Guild Wars 2

The fight at bay on BG BL has been going for what seems like days. So much fun!

Tyvm BG for a great battle.

As I was typing this I went back to game and saw WE FINALLY TOOK THE KITTEN THING!! O.O!!!

That was an awesome fight! I made your pic! VNG Represent!!!

IoJ is still more than present imo. Don’t listen to CharliePrince. Remember, they took 2nd last week and SoR, who once led by 25k on the weekend, took 3rd. It’s always anyone’s game based on who shows up to play during the week. Finishing a research paper, but you’ll see me out there all week

Pvp.2758:

It’s impossible for SoR to win with BG fighting against them for 1st and IoJ fighting against them for 2nd. EB is always Red/Green, with an occasional Blue tower.

Problem solved, KNT, LOTD, THAI and some other guilds decided to fix this problem………..

I am thinking that this might be our last week together after so many weeks.

Right now Tarnished Coast has more points than Blackgate has in this tier. The cute thing about the possibility of IoJ dropping to T3 is that in the end wether JQ drops to T2 or BG remains might put SoR in the same situation as IoJ currently is.

Crystal Desert seems that it will break into T3 next week….after a few weeks it might be IoJ and SoR again in Tier 3….that is when SoR gets dropped into the tier.

Of course…I am sorry for appearing to be scary. I am just anticipating based on what I am seeing on http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA

Its a real curious thing to see a site like this.

I am not saying that the servers are downright great or downright horrible. The rankings are completely based on each week’s end score as a reflection of server strength rather than server skill…..seeing as how WvW appears to be based more on coverage more than anything else.

I have had good matches so far in WvW. Today started out depressing with us having 20 PP on the board and then slowly getting points. I enjoyed the Garrison Battles.

Well here at SoR win or lose, we know we spend 70% of the day with less people on then opposition. So win or lose, we are in it for the fights and fun. ^.^ (Since our in-ability to sleep drives us to stay up late, wake early, skip sleep, just for the fight and fun.)

Coldviper.6794:

Lulz, ND can’t take a keep without using a million golems. GJ bro’s. 15 vs 40 and you need 5 golems to do anything. lol

well…which ND? IOJ’s ND or SOR’s ND? that, either one who is not the “achieve nothing with 40 but 40+5 golems”, prolly would not like to be mistaken. XD

Flawed Victory.4321:

Coldviper.6794:

Lulz, ND can’t take a keep without using a million golems. GJ bro’s. 15 vs 40 and you need 5 golems to do anything. lol

well…which ND? IOJ’s ND or SOR’s ND? that, either one who is not the “achieve nothing with 40 but 40+5 golems”, prolly would not like to be mistaken. XD

I wouldn’t think SoR’s ND, considering we are likely to never have 40+ players in 1 map + people to run golems, during the times they are online, until we get some more EU/Oceanic’s on SoR.

IoJ Oceanic’s are defiantly representing tonight. Come on NA, ride our wave

Coldviper, I’m pretty sure Nd are quite capable of taking any tower with out golems lol they pretty much face roll anything….. As for the golems I made like 8 of them with some mates but didn’t have the ppl online to use them, cause of ioj’s lack of presence this week, hence ND and Hire, drgn coming to assist.

Congrats IoJ on taking all 3 borderlands and 75% of EB, where were those numbers on the weekend when we actually had people to play against you?

Wish our NA was as strong as our Oceanic on IoJ. Had outmanned in all three zones last night. At least I can roam relatively well as a Mesmer. Not quite as good as Thief, but close. Thank you Centaur Runes!

Peetee.9406:

Congrats IoJ on taking all 3 borderlands and 75% of EB, where were those numbers on the weekend when we actually had people to play against you?

BG had no Oceanic presence last night so they weren’t fighting any organized BG presence either. Hence why they were able to take all that stuff.

brogarn.8723:

Wish our NA was as strong as our Oceanic on IoJ. Had outmanned in all three zones last night. At least I can roam relatively well as a Mesmer. Not quite as good as Thief, but close. Thank you Centaur Runes!

