Guild Wars 2

Jedbacca.6297:

As for being bag dispensers, I heard I personally have a higher percentage of dropping Legendaries. I’m the big Charr warrior with a big hammer in front of the SF tags.

Jed youre back! Does this mean we get to hear another Jed song later?

Good fights this weekend, and a good handful of them during the week so far. Coverage is the name of the game in DubDub, we(SoR) knew that going in, well most of us did, we have some pretty large holes in coverage, so as per usual we play for the fights, and the overall score comes in down on the list of priorities. The weekend is where all the fun is for the most part anyway, each server has a better shot at round’ the clock coverage, the maps are multi colored all the time, thats when it really comes down to who has the better troop movement, response time, and overall ability to preform as a server wide, multi map unit. The extremely tight score at the end of the weekend was a large testament to each of the servers.

I have nothing bad to say about the match up this week at all! JQ is doing a great job putting up 24/7 coverage, and SoS is showing that they will never give up even if it’s just for second place! OF course I’d love to see SoS and SoR have a better cover of the day, but we deal with it and keep fighting. I look forward to seeing both servers again and hopefully having all the great fights I’ve had this week again.

I will say that I’ve noticed the lag to be a bit harsh this week as well as the culling, but we’ll never get rid of those problems.

Warlord.9074:

Barab.9016:

Warlord.9074:

me im not.9357:

As far as Im concerned—- its a shame one of these three servers will have to ever flip back to tier 2. I have huge respect for BG—- but SOR/SOS/JQ I think have all proven all they have to prove this match. Scores have been tight— and no one server is really outside of beatable this week. JQ has the advantage as the only server with solid 24/7 coverage—- and Im not knocking them for it—- but the fact that they can hold such a crucial advantage and for the scores to still be this close really says something for everyone. So from SOS to JQ and SOR—- good fights….. actually, Great Fights!. Thank you!.

My sole complaints—- culling AOE is being used by all 3 servers. I don’t know that Id call it a clever use of mechanics since we all know culling is busted, but I struggle calling it an exploit either since its being used so much by everyone these days. In any chase, it does feel a little cheap. I hope Anets AOE nerfs get here soon, and I really wish they would find a way to fix culling—- but I suppose those are complaints for another thread.

Again though, it was fun this week.

JQ is OP. A better matchup would be BG, SoR, SoS. JQ is just a little too piled on. I’m sorry for saying this in advance great job to JQ for the recruitment and this is only addressed to some JQ that have transfered there during off peak hours…Not the whole server… but I hope you enjoy PvDooring cuz thats all your going to be doing. If you find PvDoor fun more power to you. consider moving to another server when you get bored of fighting no one. But your welcome to do whatever you want just don’t expect fun battles when there is no one to fight. But maybe you like fighting no one so just do what you do. grats.

Sorry your upset but the WvW scores are out of any one individual’s control. I wouldnt get all bitter and mad because it’s a 24/7 7 day server match not guild vs guild or individual vs individuals. Ive been looking at SoS and SoR’s population each day and night randomly and both servers are always full. Why SoS and SoR doesnt have full maps 24/7 is something only that server’s leaders can answer because the population is logged in 24/7.

Anyway the week isnt over yet but I wanted to say thanks to all the fighters from all servers for this week’s match. All three servers are worthy of t1 and are champions in their own right.

XD I think they are doing PVE thats why. I’m not going to get mad or bitter, I will just quit. Not going to fight overwhelming numbers, and I think a lot of other people will just hang up the towel as well. We don’t care about winning or losing, we just like to have fun 10 vs 90 isn’t any fun in that.

That’s too bad you would consider quitting. WvW is a zerg fest no doubt. As someone who runs solo or in a group in WvW I know feeling of constantly being out numbered. Servers in t1 have 40 person groups constantly roaming the maps.

