Guild Wars 2

Yeah, it was done through the game interface by about 50 people (reported this guy). At this point, it doesn’t look like they do anything about these type of people though. Truly, we know it isn’t your whole server. We did mention which guild it was above as well. Rpgtabbycat is correct that it gives the server and specifically the guild doing this (more than one captured in the screenie) a but rep. I’m not seeing a lot of the normal faces I see each week. Especially the commanders from TC. I guess they decided to get some money in preparation and hope for a better match next week.

I noticed a lot of SoR guys are pretty desperate for kills, so in typical tactician fashion I was urging players not to feed them by jumping spawn into 15+. They already own the entire map, just trying to play tactically with what we have. =D

@ ghostchipz.2341

Mainly high server population and better than average off-hours population.

Other contributing factors:

Casual zergs that will follow commanders, some of whom are reasonably component.

Players seem to maintain morale longer than those on other servers when they aren’t doing well.

I’m on SoR, and I hate hacking. Try to report them and especially get their names. Send the info to exploits@arenanet.com, as I don’t think the devs want things like that posted publicly on the forums.

We don’t want them on our server wasting player slots and messing up everyone’s game experience. Please don’t take their actions as any sort of representation of SoR. Hackers make up a tiny percent of the playerbase. I see all Guild Wars 2 players as a single community. We are “at war” with other servers in WvW, but for the sake of fun and good sportsmanship.

As for spawn camping, I’ve seen both sides of that. Most new players do not realize that there are two other exits from spawn. When I see our own team getting camped, I try to explain this to the players and direct them to the alternate routes. Personally, I have never had a problem getting out of spawn thanks to the side roads.

Score update, 04:19 GMT (aka 00:19 EDT)

To be honest, I’ve taken this opportunity to do a little weapons crafting. But now it’s past my bedtime.

Good fight TC & ET, but I think we won this week. Best of luck on your upcoming fights…

- [RUN] Commander Fox

Osirus Fox.6380:

Good fight TC & ET, but I think we won this week. Best of luck on your upcoming fights…

- [RUN] Commander Fox

I can see this is a bit tongue in cheek but I’ve enjoyed playing against SoR. We didn’t have the numbers to be competitive this week but we’ve learn’t some tactics from SoR and we’ve managed to capture and hold a couple of towers despite the best efforts from SoR.

It’s been good fun in the most part and I’m sure our server will continue to grow and give you a good run next time we meet.

WvW has become flavor of the week. Everyone picks a server and xfers there and boom they win a couple weeks. Then after a few wins they will lose one week then starts the mass exodus. Ask Henge of Denravi what that’s like. They were in like the top 3 then came the giant sucking vacuum and WHOOSH.

Servers need to be set in stone for longer than a week. A month at minimum. There is no need to be server hopping even once a week it’s ridiculous. How can people not know where their friends are? Do they even talk to them before they install the game to find out what server they’re on?

Wreckdum.8367:

WvW has become flavor of the week. Everyone picks a server and xfers there and boom they win a couple weeks. Then after a few wins they will lose one week then starts the mass exodus. Ask Henge of Denravi what that’s like. They were in like the top 3 then came the giant sucking vacuum and WHOOSH.

Servers need to be set in stone for longer than a week. A month at minimum. There is no need to be server hopping even once a week it’s ridiculous. How can people not know where their friends are? Do they even talk to them before they install the game to find out what server they’re on?

Agreed Server transfers need to be limited to once a month if not longer. And I’m not buying into the whole “so people can find their friends” bs. The game has been out for some time now. If people aren’t with their friends now..they never will be.

Transferred onto ET yesterday just to try to help the SEVERE underdogs. Killed a lot of NPC veterans, doyaks, a bunch of SoR, some TC, and died some…but did get a whole lot of karma! Had fun all and good luck.

-Hemlock Rose

Arrr, Hemlock Rose, we meet again. Ye be most annoyin’ on da field.

Tank ye fer da funs on yer own map tonight, SoR. Was most interestin’ takin’ da towas and almost takin’ yer garrison.

Thanks to Housin and everyone else in EB tonight – you folks flipped three tier 3 towers before my internet died! A great effort.

~Nyari Cil, Queen.

P.S – Sneaky cats are best >.> <3 you Langor!

They are changing transfers to one per week come Nov 1st, but I’m not sure it’s going to be enough we’ll see. They just need to keep one day transfers and lock you out of WvW on that server for like 2 weeks whenever you transfer.

That way pve people remain happy, but if you decide to move for pvp, you will want to make sure you pick the right server.

