, when they can join the back and forth push at the main gate?

Even if three exit camping happens, and I doubt it does unless it is for a strategic reason and what could that be at this point?, it is not happening near enough to count for the epic level of QQ about base camping in this thread. The majority of the QQ comes from people able to use the side gates or simply turn left or right instead of running straight forward. They just choose not to.

Keep it positive guys. SF and GoM both can take and hold points. A small group of people including myself on GoM took a few points and held them for a while. You don’t need 50+ people to defend a camp – just a few people with their head on a swivel and the ability to call out where help is needed. If we can get coordinated like we were for a small bit last night, we can make a difference. This match up is lost, but you can definitely improve for the next one.

Stay positive GoM – we will bounce back.

Transfered to another server already to enjoy wvw. Not this one sided k rap.

I think we need to be able to build siege at base, cause if there was one way to fight out of such a situation like this, it’s by building your way out.

I blame server transfers and the mechanisms behind WvW for this. I’ve been on Yak’s since the beginning, and more often than not Yak’s Bend is the one getting completely kittenon, many times coming in dead last by tens of thousands of points. When the fights have been even there’s been a lot of sportsmanship, with Yak’s letting other servers take back their orbs when hacking has occurred. It’s true #1 servers do not attract #1 players, they attract bottom feeders, but Yak’s has also become a lot more organized in the last month than it ever was. In the end Anet needs to revisit the mechanics behind WvW in general and the ranking system in particular, but in the meantime other servers need to pick up their game. That’s what Yak’s Bend did; complaining about being outnumbered and everyone leaving our server (most major guilds did in fact leave us) only got us so far.

Ya the mechanics for matching the servers so far has been like a yo-yo. Looks like the next match up YB is going to be in rough waters, since we are going to be bumped 2 brackets again.

Kazak.8459:

Ya the mechanics for matching the servers so far has been like a yo-yo. Looks like the next match up YB is going to be in rough waters, since we are going to be bumped 2 brackets again.

This happens all the time, we dominate, go WAY up, lose the band wagon hoppers, then drop again, and the cycle restarts. Server transfers are killing it. We had a great close match two weeks ago that was completely ruined a week later by transfers.

Would be nice if you can only go up/down only one bracket, even though you dominate. So if you dominate two weeks in a row, two brackets up.

TKG and COCO guilds with siege equipment at SF spawn.
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I cannot believe all the kittening whining going on here. It’s like this on every single board. Just whining about orbs, zergs, and unskilled players when one side is dominating. I’m sure when the whiners win they’re all just skilled superheroes. Heh. It’s so cliched already.

This is totally absurd the spawn camping – which can be solved by placing fixed siege at the main bases.

That will always force the spawn campers to defend the nearest bases instead of harassing the spawn. It is what is should be all about. This forced them to defend possibly 3 bases and stretches them thin. Also forced them to be coordinated in their defense. Not to mention at least it gives us underpopulated people at GOM ‘something’ to do instead of logging into 5 vs 50. At least I can get points pissing them off with siege possibly even take down a wall.

Our main spawn should be a fortress.

Chewie.1249:

TKG and COCO guilds with siege equipment at SF spawn.
[IMG]http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c170/mrmoof/gw068_zps4159d62d.jpg[/IMG]

They own the objective, they are not allowed to put siege there? Seriously, if you are being spawn camped at your citadel, you just need to uninstall the game. You have a 360 degree area around that you can drop off of, yet your complaining because they put siege at a supply camp they own??

Last week when YB was the underdog, we got the same treatment and were spawn camped. All we did was use another exit, or jump off the cliffs between exits. Leave the camping zerg and go into the enemy territory and zerg the back towers/supply villages.

Ya it will be overtaken soon by the camping zerg, but at least you’d get Karma and some badges. You really don’t have to come out from the camping zerg exits….

I do agree with the idea of being able to build siege at spawn — at least on borderlands. I don’t think it makes sense to allow that on BG because of the proximity to the keep. However, maybe that would be fine to keep things interesting when one server is dominating.

SF player here, and to be honest, the only reason I’ve gone into WvW this week is to use the bank/TP without paying travel costs…

Bear on the job.6273:

SF player here, and to be honest, the only reason I’ve gone into WvW this week is to use the bank/TP without paying travel costs…

Something to be proud of.