I always read about the months in t2 SoR fighting thick and thin vs the full coverage of SoS and BG’s zergs consistently ending in second place. There was no quit then so why now ? This is one of the closes t1 WvW score matches we’ve seen and one of the best I just dont get all the anger in not finishing number one let alone number two. Winning in WvW is a fool’s illusion. What matters is enjoying the fight and playing with friends.

Eurlin.4256:

I have nothing bad to say about the match up this week at all! JQ is doing a great job putting up 24/7 coverage, and SoS is showing that they will never give up even if it’s just for second place! OF course I’d love to see SoS and SoR have a better cover of the day, but we deal with it and keep fighting. I look forward to seeing both servers again and hopefully having all the great fights I’ve had this week again.

I will say that I’ve noticed the lag to be a bit harsh this week as well as the culling, but we’ll never get rid of those problems.

I didn’t have lag or culling problems this weekend, it really started last night, man it was bad, more than a few times I found myself in the center of a PRX zerg ball on SoR BL, only to go"OMG OMG WHERE DID THEY COME FROM!!!" and then promptly die to 74 different combo fields, all while laughing.

Pretty funny moment in SoS borderlands this morning.

Group of SoS jumped off of the cliff and lost ~50% of their health from fall damage where we just aoed them for some easy kills.

Funniest part was the one guy standing at the top that didn’t jump, I like to think he was standing there saying “see I told you it was a bad idea to jump”

Barab.9016:

Warlord.9074:

Barab.9016:

Warlord.9074:

me im not.9357:

As far as Im concerned—- its a shame one of these three servers will have to ever flip back to tier 2. I have huge respect for BG—- but SOR/SOS/JQ I think have all proven all they have to prove this match. Scores have been tight— and no one server is really outside of beatable this week. JQ has the advantage as the only server with solid 24/7 coverage—- and Im not knocking them for it—- but the fact that they can hold such a crucial advantage and for the scores to still be this close really says something for everyone. So from SOS to JQ and SOR—- good fights….. actually, Great Fights!. Thank you!.

My sole complaints—- culling AOE is being used by all 3 servers. I don’t know that Id call it a clever use of mechanics since we all know culling is busted, but I struggle calling it an exploit either since its being used so much by everyone these days. In any chase, it does feel a little cheap. I hope Anets AOE nerfs get here soon, and I really wish they would find a way to fix culling—- but I suppose those are complaints for another thread.

Again though, it was fun this week.

JQ is OP. A better matchup would be BG, SoR, SoS. JQ is just a little too piled on. I’m sorry for saying this in advance great job to JQ for the recruitment and this is only addressed to some JQ that have transfered there during off peak hours…Not the whole server… but I hope you enjoy PvDooring cuz thats all your going to be doing. If you find PvDoor fun more power to you. consider moving to another server when you get bored of fighting no one. But your welcome to do whatever you want just don’t expect fun battles when there is no one to fight. But maybe you like fighting no one so just do what you do. grats.

Sorry your upset but the WvW scores are out of any one individual’s control. I wouldnt get all bitter and mad because it’s a 24/7 7 day server match not guild vs guild or individual vs individuals. Ive been looking at SoS and SoR’s population each day and night randomly and both servers are always full. Why SoS and SoR doesnt have full maps 24/7 is something only that server’s leaders can answer because the population is logged in 24/7.

Anyway the week isnt over yet but I wanted to say thanks to all the fighters from all servers for this week’s match. All three servers are worthy of t1 and are champions in their own right.

XD I think they are doing PVE thats why. I’m not going to get mad or bitter, I will just quit. Not going to fight overwhelming numbers, and I think a lot of other people will just hang up the towel as well. We don’t care about winning or losing, we just like to have fun 10 vs 90 isn’t any fun in that.

That’s too bad you would consider quitting. WvW is a zerg fest no doubt. As someone who runs solo or in a group in WvW I know feeling of constantly being out numbered. Servers in t1 have 40 person groups constantly roaming the maps.