So … SoR is overcompensating for something.

Good little dust-up on the EB tonight. TC pushing on keeps in the south allowed our little crew to cap and hold some real estate up north. Was fun all around, see you peeps tomorrow!

unfortunately for TC we will have to go through this 1v1 crap next week when we fight CD and HoD(dead server). Hold on TC, we will eventually get a good match-up

OldFrightful.2469:

So … SoR is overcompensating for something.

HaHa, is this referring to another 10+ golem zerg on garrison then wood?

I will admit me and my guild KIWI were responsible for starting this then PUGS came and it got a little out of hand, may have been 17+ as keep had 1700 resources that went to 0.

To bad you wiped them all out at Dawn’s and we were trying to take it from you for a very long time.

Thank you for that fight it was thrilling despite our failed mesmer bombs wiping us multiple times and you 10+ arrow carts

Thanks everybody (both SoR and fellow TCers) for a very entertaining night. I had a lot of fun. I have to say that you [TW] guys are truly something. I was happily maintaining a modest killing to dying ratio until you folks came along and stomped me in Dane and QL several times in a row.

I missed all the fun at Dawn’s. =( I was the self-appointed yak runner because I can give it 100% swiftness uptime. Ah well it was neat watching a wall suddenly pop into existence and mess up an assault because a yak slipped in.

- Hella Firestarter, lvl 80 Asura Engi, self-proclaimed “Yak Runner”

Monokoko.3718:

OldFrightful.2469:

So … SoR is overcompensating for something.

HaHa, is this referring to another 10+ golem zerg on garrison then wood?

I will admit me and my guild KIWI were responsible for starting this then PUGS came and it got a little out of hand, may have been 17+ as keep had 1700 resources that went to 0.

To bad you wiped them all out at Dawn’s and we were trying to take it from you for a very long time.

Thank you for that fight it was thrilling despite our failed mesmer bombs wiping us multiple times and you 10+ arrow carts

Good fun there, for sure.

I got on later than usual tonight and didn’t expect us (TC) to be holding much. Was exciting to see we had the home garrison, so I headed there figuring it would be attacked rather soon. Halfway down the cliff and I see “20+ golems incoming to garrison!” So it wasn’t quite that many, haha. We made you work for Dawn’s Eyrie though, even with that wall down for an hour or something. Good fun, see ya tomorrow night.

For the Coast!

I have nothing but respect for you guys at TC. You just don’t give up.

For everyone saying SoR is unskilled and whatnot, don’t go thinking we’re taking the match all that seriously when we’ve locked in a mathematical win on day 4. I know my entire guild minus one person was in WvW with alts below level 50 today, and more than once people were asking others to let the enemies take towers. Towers can nullify numbers and allow us to properly pit our minds and our people against eachother, afterall.

Great defenses at Dawn’s. I’m sure by the time this week is up, you’ll be incapable of losing that tower to anyone at any time. o_o

We only really ever lost DE when we had specific PVE commanders log into WvW that just use it to farm karma and badges for their legendaries, but have not yet come to the understanding that defending a tower can get you alot of badges, but then rather draw people off of the main force, because people switch to lemming mode when they see a blue icon, honestly I really wish said guild would stop fielding commanders in WvW because they are quite literally just wasting their gold on it.

Monokoko.3718:

OldFrightful.2469:

So … SoR is overcompensating for something.

HaHa, is this referring to another 10+ golem zerg on garrison then wood?

I will admit me and my guild KIWI were responsible for starting this then PUGS came and it got a little out of hand, may have been 17+ as keep had 1700 resources that went to 0.

To bad you wiped them all out at Dawn’s and we were trying to take it from you for a very long time.

Thank you for that fight it was thrilling despite our failed mesmer bombs wiping us multiple times and you 10+ arrow carts

i was behind the door when you guys broke through. my only option at that point was “throw out as much AoE as possible before you get killed.” from there it was basically “door’s down, they’re coming through. more…… more……. still coming…….. more……wait……halfway…….man, they blew a lot of gold to take this place back……more….. sweet crap, it’s a golem parade…….. more…… more……ok, now they’re all inside.”

unfortunately, halfway through the defense at DE, i needed to head to bed. our match against BG taught quite a few of us how to take, defend and hold the two northern towers for hours at a time against all odds. we’ve gotten a few rookie commanders who weren’t around during that time, and the result is what was going on previous to us taking any real estate in the north. i had to settle everyone down, and stop them from trickling in to WH to get farmed. once we were all on the same page, though, we were flowing pretty well.

to be honest, i wasn’t even expecting our initial attack on TCG to go as well as it did. we had a clandestine operation going on during all of that. it ended up being a case of one or the other was going to succeed. either way, we’d end up happy with the result. it also served as a very good learning experience for everyone involved. as we saw how we need to operate to succeed against a seemingly overwhelming force, and hopefully that continues.