Man, your Oceanic team is incredible. We had fought with uA/AVTR at our main inner gate in garrison for a good half hour and it looked as if we had the fight won, we pushed them out and sent everyone off to get supply to rebuild the gates.

No sooner than everyone leaves, ND is beating on our water gate and was in on our lord before anyone had returned with supply. I do not know if this was a coordinated attack or just a simple stroke of luck, but it caught us completely off guard.

Was definitely well played!

pot.6805:

Peetee.9406:

Congrats IoJ on taking all 3 borderlands and 75% of EB, where were those numbers on the weekend when we actually had people to play against you?

BG had no Oceanic presence last night so they weren’t fighting any organized BG presence either. Hence why they were able to take all that stuff.

I woke up at 7am to BG at +400 I don’t know what you’re talking about.

Wow what a great match we’re having this week! Last week BG was down 15k when the weekend ended now we are up nearly 25k! Pretty intense… As for TW we’ll take you up on your offer for GvG anyday. Whether it’s your primetime or our primetime, ICoa doesn’t back down from any sort of competition and we’d be up for it. Or even TID. Hmu in-game @ Hollywood Fiend and we can work out a time and a place. Good luck.

Ya was on SoR BL just a bit ago, was holding off IOJ pretty good until they did a golem rush with like 10 or so golems.
We tried to retake just a moment ago however when we got the door to 0 it became untargetable and was still there, moments later it was targetable at about 1% health, we knocked it down again yet… it was still there and untargetable.
Sent a bug report, first time I’ve ever seen that happen.

Alsonia.4753:

pot.6805:

Peetee.9406:

Congrats IoJ on taking all 3 borderlands and 75% of EB, where were those numbers on the weekend when we actually had people to play against you?

BG had no Oceanic presence last night so they weren’t fighting any organized BG presence either. Hence why they were able to take all that stuff.

I woke up at 7am to BG at +400 I don’t know what you’re talking about.

I saw a screenshot of IoJ putting up +500 2 hours ago. Did not that happen during Oceanic times?

I’m surprised no one is mentioning the little siege tower we had set up outside of QL on the EB for a good chunk of yesterday.

We had Blackgate try to zerg that location quite a bit. Also, mad props to that very persistent guardian from [LORE] on BG who must have come back something like 50 times trying to jump his way up and AOE our triple trebs.

Scores as of 5PM GMT

Mikitten058:

Well here at SoR win or lose, we know we spend 70% of the day with less people on then opposition. So win or lose, we are in it for the fights and fun. ^.^ (Since our in-ability to sleep drives us to stay up late, wake early, skip sleep, just for the fight and fun.)

I just quoted this because I liked it. This is kinda the mentality of our server, and thats why I love it.
We may never reach T1 but we have awesome commanders and lots of fun!!!!!!!

fivekiller.1432:

Pinkus.2860:

I fear that these Tiers are going to be set in stone for quite some time. Probably not the way Anet intended WvW to be but still fun all the same.

you may be right.

but if yak’s bend takes some time off in tier 3 or IOJ in this tier, all they need to do is close a 40 point gap for TC to switch out with IOJ. i could easily see TC gaining 20 more soon. I don’t so easily see IOJ losing 20 points but its possible.

that would be to SOR’s detriment though. TC has a mighty(population wise) NA zerg and very little coverage otherwise, much like SOR. SOR would have less opportunity to hold a dominant portion of the map in America time and there would be no IOJ to oppose Blackgate and hurt their score during the oceanic/asian/european times.

not to mention TC and IOJ are not interchangeable. in my personal subjective opinion from fighting both, IOJ has a huge skill/tactics advantage AND has a coverage advantage.

TC/BG/SOR would me much less interesting and fun than what we have now.
IOJ/Yaks/? would be much less fun for them in T3 as IOJ would dominate that bracket a lot harder than TC is.