I always read about the months in t2 SoR fighting thick and thin vs the full coverage of SoS and BG’s zergs consistently ending in second place. There was no quit then so why now ? This is one of the closes t1 WvW score matches we’ve seen and one of the best I just dont get all the anger in not finishing number one let alone number two. Winning in WvW is a fool’s illusion. What matters is enjoying the fight and playing with friends.

I see what you’re saying, and I don’t believe that you’re taking into full context what Warlord is saying. SoR did not put forth it’s full effort during the week this match, we’re exhausted man, 15 weeks of being outnumbered over the last few match ups has taken a toll! I suspect with the slightly lower turnout during the week this match, we’ll see a resurgance of people playing during the week, next go around. We need rest! we’re not machines(well except maybe some of the [choo] guys, I think some of them may be cyborgs).

Cheers and good fighting!

To clarify: the 2 weeks before this were pretty easy goings for SoR, might have played a factor in our lower than normal numbers during this week.

Ok first of all, JQ is not a 24/7 server, we are a 24/5 server.

You want to beat us? get a 30k lead in the first 2 days, we always give every server a head start. Take your early lead while we have a few beers with Siegerazer.

Also if you had more coverage than us, u would be calling it skill.
Anyways, When you face the only server who held T1 for nearly 20 weeks, which is almost the entirety of the game, you are going to expect some beat downs.
With all that said, both SoS and Sor put up some good fights and hope to see you guys in a week or 2.

nice fight in blue keep in eb an hour ago, so many bags =) only took jq/sos entire force 2+ hours to take it! Gj spawning our front gate sos and giving jq the keep.

Anyone here who wants to duel me?

dwahvel.7356:

nice fight in blue keep in eb an hour ago, so many bags =) only took jq/sos entire force 2+ hours to take it! Gj spawning our front gate sos and giving jq the keep.

I managed to get 50 bags in about 5minutes, I think Amarathy got more.

You think we were trying to take it? lol :P

Besides look at the end result what colour is Valley now? :P Red.

Updayedd.4638:

Anyone here who wants to duel me?

+10 points tick? Super sad face

Sifu.6527:

Updayedd.4638:

Anyone here who wants to duel me?

+10 points tick? Super sad face

+5* soon to be 0

Sifu.6527:

Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t SoR PvDooring all the way up to T1 when BG was no longer in T2?

Reality:

BG PvDoored against SoR uncontested for 2 months straight and still couldn’t get enough points to get to T1.

SoR spent two weeks actually having oceanic coverage to PvDoor with before moving up to T1.

JQ currently PvDoors certain time slots.

Edit: Nobody should get up tight about that, I am not saying anything is wrong with it… just that this is the reality of it.

Xaaz.8472:

Back to actual WvW related topics – I would love to see the new SoR fight BG. I believe SoR has the upper hand now. It’s too bad that the 4 top servers probably won’t play each other for a few weeks unless they finally decide to reveal this mythical new math they came up with.

I would love that as well. I think the two servers are more equal now off NA prime time.

With all the guilds that we have gotten before the free xfers were stopped, we SoR thought we had better coverage. This match up kinda put a damper on the excitement of having decent coverage throughout the day. Which I’m sure after seeing the coverage JQ has, kinda put us in our place.

Coverage is a big part of WvW. Organization is also important. Getting one of our [Choo] commanders to take a PuG group into SM and take it was impressive. When the coverage is close to the same, skill comes into play.

I’m glad we had a match up like this to test the coverage we got with the free xfers. I’m sure we will meet you two again. So watch out for the Train!

me im not.9357:

I think we can all guess which builds are going to see some changes…. Infact— there are 3 that are pretty broken in culling zergs in particular that are likely see the hit, and I think we can all guess which 3.

I know what classes are the most effective in that situation, but I am curious as to what you think. For example, I see newbs crying about bunker d/d eles on the boards because they see them dancing around and taking a beating, not realizing they aren’t the class pwning their face off. Please don’t tell me you are one of those.