Lost respect for some of the WvW guilds tonight due to their loss of control and acting childishly, but good fights with TC. Wounded trusts from guild to guild is not easily formed again, but I will look forward to those guilds acting more maturely in the future. I won’t point out fingers to anyone but you know what guilds I’m talking about.

Telegraph.7509:

ghostchipz.2341:

Can i just ask with out getting trolled has the make up of TC server changed as people keep posting that most of your server are Casual WvW players how did you get to Teir 3.
I am just intrested i am in no way being Rude
thanks

We have a few very strong and organized guilds in TC, with highly competent commanders. We also have a lot of strong “casual” players with a lot of experience and know-how. That kind of organization allows us to get to T3, and allows us to be extremely competitive on Friday nights when it matters a lot (particularly when a lot of said guilds and players stay up to 4 AM Saturday morning to play!)

Our problem is that our organization is poor compared to the T1/T2 servers like SoR, and we can’t quite cover everything. For example: at the start of this matchup, TC did quite well on two of the borderlands, but was off the map in ET borderlands and EB 4 hours into the matchup. Not coincidentally, we have very good organization in the two borderlands that we were holding our ground, but not so good in ET BL and EB. Against T3 or below servers, this is okay because they won’t have the complete organization on every map either, but against SoR, it causes a complete wipe on two maps, a huge score difference, and resultant waning interest in part of the player base. Of course, we also don’t have the same oversea coverage (we have some now), but that’s not what cost us the matchup this time.

That’s just how it is right now. There is a huge gap between T1/T2 and T3 servers.

The real issue here is not so much the organization or server transfers but that im on SOR and not on TC. Someone did a study ( can’t find link so you will have to take my word for it), and concluded that i count as 6 or 7 if not 8 orbs. This is a huge issue that Anet needs to take a look at and maybe nerf me a bit. Not sure if im an exploit or not though so if anyone can clarify it would be greatly appreciated.

@Usagi

Thanks for reporting them, however if I’m not present I do not know who is exploiting. Do you possibly have any screenshot, or a time frame of when this happened? It would make it a lot easier on me to find the culprits an kick them out of the guild. I do not condone hacking/exploiting/poor sportsmanship in my guild.

Edit:

After some investigating, I found out who the four players were. They are being removed from the guild. Thanks again for making me aware of this.

I don’t know how anyone could pretend to think SoR has even a 20% unskilled population in their WvWvW. You guys have a lot of experience and coordination across the board, when you are putting your backs into it… like during weekend primetime.

@Mara. Thanks for being a good sport and standing up for the integrity of the game. As a some-time commander on the coast, you have my sincerest respect and thanks.

Yeah their unskilled population is more or less 75%

yiannit.2083:

Yeah their unskilled population is more or less 75%

Among other ridiculous, made-up statistics… I heard that 40% of trees are actually birds and that 127% of the worlds cheese is made in Mongolia.

@ Scorpio Shirica

Heh, thanks. But you have to realize when there is accusations of a guild/server doing not so honorable stuff, it only takes those few people to ruin it for everyone else. Whether it be ruining the image of their guild or their server. Its unacceptable.

In [EPIC]’s case, a majority of us have not been in WvW this week ( I admit.). This is not to be offensive in any way, but we simply do not see how a match up like this is fun. Our main force was out primarily during Friday-Sunday, after that.. It seemed a little redundant.

As a commander it is definitely not fun to lead people to and from one or two supply camps and towers consistently. So most of the guild’s taking the time to enjoy the Halloween events we missed out on this weekend.

If you see any one else from [EPIC] doing something ridiculous, please don’t hesitate to report them, or contact me in game, or on here.

Hello peoplies!

As a TCer here, I hardly think it would be appropriate to say SoR are unskilled, as a matter of fact, I feel most of them really know what they are doing. Where against BlackGate I could easily fool and play around as a mesmer with my enemies, SoR makes it very difficult and “detects” my little tricks and render them useless. We as TC managed to make 100.000 points against blackgate, I doubt we will reach that point against SoR although I am sure we will be trying.

Yesterdays Dawns battle was great! I really enjoyed myself and it is a great morale booster for the losing partys when you destroy a golem army. I hope SoR had fun too, even though they had to run through the courtyard of death

I am very curious what will happen when SoR meets BlackGate. It may be because of halloween but regardless as I see it now, they might actually win.