Unless TC is a much different server then when we’ve faced them before it won’t be a detriment to SoR at all other then that it would turn it into a 1v1 and BG would have no one else to focus on except SoR.

I’m not trying to trash TC at all but when we’ve faced them historically their NA presence goes home once they start losing. We faced them 2 weeks in a row while fighting SoS at the same time and both weeks it was SoR vs SoS Mon-Fri. Maybe even Sun-Fri the second week.

Who knows though a lot could have changed on their server since then. It’s been almost a month.

I’d much prefer the current fights over BG/SoR/TC. IoJ keeps fighting to the end and so does SoR so it makes for some awesome 3 way fights all week long during prime time.

@IoJ

Thanks for the heart-pounding race to get the PoI/Vista from Veloka Slope. I wasn’t sure I would make it in time!

Dear BG and IoJ,

You’re colluding. We know. It’s hardly subtle. Not faulting you for it, I can understand the strategic value.

But do you have to do it in the jumping puzzle?

Yah we destroyed TC the last time we played them. Literally within 2 hours after reset they had packed it in for the week, I think we scored 515k that week.

For as much as I dislike playing against an opponent whose prime is different than mine, I would much rather face even competition than someone who we’d bury at the start and have nothing to do all week.

Looking back we only played them one week where we faced SoS at the same time. That weeked turned into a 1v1 against SoS. The second week was just us vs them and like peetee said they gave up fast.

If they make it into T2 lets hope they’ve picked up some new guilds or fire in their hearts.

That being said. If they do make it into T2 it would not be long. IoJ would destroy T3 and I don’t see TC putting up any kind of fight against SoR & BG.

I’d love to see IoJ WvW guilds move to SoR to fill much needed gaps for both servers but doesn’t sound like that will happen.

Either way coverage or not I am loving the prime time fights we have been having.

SleepsAtDay.1582:

Dear BG and IoJ,

You’re colluding. We know. It’s hardly subtle. Not faulting you for it, I can understand the strategic value.

But do you have to do it in the jumping puzzle?

Not true. ND/Hire has been taking Blackgate BL first and then heading to SoR. It has happened multiple times in their zerg rushes during the start of their primetime.

Peetee.9406:

Yah we destroyed TC the last time we played them. Literally within 2 hours after reset they had packed it in for the week, I think we scored 515k that week.

For as much as I dislike playing against an opponent whose prime is different than mine, I would much rather face even competition than someone who we’d bury at the start and have nothing to do all week.

=O

I’ve been dying to put in a frolf(frizbee golf fyi) course in Stonemist for, like, ever! Or at least a swirly slide from a treb platform down into a splash pool. Too much kitten shrapnel flying around right now for that. QQ

Good times.

Obsidian.1328:

Peetee.9406:

Yah we destroyed TC the last time we played them. Literally within 2 hours after reset they had packed it in for the week, I think we scored 515k that week.

For as much as I dislike playing against an opponent whose prime is different than mine, I would much rather face even competition than someone who we’d bury at the start and have nothing to do all week.

=O

I’ve been dying to put in a frolf(frizbee golf fyi) course in Stonemist for, like, ever! Or at least a swirly slide from a treb platform down into a splash pool. Too much kitten shrapnel flying around right now for that. QQ

Good times.

There would still be just as much shrapnel probably even more. No one have to defend against another server doing a back door attack so BG can focus more of their forces at one place.

Edit: We would probably get beat by BG even worse the more I think about it. Since no one except BG would have an off hours presence they would have 18 hours to get siege into keeps/towers to fully upgrade. Then it’s super easy for a few people to defend even a tower during prime time with a zerg that is free to move.

Right now with IoJ and BG taking turns sweeping the maps during off hours we go into prime time with towers freshly reset. Making it anyone’s game in attacks.

Peetee.9406:

Yah we destroyed TC the last time we played them. Literally within 2 hours after reset they had packed it in for the week, I think we scored 515k that week.

For as much as I dislike playing against an opponent whose prime is different than mine, I would much rather face even competition than someone who we’d bury at the start and have nothing to do all week.