Topix.6974:

With all the guilds that we have gotten before the free xfers were stopped, we SoR thought we had better coverage. This match up kinda put a damper on the excitement of having decent coverage throughout the day. Which I’m sure after seeing the coverage JQ has, kinda put us in our place.

Coverage is a big part of WvW. Organization is also important. Getting one of our [Choo] commanders to take a PuG group into SM and take it was impressive. When the coverage is close to the same, skill comes into play.

I’m glad we had a match up like this to test the coverage we got with the free xfers. I’m sure we will meet you two again. So watch out for the Train!

Quite frankly if anyone thought we had enough coverage to win T1 they weren’t paying attention to what was actually happening in T1.
JQ got more transfers by a lot then SoR or any other server. SoS already had exceptional coverage. We got enough transfers to put us on par with BG maybe close to SoS coverage wise.

I always thought we had enough coverage to be competitive in T1(which we showed). I didn’t expect us to have the coverage to beat JQ because they are going to be a power house for a long time with the transfers they got.

Just because we don’t have the coverage to win doesn’t mean we should just give up though. We never have before I don’t know why we would choose to now.

covenn.7165:

Sifu.6527:

Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t SoR PvDooring all the way up to T1 when BG was no longer in T2?

Reality:

BG PvDoored against SoR uncontested for 2 months straight and still couldn’t get enough points to get to T1.

SoR spent two weeks actually having oceanic coverage to PvDoor with before moving up to T1.

JQ currently PvDoors certain time slots.

Edit: Nobody should get up tight about that, I am not saying anything is wrong with it… just that this is the reality of it.

That isn’t reality at all. Were you even a part of those matchups? IoJ was a part of those matchups for like 7 weeks and they had even better Oceanic coverage then BG so BG “uncontested” is a fabrication and revisionist history. Also if you realized how the ratings in t2 were and how the glicko worked you’d realize why it took BG awhile to move into T1. BG did it the proper way against 2 alive servers that were close in rating over a period of 2 months. We didn’t have the advantage of absorbing a t1 server and then leeching 260 glicko off of them over a period of 3 weeks. Luckily Anet reset the ratings after they saw how that kitten went down.

Meurto.8520:

Thork.7250:

Hey all,

As many have already stated throughout this thread; GREAT FIGHTS SO FAR!!!! In honor of some of the greatest WvW I have ever experienced (been playing since BWE1), I made a quick video showing some of the highlights my Guild and I experienced in EB over the weekend. Shows a lot of the main organized WvW guilds (FoE, PRX, Choo, ext…) who were playing in EB this weekend clashing together in huge super organized fights!!!

We won some, we lost some, but one thing’s for sure, the level of competition and more importantly the fun, has increased dramatically with this new reset! Enjoy…

This is Tier 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CcxKcYoXgM&feature=youtu.be

Keep up the good fights; this one’s going to come down to wire for sure!

/Salute to all involved,

~Thork
[FoE] Guild XO
www.FistoftheEmpire.com

I was tagging a long with PRX and the fights at speldan and the dredge caves were awesome! I was the giant norn warrior with the TSFR tag and noticed I was phasing in and out quite often. It really provides some perspective as to how culling impacts the other side. Great video.

Always interesting to see the fight from the other side isn’t it? Still having a BLAST every night fighting you guys! 31 more hours of WvW epicness left, see you on the battle field!

/Salute

Thork
[FoE] Guild XO
www.FistoftheEmpire.com

Being on SoR I would like for us to just go back to being a server that I could actualy get into wvw when I have time to play (weekdays 9-12 est)

bucthree.7301:

Jedbacca.6297:

As for being bag dispensers, I heard I personally have a higher percentage of dropping Legendaries. I’m the big Charr warrior with a big hammer in front of the SF tags.

Jed youre back! Does this mean we get to hear another Jed song later?