To all my TCies: Keep up the fight! I love you all.
To all the SoRies: It is nice fighting you, but can you please step into my feedback bubbles a bit more ? lol
To ET: I didnt really see many of you at all, but I really hope you at least got some fun in the match.

Ill be in the borderlands and the battleground trying to fight a bit. If you see a mesmer sylvari waving at you and putting down roast pigs, feel free to take a bit of food too =-)

Blessed love to you all!

Velona Flowerborn

TC player here. Had a blast manning an arrow cart at the top of the ramp in Dawn’s last night. I was LOL everytime SoR tried to come through the wall. That courtyard was a death trap and we held out for about an hour. I think we had at least 10 arrow carts, a couple of catas, and a few ballistas hitting that wall opening. Grats on the victory! It was a fun fight.

To the SoR group currently camping our spawn on the ET BG… do you really have fun doing this? Seriously?

Mixed group, not any one guild. 8-10, sometimes more. Just camping our spawn. How do you report this? There’s no option on the “report” menu for spawn camping.

They’re showing off all their skills they claim to have. That’s what spawn camping does.

Are they also camping the side exits? Let’s not get overly excited until they block off all exits on every map. Here is a good site that clearly illustrates the side exit I’m talking about.

http://www.fist-of-the-empire.com/GW2-WvW-Map.html

OldRodKS.9758:

To the SoR group currently camping our spawn on the ET BG… do you really have fun doing this? Seriously?

Mixed group, not any one guild. 8-10, sometimes more. Just camping our spawn. How do you report this? There’s no option on the “report” menu for spawn camping.

There is nothing to report here. It is not illegal to sit out side our camps. This is a war game. SoR won this war and the front line is on our camp.

Whoo. Took two towers, even got our spawn tower back. Good to see the Coast still fighting in the SoR Borderlands. (Commander Floxxx). Keep it up Toasters!

OldRodKS.9758:

To the SoR group currently camping our spawn on the ET BG… do you really have fun doing this? Seriously?

Mixed group, not any one guild. 8-10, sometimes more. Just camping our spawn. How do you report this? There’s no option on the “report” menu for spawn camping.

Yes, apperently they must think that spawn camping is fun, because they seem to keep going with it. Yesterday SoR even builded ballistas and catapults in front of our spawn, God knows why.

They don’t even consider camping right in front of our spawn as spawn camping; oddly enough.

And, no, you can’t report childish people for acting childish.

Tallis.5607:

OldRodKS.9758:

To the SoR group currently camping our spawn on the ET BG… do you really have fun doing this? Seriously?

Mixed group, not any one guild. 8-10, sometimes more. Just camping our spawn. How do you report this? There’s no option on the “report” menu for spawn camping.

Yes, apperently they must think that spawn camping is fun, because they seem to keep going with it. Yesterday SoR even builded ballistas and catapults in front of our spawn, God knows why.

They don’t even consider camping right in front of our spawn as spawn camping; oddly enough.

And, no, you can’t report childish people for acting childish.

It’s a pity you can’t build siege or have some other defences in spawn areas to help clean out “spawn campers”.

I’ve always believed spawn camping was dirty warfare. Especially when our forces have near completely over run every map. I’m sorry to Tarnished Coast & Eredon Terrace for this. I know it’s unfair and to be honest it’s no fun for anyone. As a [RUN] commander in SoR, I try to keep our forces away from spawn areas as much as possible. However, for those in TC & ET who spawn at their Citadel, there are many other alternatives to just walking out the portals straight to occupied camps and towers. I wish TC & ET the best of luck on their upcoming fights…

Spawn camping is lame BUT =P
If you kite enemies back to your invuln zone to get invuln while you try to kill them, your asking for it.
If you think North supply belongs to the defending borderland, your wrong, there are plenty of other exits, if the invaders wish to hold it to cut off supplies, its a completely reasonable tactic.

The first one is the one that kittens me off at the moment, it seems to be a very common tactics since people are learning about all kinds of corners and walls you can hug for invulnerability.
The 2nd one only holds slightly true since you don’t really need to cut off supply atm unless the defenders actually hold something. However I do agree setting up tons of siege pointing at the door is a bit nefarious, it is not where the defenders spawn, they spawn in a protected area with invulnerability with lots of paths to take to get out, if you choose to take the path with 20 ballistas pointing at it, I say it is your fault too for feeding the campers. Use your head and people skills, gather a group and take another route.
Last night TC definitely showed their teeth and they were sharp =P
I think TC would have fared much better if this was a three way match instead of the SoR vs TC match that it is.

