To be honest, I think our server needs to lose more brutally to get a wake up call. I imagine Eredon’s Terrace has some of the same problem, so I’ll touch on it for both of us cause I know some of us are getting sick of it.
This increasing amount of infighting/bickering of “What if we tried XYZ”, “What if we use ABC”. “We need more organization, we need better use of our commanders”, “more of this”, “more of that” and proceeding to list every possible reason for our losses EXCEPT the obvious, numbers and time zone coverage.
NEWSFLASH. If you took 30+ tier 1 players, with 5 of them being commanders in tier 1, the best of the best of their tier with most comprehensive siege placements, teamwork, and all that jazz and replaced 25 of our players and 5 of our commanders for either our server, OR Eredon’s Terrace.. what would happen?
Nothing. Literally, it would be almost no difference.
People need to come to grip the facts. We’re not losing to poor communication, we’re not losing to lack of high level strategy. We had both of these things in play up until about a week and a half ago at most. We’re losing to NUMBERS and COVERAGE. If you wanna match SF, you need more of that, or you could just wait for them to get out and hope that you get a server with less numbers and timezone coverage than they have in their place. I wanna be really clear, I don’t hate SF for it, if you got it flaunt it by all means. But for all of us bickering amongst ourselves, or for the occasional indignant response in the forums of people who think we’re disorganized and all that, not really. This is a sheer numbers game, and the inevitability produced by the difference in numbers and timezone attacks is the core of all problems here.
Now, do we have bad communication at the moment? Sure. Do we have a lack of commanders, and a lack of teamwork from commanders from different guilds? Sure. Would it make a difference at the moment? No. See that’s the problem, while having more of these would be great, the inevitability of losing whatever you cap in the night hours, and constantly fighting outnumbered has made all these a moot points We need enough numbers and enough coverage to make that work first. So for goodness sakes, especially all of us Ferguson’s Crossing players, stop pointing fingers, arguing over endless chases and realize the fact that unless you produce MORE NUMBERS, and MORE TIMEZONE COVERAGE, you won’t have a chance to get back to developing better teamwork and strategies, let alone put them into play.
Also for those wondering why so many commanders took a break in FC, what would you do when you have to put 8+ hours of gameplay in everyday to make any noticeable difference?
Let me also say there was a time when I know for a fact Ferguson’s Crossing yielded tier 7 numbers and would of been capable of handling its own in that tier, just some short months ago. This rating black hole that glicko2 creates is very real and not just some myth.
Now, does the situation suck? Yes. Let’s just deal with it and stop stressing out for a bit. The matchup has a server with tier 6 numbers and coverage paired up with two tier 8 levels, the result was inevitable, and on the Glicko2 argument side the rating system for tier 8 is completely broken and even a tier 1 server if it fell in would take a month to climb out, and that’s all there is to it. And with no visible fix in the near future, we might as well put up. You can wait and hope that we get a server with at least same time zone coverage if not similar numbers when SF moves up (No offense to SF, but their leads would be far less exaggerated without the night crew presence), transfer servers if you don’t like it, or have one of the WvW communities of either Ferguson or Eredon’s Terrace merge with the other to form a single, viable WvW combat force.
But as it stands, all this arguing about communication and strategy is useless. Let’s stop putting more heartache and stress into this than there needs to be.
Also, for people on Sorrow’s Furnace who might be bickering with each other and other server’s poking at them, zergy, uncoordinated tactics are the norm and very hard to prevent when you’re in a situation like there’s. Say SF moves up, and fights servers with numbers and coverage equal to theirs and loses, it would make clear to them the need for improvement, and they will go through that trouble to improve on their own inevitably. So let’s all stop trying to offer eachother “Pro tips” on how to WvW as well, cause at this point I think all of us know what we’re doing quite well. Any server will develop high tier strategy and communication in WvW when it becomes necessity (Assuming its possible, Ie. you’re up against numbers you have a chance against.) so just because SF plays like a mindless zerg against us doesn’t mean they’re going to be a bunch of helpless noobs the moment they face a server that can best them.
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