Let me think up another one. Vihar is pretty good with em’ too

Orikx.9671:

Quite frankly if anyone thought we had enough coverage to win T1 they weren’t paying attention to what was actually happening in T1.

This.

I’m sure the ex-T1 SOR (ex-SBI, ex-JQ) fully grasped the concept that “full coverage” means a gigantic kittenton of coverage, but many players … shrug.

Regardless, optimism hits reality.

SOR still has top-tier NA coverage with “good” coverage during other times.

Now, about those kittening bullkitten queues. God kittening kitten I haven’t been able to get into WvW for the past week because I don’t have 3 hours to sit in a kitten queue without ADHD’ing and playing something else. FEEL THE RAGE OF A THOUSAND QUEUED SUNS.

Score Update incomming

EasymodeX.4062:

Now, about those kittening bullkitten queues. God kittening kitten I haven’t been able to get into WvW for the past week because I don’t have 3 hours to sit in a kitten queue without ADHD’ing and playing something else. FEEL THE RAGE OF A THOUSAND QUEUED SUNS.

Try entering the queue from an outdoor map. NA primetime on JQ I never spent more than 10 minutes in queue any night this week around 6:00 pm Central to get into EB. My guildies joined from LA and were there for over an hour. They changed maps, re-entered the queue from malchor’s leap and were in within 15 minutes.

Soloing Hills Keep North Gate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL6ZAGfQ9pc

EasymodeX.4062:

me im not.9357:

My sole complaints—- culling AOE is being used by all 3 servers. I don’t know that Id call it a clever use of mechanics since we all know culling is busted, but I struggle calling it an exploit either since its being used so much by everyone these days. In any chase, it does feel a little cheap.

http://www.sirlin.net/articles/playing-to-win-part-1.html

Shrug.

Edit:

Insert random sidenote: “zergballing” is generally countered by uncapped AOE effects, whether the classic arrow cart spam (which doesn’t work in the open field), or via specialized WvW builds like Glamour Mesmers or other uncapped AOE effects.

Lulz, what was up with that article?? It pretty much condones winning at all costs, even by cheating. By that logic we should get rid of all referee’s in all sports and just have it be a free-for-all. :/ If you were being sarcastic then I’ll ‘lol,’ but I couldn’t tell :P

EasymodeX.4062:

Now, about those kittening bullkitten queues. God kittening kitten I haven’t been able to get into WvW for the past week because I don’t have 3 hours to sit in a kitten queue without ADHD’ing and playing something else. FEEL THE RAGE OF A THOUSAND QUEUED SUNS.

Ouch. Has it been that way all week? The map population cap reduction seems to have hit certain servers pretty hard. I play later NA than a lot of you (8ish pm to 1am PST) but I haven’t had to deal with queues at all (on Blackgate), although I don’t think our earlier queues have been too bad either. Definitely not 3 hours. We were even able to call in another guild to our BL last night for some support for a bit.

Hopefully we get some answers on this map population cap so we can understand what’s been going on and if things will be going back to normal sometime soon.

Frankly all this talk about weekends being the end all be all of wvw is bullkitten. Weekends invite more casual pugs to play than normal, making queueing rough and preventing guilds from moving across borders to ones that need organization. Point is, weekends have their fair share of problems, especially for an overpopulated server like JQ.

Everyone has their prime time during the weekdays when their coverage is good. Man up, take your losses during your downtime (like JQ has done for 18 weeks or so before we got better coverage), and fight like hell when you can. I can only imagine the kittening from SoS and SoR if they had been in t1 against HoD. You guys really have no idea.

I wouldn’t worry about it, the cries of “only the weekend matters” are usually from people who can’t accept that WvW is a 7 day long contest, not a 2 day long.

Thor.1756:

Frankly all this talk about weekends being the end all be all of wvw is bullkitten. Weekends invite more casual pugs to play than normal, making queueing rough and preventing guilds from moving across borders to ones that need organization. Point is, weekends have their fair share of problems, especially for an overpopulated server like JQ.