Just an opinion and from personal observation that was about the time and shortly after SoR received a lot of transfers, and was during the Mad King event. TC is the unofficial role playing server and as such were really into that event :o. Our guild came from Dragonbrand along with a lot of others came from other servers that I know of. SoR if I recall right started out at T5/T4 and shot to T2 in a matter of weeks not months.

I could be wrong about this and don’t quote me or hold it against me after the few weeks of being dominated by SoS a lot of players jumped off our server. Since then we have lost more and TC has received quite a few transfers since then that I know of.

It would be an interesting battle if we were to fight again provided there was no event for all the RPs on TC to forget WvW over, coupled with the current scores. TC isnt really a bad server they have just a lot of casual WvWers and a big RP pop.

SleepsAtDay.1582:

Dear BG and IoJ,

You’re colluding. We know. It’s hardly subtle. Not faulting you for it, I can understand the strategic value.

But do you have to do it in the jumping puzzle?

How are we working together? We had IoJ spawn locked for a long kitten time today.

Alsonia.4753:

SleepsAtDay.1582:

Dear BG and IoJ,

You’re colluding. We know. It’s hardly subtle. Not faulting you for it, I can understand the strategic value.

But do you have to do it in the jumping puzzle?

How are we working together? We had IoJ spawn locked for a long kitten time today.

There have been instances where it appears like there is collusion. I’ll give actual examples from yesterday, but keep in mind I’m not actually saying these are instances of collaboration, but events that give the appearance.

One example from the EB was when we were hitting Golanta, it appeared that a small handful of IoJ were within spitting distance of BG, but more or less ignored each other.

or the fact that IoJ seems to like to harass us at SoR more than they do BG (alot of the time they focus on Durios and Umber, and seem to ignore venturing into Wildcreek.

We also drained SM completely of supply, but IoJ opted to swing around and hit Bravost.

These events, although not likely collaboration, but just IoJ trying to take second place from SoR do make it look like we’re being double teamed.

May I suggest IoJ, focus a bit more on the match leaders? It would close the gap they have on us and benefit both our servers. I know you want second place, as do we, but if we spend all our time battling each other like we do, BG just takes everything else and gains a massive lead.

SleepsAtDay.1582:

Dear BG and IoJ,

You’re colluding. We know. It’s hardly subtle. Not faulting you for it, I can understand the strategic value.

But do you have to do it in the jumping puzzle?

Bugger, it looks like the jig is up. You’ve caught us holding hands and spoon feeding each other ice cream.

Warlord.9074:

Peetee.9406:

Yah we destroyed TC the last time we played them. Literally within 2 hours after reset they had packed it in for the week, I think we scored 515k that week.

For as much as I dislike playing against an opponent whose prime is different than mine, I would much rather face even competition than someone who we’d bury at the start and have nothing to do all week.

Just an opinion and from personal observation that was about the time and shortly after SoR received a lot of transfers, and was during the Mad King event. TC is the unofficial role playing server and as such were really into that event :o. Our guild came from Dragonbrand along with a lot of others came from other servers that I know of. SoR if I recall right started out at T5/T4 and shot to T2 in a matter of weeks not months.

I could be wrong about this and don’t quote me or hold it against me after the few weeks of being dominated by SoS a lot of players jumped off our server. Since then we have lost more and TC has received quite a few transfers since then that I know of.

It would be an interesting battle if we were to fight again provided there was no event for all the RPs on TC to forget WvW over, coupled with the current scores. TC isnt really a bad server they have just a lot of casual WvWers and a big RP pop.

That was weeks after all the JQ transfers came to SoR. It was a T3 match. BG and SoS have both had victories similar against TC. Those victories were not during event weekends. You have seen how closely we can stay to these two servers despite having poor coverage. That speaks volumes for our peak time presence.
TC does not have a force that can contend with both BG and SoR during prime time and historically they have proven they do not fight once the server gets turned all one color. So after that first night where BG would turn it to a see of green TC would not show up the rest of the week.
Hopefully I am wrong, maybe TC is a much different server then they were 4 weeks ago.