Osirus Fox.6380:

I’ve always believed spawn camping was dirty warfare. Especially when our forces have near completely over run every map. I’m sorry to Tarnished Coast & Eredon Terrace for this. I know it’s unfair and to be honest it’s no fun for anyone. As a [RUN] commander in SoR, I try to keep our forces away from spawn areas as much as possible. However, for those in TC & ET who spawn at their Citadel, there are many other alternatives to just walking out the portals straight to occupied camps and towers. I wish TC & ET the best of luck on their upcoming fights…

I’ve been dolyak ganking for 2 days straight, loving it. But sadly you cannot avoid spawn campers when all you have is the citadel. Besides, I saw a lot of RUN members spawn camping as well, so don’t play that game.

I understand there are side exits, and I use them frequently. My point isn’t that I can’t get out of my spawn camp. My point is that we can’t go anywhere on the freakin’ map without getting roll-stomped by an SoR Thief/Mesmer/Spinning warrior zerg… at least let us leave our front gates before face-rolling us.

Also, why can’t we build siege equipment in our home spawn camp? What’s the reasoning behind that?

Because you can treb the nearest keep/tower walls from there, and invulnerable stuff shooting us is not fair.

Tallis.5607:

OldRodKS.9758:

To the SoR group currently camping our spawn on the ET BG… do you really have fun doing this? Seriously?

Mixed group, not any one guild. 8-10, sometimes more. Just camping our spawn. How do you report this? There’s no option on the “report” menu for spawn camping.

Yes, apperently they must think that spawn camping is fun, because they seem to keep going with it. Yesterday SoR even builded ballistas and catapults in front of our spawn, God knows why.

They don’t even consider camping right in front of our spawn as spawn camping; oddly enough.

And, no, you can’t report childish people for acting childish.

Considering I was there around that time.
SoR set catapults outside the SE gate of Lowland keep.
Then Ballista’s around the bridge to it, to keep TC at bay.

As for “Spawn Camping” TC could have went out the NE exit of the spawn, came up from around Bravost, and circled back to destroy all siege in the SE, or went and destroyed the SoR attacking the Northern gate.

Then again spawns we all know must have only 1 exit.

For TC, it’s looking like TC/HoD/CD matchup for us next. Somehow, we are moving up a rank to be the top 3rd tier server even though we are being beat pretty handily by SoR. Of course, HoD is fairing just as well at ET is currently, so it’ll be another 1v1 match between us and CD. If server strengths stay as they are, it’s looking like TC might be bouncing in between T3 and T2.

Props to SoR, you guys are tough. I hope that we can learn some valuable lessons from the strategies you all have used against us for our future matches. Good luck in T2, I’m pretty sure you’ll have a much bigger challenge there and I’m interested to see how you do.

ET, I hope you guys can get something going again, even if it’s in the lower tiers. I can imagine that losing a vast majority of your coverage and WvW population has made playing at these upper tiers to be less than enjoyable. Major props to those of you who are still on the field taking what you can.

Major props to those of you who are still on the field taking what you can.

Most definitely! Last night I actually saw a real live ET player for the first time in a couple days. He was killing the Skritt King for the skill point. So I helped him (I needed the point too). When we were done, we waved at each other and went on our merry ways

I have actually seen an entire zerg of ET in their home borderlands. These rare endangered species sightings should be treasured.

We (PiNK) have been trying to work with them as best we can. No truce is easy as there will always be people on either sides taking pot shots at each other. About the best we can do is hit whatever areas they aren’t so that we have more chances to split up SoR’s forces.

All of you people who think this is spawn camping CLEARLY have never played a PvP game.

Stop with the carebear madness. There are THREE exits from which you can leave your base. Also, you become INVULNERABLE at your spawn location. You might as well start reporting the entire server for winning the war, thus pushing the war front all the way to your home base.

TSL has continued fighting and have enjoyed this weeks battles. For those that are complaining about being spawn camped… deal with it. There are alternative methods to getting out of a spawn camp. If you’re just running out to the slaughter you only have yourself to blame. TSL has learned to adapt to get past their forces which allows us to bring the fight to them behind their spawn camp lines and we’ve had a great time doing it.

We’ve learned a lot once again this week with various tactics that the higher tier servers bring and look forward to using them in following weeks.

SoR, good fights. You’re one hell of a tough server and extremely well organized. TSL looks forward to fighting you again sometime down the road. Hopefully we’ll be able to give you more of a fight.