Everyone has their prime time during the weekdays when their coverage is good. Man up, take your losses during your downtime (like JQ has done for 18 weeks or so before we got better coverage), and fight like hell when you can. I can only imagine the kittening from SoS and SoR if they had been in t1 against HoD. You guys really have no idea.

Uh the weekend is by and far the best times for WvW, all three server’s pug come out and kick butt, the fights were better for everyone(aside from the queue bugs), each server fights better, and has more even footing on round the clock coverage. The absolute best WvW I have played was this last weekend, you can see each server felt the same exact way earlier in the thread as well, it was downright epic. Coverage is kind during the week for sure, and JQ seems to have it in spades. But the most even, most fun, most epic fights are on the weekend.

pot.6805:

I wouldn’t worry about it, the cries of “only the weekend matters” are usually from people who can’t accept that WvW is a 7 day long contest, not a 2 day long.

No one said “only the weekend matters”, everyone knows the match is 7 days long, the victor has the most points at the end of the week. People seem to be pointing out the best of WvW matches are on the weekend, which is true.

Obsidian.1328:

EasymodeX.4062:

me im not.9357:

My sole complaints—- culling AOE is being used by all 3 servers. I don’t know that Id call it a clever use of mechanics since we all know culling is busted, but I struggle calling it an exploit either since its being used so much by everyone these days. In any chase, it does feel a little cheap.

http://www.sirlin.net/articles/playing-to-win-part-1.html

Shrug.

Edit:

Insert random sidenote: “zergballing” is generally countered by uncapped AOE effects, whether the classic arrow cart spam (which doesn’t work in the open field), or via specialized WvW builds like Glamour Mesmers or other uncapped AOE effects.

Lulz, what was up with that article?? It pretty much condones winning at all costs, even by cheating. By that logic we should get rid of all referee’s in all sports and just have it be a free-for-all. :/ If you were being sarcastic then I’ll ‘lol,’ but I couldn’t tell :P

You missed an important detail. The article says that you should use any tournament-legal move to win. Cheating in the form of hacks or kicking other players in the shins is obviously not legal in tournaments, nor is ignoring the referees/rules and having a free for all.

That’s one of the most important articles (if not the most important article) ever written about competing in games, please don’t dismiss it so lightly.

Thundar.3910:

pot.6805:

I wouldn’t worry about it, the cries of “only the weekend matters” are usually from people who can’t accept that WvW is a 7 day long contest, not a 2 day long.

No one said “only the weekend matters”, everyone knows the match is 7 days long, the victor has the most points at the end of the week. People seem to be pointing out the best of WvW matches are on the weekend, which is true.

What they were saying was that the weekends should be given more weight because its fairer. And I was pointing out that they are not necessarily fairer because weekends introduce many more casuals than normal, and create difficult queues for stacked servers. I know not only JQ suffers from long queues on the weekends, which create serious organization difficulties.

I would argue prime times for each server is just as fair, if not more so, because shorter queues allow for better coordination and for organized guilds to get full numbers into the right maps. I know for a fact SoS and SoR are fully capable of producing full queues during NA prime time, so the PPT differentials during those times are going to be reflective of server skill and tenacity, not merely coverage.

I have no idea why people are congratulating JQ’s guild recuitment. SoS tried to make a new recuitment thread like JQ’s one and a few rotten JQers jumped in and turned the entire thread into a big “JQ has no people, we’re 24/7 outmanned, SoS has 24/7 coverage, etc” spreading FUD and insults to the point the forum admins had to close the thread because it was completely derailed.

I found SoS has better commanders in general and a few more solid guilds, but JQ has definitely 10x the better coverage. I was on JQ last week and there’s queues everywhere 24/7. EB is usually a solid 2 hours wait.

Thundar.3910:

pot.6805:

I wouldn’t worry about it, the cries of “only the weekend matters” are usually from people who can’t accept that WvW is a 7 day long contest, not a 2 day long.