As for the comments about SoR losing a lot of players after getting beat by SoS. You must be playing on a much different SoR server then I am. The one I play on never got “dominated” by SoS we lost to them but even SoS will tell you how good of fights they were and often talk about how they miss the fights against SoR now that they are in T1.

Also I’ve only seen us gain in numbers since we got to T2. Granted we have lost some people since the release of PS2 but all servers are dealing with that. We’ve gained a few guilds that gives a little better off peak coverage since we faced TC last but not nearly enough to compete with BG or any of the T1 servers yet.

I have nothing against TC they just quiet honestly aren’t a T2 server. They are a T3 server, they may make it into T2 because of IoJ steadily losing points each week but IoJ is a T2 server and if that happened they would be back into T2 very quickly.

Back to the topic at hand though.

Anyone have a score update? Mos is 5 hours old and has IoJ with 500ppt after night capping.

Orikx.9671:

after night capping.

No such thing as “night capping” in T2, only your lack of “coverage”.

SleepsAtDay.1582:

Dear BG and IoJ,

You’re colluding. We know. It’s hardly subtle. Not faulting you for it, I can understand the strategic value.

But do you have to do it in the jumping puzzle?

SOR decided to go head to head with BG this week. IOJ tries that from time to time and gets spanked, hard. So IOJ has been a bit shy to hit anything but RQ and Gol. So, SOR is tied up at certain times with BG unable to defend, imo that is why IOJ hits you instead of us. Also this week, BG has seemed to have excellent intel on troop moments, siege setups and potential targets from our large number of scouts that enjoy roaming. These scouts feed info to commanders that allow us to be present @ pending attacks, and set up siege ahead of time. Also VOIP on the public BG server allowed faster intel, and response times. Thats just my opinion.

Mif.3471:

Orikx.9671:

after night capping.

No such thing as “night capping” in T2, only your lack of “coverage”.

I very specifically spoke about our poor coverage in that post and how we don’t have the coverage to compete with T1 or BG yet.

Also night capping is still night capping regardless if it’s caused by lack of coverage or a ton of people staying up all night to cap everything. There is nothing negative about night capping. IoJ has a strong oceanic presence so they flip everything during the night. Thus “night capping” I never said it was bad. I asked for a score update because Mos is 5 hours old.

Score update for those who asked, 12pm PST

Usually dont see whats going on at the main fronts to much. Adrost, Hendrix and Myself are usually roaming behind enemy lines. Two things of note though yesterday in EB. The succesful eve defense of SM against IoJ and SoR was fantastic. The danelon dolyak defense to SM! Ridculy gained some major cool points with that move in my book. Good fun sir!

Some IoJ people can be so bad…

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Wish they would fix the invulnerable zone at the base of a the spawn point cliffs to stop people abusing it and the classic ALT + F4.

Scores @ 10PM GMT

Ascii.9726:

Some IoJ people can be so bad…

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Wish they would fix the invulnerable zone at the base of a the spawn point cliffs to stop people abusing it and the classic ALT + F4.

Scores @ 10PM GMT

I didn’t realize clones also got the foot prints from legendaries. That’s kind of cool. I always figured the foot prints would make the real memser stick out like a sore thumb.

Not that I will ever have a legendary on mine anyways.

Once again another fantastic week of battles so far. Had a good laugh on SoR borderlands last night when the IoJ and SoR zergs decided to make themselves present on the map. kitten really hit the fan bahaha

Ascii.9726:

Some IoJ people can be so bad…

[Moderated]

Wish they would fix the invulnerable zone at the base of a the spawn point cliffs to stop people abusing it and the classic ALT + F4.

Scores @ 10PM GMT

Just saw her guild name LoL
Hey look Ascii is [HERE]

Ya, didn’t see the first one though at the beginning, didnt realize she had the guild tags the whole time till I watched it again.

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