No one said “only the weekend matters”, everyone knows the match is 7 days long, the victor has the most points at the end of the week. People seem to be pointing out the best of WvW matches are on the weekend, which is true.

Actually someone did, just a few posts above yours. They claimed the weekend proves who the better server is.

so no wvw patch till march, and the things they are putting in arent really adding anything other then ranks, and rank abilities, which will get more people to q(more then likely) and get more people to complain about waiting. wheee.

Im not finding wvw much fun anymore seeing as i have to wait nearly an hour every night if i want to play. i actually found myself playing……. the sims last night faints

It’s only not fair when they are not winning

Thor.1756:

Thundar.3910:

pot.6805:

I wouldn’t worry about it, the cries of “only the weekend matters” are usually from people who can’t accept that WvW is a 7 day long contest, not a 2 day long.

No one said “only the weekend matters”, everyone knows the match is 7 days long, the victor has the most points at the end of the week. People seem to be pointing out the best of WvW matches are on the weekend, which is true.

What they were saying was that the weekends should be given more weight because its fairer. And I was pointing out that they are not necessarily fairer because weekends introduce many more casuals than normal, and create difficult queues for stacked servers. I know not only JQ suffers from long queues on the weekends, which create serious organization difficulties.

I would argue prime times for each server is just as fair, if not more so, because shorter queues allow for better coordination and for organized guilds to get full numbers into the right maps. I know for a fact SoS and SoR are fully capable of producing full queues during NA prime time, so the PPT differentials during those times are going to be reflective of server skill and tenacity, not merely coverage.

There would be no need to argue, I would agree with that for sure, NA primetime is pretty awesome in this matchup, lots of give and take. Sadly I don’t get to play that much during those times!

As far as your first point about casual players messing with the queues and organization of stacked servers, that would be the price we pay for stacking servers, SoR had those growing pains after “The Great SBI Migration of 2013”.

Not sure why JQ is all defensive over their coverage, they recruited, got people on to their server and play a week long match, and are currently winning. I dont think many are faulting them for that, SoS did the same thing as did we at SoR. Each server seems to have their gaps in coverage, JQ just has less/shorter gaps.

People, including myself emphasize the weekend more, because its simply more fun, and can devote more time to playing.

pot.6805:

Thundar.3910:

pot.6805:

I wouldn’t worry about it, the cries of “only the weekend matters” are usually from people who can’t accept that WvW is a 7 day long contest, not a 2 day long.

No one said “only the weekend matters”, everyone knows the match is 7 days long, the victor has the most points at the end of the week. People seem to be pointing out the best of WvW matches are on the weekend, which is true.

Actually someone did, just a few posts above yours. They claimed the weekend proves who the better server is.

If we base an entire servers attitude on the post of one person, every single server is the worst server of all time.

Envi.2460:

so no wvw patch till march, and the things they are putting in arent really adding anything other then ranks, and rank abilities, which will get more people to q(more then likely) and get more people to complain about waiting. wheee.

Im not finding wvw much fun anymore seeing as i have to wait nearly an hour every night if i want to play. i actually found myself playing……. the sims last night faints

Saints Row 2 on the second monitor while queue’d, my Steve Buscemi looking character fights and causes crime in a unitard.

Thundar.3910:

pot.6805:

Thundar.3910:

pot.6805:

I wouldn’t worry about it, the cries of “only the weekend matters” are usually from people who can’t accept that WvW is a 7 day long contest, not a 2 day long.

No one said “only the weekend matters”, everyone knows the match is 7 days long, the victor has the most points at the end of the week. People seem to be pointing out the best of WvW matches are on the weekend, which is true.

Actually someone did, just a few posts above yours. They claimed the weekend proves who the better server is.

If we base an entire servers attitude on the post of one person, every single server is the worst server of all time.

Never based any servers attitude off a post, I was talking about individuals, I even said “people”, specifically in my original post who claimed the weekend is what matters and shows who the better server is. You see people say it all the time in different match up threads. Yeah it sucks to have a lead on the weekend and end up coming in third at the end of the week, it happens to every server at some point in time. I don’t recall you making any of those types of claims so my post would not be referring to you.

pot.6805:

That isn’t reality at all. Were you even a part of those matchups?

Yes I was. I simply meant uncontested by SoR. Sorry, I thought it was obvious.

Edit: Actually I blatantly stated it (to quote myself)

BG PvDoored against SoR uncontested

I dont have the luxury of having 2 monitors, so i just switch off and do something else.. i hate pve so that isnt going to entertain me while i wait for anywhere from 5 mins to an hour… a timer on estimated bg entrance would be so nice.. just an estimate. would be amazing.

Jahn.7019:

Thor.1756:

Frankly all this talk about weekends being the end all be all of wvw is bullkitten. Weekends invite more casual pugs to play than normal, making queueing rough and preventing guilds from moving across b
orders to ones that need organization. Point is, weekends have their fair share of problems, especially for an overpopulated server like JQ. 

Everyone has their prime time during the weekdays when their coverage is good. Man up, take your losses during your downtime (like JQ has done for 18 weeks or so before we got better coverage), and fight like hell when you can. I can only imagine the kittening from SoS and SoR if they had been in t1 against HoD. You guys really have no idea.

You do realize that some of SoS is that very HoD crew(and they fully admitted how stacked their server was and broke it up) and the SoR people consists of quite a few SBI and couple JQ guilds who also were there fighting the old HoD.

So in fact, it is you who has no idea what you are talking about. Except for the fact that you admit you have an overpopulated server. At least you are admitting it now.

Your words make no sense. I completely agree with Thor. Weekends are by no means representative of our server. The vast majority of people that were on the borderlands are pugs and the big “main” wvw servers were only able to field a fraction of their numbers. So yeah. If you think fighting JQ’s unorganized bandwagon pugs during the weekends is “Fair” and representative of our true strength, you’re gonna have a bad time. Yeah we have coverage, but that’s a huge factor of being in Tier 1 – being able to stay competitive all week. People should’ve realized it by now and started working on strategies (such as shifts) instead of sitting in LA and complaining about it on the forums. We’ve had huge coverage issues before and have been through some rough times during the past 12 weeks against SoS but the reason we’ve stayed in T1 through the gaps is because we kept fighting through it all. Through the culling, through the double team, through the coverage gaps. Jade Quarry doesn’t hang the towel just because we’re not 1st.

am i the only one who is noticing people from JQ being defensive about their coverage? its nothing to be ashamed of or anything.

Understand what people are saying is the weekends are the best fights cause they are the most even, as in have the same amount of people. thats why i believe people are saying that. you think other servers are able to get all their wvw guilds in? Nope. but we have all bls full thats why it is more “even” which i agree with.

Please! Please! This is supposed to be a happy occasion! Let’s not bicker and argue about who queued who. We are here today to witness the union of three young servers in the joyful bond of the holy combat. Unfortunately, one of them, SoR, has just fallen to his death.

Bless this thy holy hand grenade.

well this WAS a good thread, starting to go downhill…

Let’s all go get drunk and have fun instead of forum posting!

Forestgreen.7981:

I have no idea why people are congratulating JQ’s guild recuitment. SoS tried to make a new recuitment thread like JQ’s one and a few rotten JQers jumped in and turned the entire thread into a big “JQ has no people, we’re 24/7 outmanned, SoS has 24/7 coverage, etc” spreading FUD and insults to the point the forum admins had to close the thread because it was completely derailed.

I found SoS has better commanders in general and a few more solid guilds, but JQ has definitely 10x the better coverage. I was on JQ last week and there’s queues everywhere 24/7. EB is usually a solid 2 hours wait.

You do know that it got closed because you had like five recruitment threads open at once lol.